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Necesary Reforms

Mudcat said:
The thread started out well enough, in my honest opinion. And then icebear went into incoherent conspiracy theorist mode.
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Did you happen to see the other two threads recently started by the same poster, both of which went to AAH almost immediately?
 
Mudcat said:
I did not.
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Except for the indicators obvious in the use of the terms Obungacare and Demokkkrats, you missed nothing important except as demonstraters of intellectual level and competence.
Thus my little reading list.
 
fuelair said:
Except for the indicators obvious in the use of the terms Obungacare and Demokkkrats, you missed nothing important except as demonstraters of intellectual level and competence.
Thus my little reading list.
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I just read through his threads now. If he doesn't dial it back I see a date with a ban hammer in his immediate future.
 
fuelair said:
icebear: nothing you have written here or elsewhere that I have seen makes you a scholar. More importantly, everything you have written here shows with blinding clarity that you have not even a passing acquaintance with the book God and Gold
http://www.amazon.com/God-Gold-Brit...8&qid=1380466097&sr=1-1&keywords=God+and+Gold
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I did look at the Amazon page. Doesn't look terribly interesting and a passing acquaintance will suffice.

The problem with our present money system, aside from fractional reserve banking, is the idea of governments at all levels needing to borrow money into circulation. The power to coin money is supposed to reside in goverrnment; that power was usurped by banks in 1913.

The three US presidents who ever figured that one out and acted as if they were prepared to act on that knowledge were Lincoln, McKinley, and JFK, i.e. the three who were assassinated.

Hitler also figured that one out; pulling Germany out of the Anglo-American / international monetary system was the one thing the German Nazis ever did right.
 
icebear said:
Oh, MY, we've really been drinking more than our fair share of the Kool-Ade here, haven't we?
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Uh, no. When you play with the big boys here that means you bring your A-game. Obama is quite likeable:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/20/rel6b-1.pdf
(Is likeable: 79%)

Anticipating the obvious complaint that CNN is "liberally biased" and their polls don't count:

"A whopping 67 percent of Americans give the president high marks for being easygoing and likable, which is up slightly from Jan. 2013 after his successful re-election bid."
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/05/poll-obama-bleeding-independents-rapid-clip
 
icebear said:
I did look at the Amazon page. Doesn't look terribly interesting and a passing acquaintance will suffice.

The problem with our present money system, aside from fractional reserve banking, is the idea of governments at all levels needing to borrow money into circulation. The power to coin money is supposed to reside in goverrnment; that power was usurped by banks in 1913.

The three US presidents who ever figured that one out and acted as if they were prepared to act on that knowledge were Lincoln, McKinley, and JFK, i.e. the three who were assassinated.

Hitler also figured that one out; pulling Germany out of the Anglo-American / international monetary system was the one thing the German Nazis ever did right.
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So, in addition to your accusation of the Obama-Libya conspiracy you also believe Presidents get killed if they happen to come to the wrong conclusion on monetary policy (and those three Presidents were wrong on monetary policy).
 
A portion of those who oppose the ACA do so because it doesn't go far enough.

That being said the OP lost me at "obunga care." I was behind a car earlier that was covered in bumper stickers, to the point of being detrimental to rear vision, all whining about the ACA and president Obama in General. I wanted to rear end him but remembered that when wrestling with pigs one only gets dirty and the pig enjoys it.
 
The right wing echo chamber must be an awesome place to hang out. Probably has a ball pit or something.
 
I remember this diatribe about what a lousy President Obama was; the laundry list of offenses and obvious failings.

And then he got re-elected.

Give it a rest. He's the duly elected President of the United States. How about a little support?
 
marplots said:
Give it a rest. He's the duly elected President of the United States. How about a little support?
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Support might be asking a bit to much. There will always be people who think it's pretty much a crime to be president while Democrat or Republican, but they should be able to at least accept that it's true.
 
Biscuit said:
A portion of those who oppose the ACA do so because it doesn't go far enough.

That being said the OP lost me at "obunga care." I was behind a car earlier that was covered in bumper stickers, to the point of being detrimental to rear vision, all whining about the ACA and president Obama in General. I wanted to rear end him but remembered that when wrestling with pigs one only gets dirty and the pig enjoys it.
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wrestling in the mud with pigs one only.......
 
elbe said:
Support might be asking a bit to much. There will always be people who think it's pretty much a crime to be president while Democrat or Republican, but they should be able to at least accept that it's true.
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You may be right in thinking that conservatives and pubbies should be looking for silver linings in the calamity. I actually can think of one such: With a total incompetent in the white house, there would appear to be a fairly good chance of seeing Serbian tanks roll back into Kosovo within the next couple of years. THAT would be a $1000 ticket and a class A celebration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEKcCVgKEiQ
 
Aber said:
Evidence?
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None - already found out (he?) does not want to do actual reading as I led (him?) to the water of Braudel's books on the history of what he is trying to write about in his limited (based on examples from his posts) knowledge of the field he wishes us to follow his lead in AND he has not read and has no interest in reading God and Gold which is actually and directly about the points of his screed - and why they are what I like to call wrong, wrong and wrong. Note for him or others, all of these books on commerce and the functions of nations/nation-states and monetary and related policy are long and full of detail and reward the reader with some ideas of what the field entails. I do not have the time to educate someone who does not want to bother picking up the background material on their own. Not my problem.
 
icebear said:
You may be right in thinking that conservatives and pubbies should be looking for silver linings in the calamity. I actually can think of one such: With a total incompetent in the white house, there would appear to be a fairly good chance of seeing Serbian tanks roll back into Kosovo within the next couple of years. THAT would be a $1000 ticket and a class A celebration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEKcCVgKEiQ
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You are just all over the board, jumping from one random topic to another, aren't you? I wonder if that's because you don't actually know any more about any of these topics than your quick little rants.
 
Brass said:
Education needs reform. Not by politicians and not by "education scholars" but by people who are actually in the classroom weighing in heavily on the matter; the teachers.
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Leave the politicians out of it, I definitely agree. But I put a lot more stock in education scholars - people who have studied the issues and are able to see the big picture - than teachers. Unless things have drastically changed since I graduated high school, there are way too many teachers who have no business being in charge of watching grass grow, let alone being in a position of influence over educational policy.
 
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