Teens trash house while owner gone.

Yes, politicians should be held publicly responsible for their actions.
 
Segnosaur said:
Since when did $100 become the threshold for allowable damage? Can I go throw a brick through your window if I can buy a new pane of glass for less than $100?
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Since when did I say that $100 was "the threshold for allowable damage?" And do you think someone should go to prison for throwing a brick through a window?

I don't defend the kids' actions one tiny little bit. They were wrong and there should be punishment. Prison, however, isn't the answer and it shouldn't require even half a working brain to see that.

Anyway, I'm surprised it took as long as it did for someone to completely distort what I said. Congrats!

ETA: Also, asking about what I would want for someone who broke my window (or, perhaps, who did $20,000 damage to my house) is classic rhetorical BS. Victims don't get to decide punishment in our justice system, and that's as it should be.
 
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As much as I would love to see these kids punished, I cringe at the idea of prison, aka crime school. The likelihood of them coming out of prison as reformed citizens, equipt to become productive members of society is pretty low. However, a nice long sentence of house arrest, ankle monitors and all would do. No exceptions either, like mommy and daddy already bought the tickets for their yearly cruise to the Mediterranean region. School and home, that's it.
 
I agree the best punishment is community service. You trashed someone's house... spend some time untrashing something on your own time. They might learn something, being in the shoes of someone who has to clean up someone else's mess.

They'll learn the wrong things in prison.
 
The page finally loaded today. The pictures of spoiled drugged up kids looks pretty much like every other party of spoiled drugged up white teens.

I blame their parents and society.
 
dudalb said:
Don't jail the kids;but make them give a couple of weekends of really unplesent community service. Every community has lots of nasty, though not dangerous jobs that need doing.....
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This has been my preference for years. In cities dealing with blight and vandalism and crime, just take all of the drug convictions, taggers, etc, and instead of putting them in jail, take them out to repaint over graffiti, pick up trash, hold signs at troublesome intersections so people can cross. Why not? Stuff that needs doing gets done, the prisons keep room for really bad people, and petty crimes don't do unpunished.

Ah, but that's not tough enough on crime, I suppose...
 
Unabogie said:
This has been my preference for years. In cities dealing with blight and vandalism and crime, just take all of the drug convictions, taggers, etc, and instead of putting them in jail, take them out to repaint over graffiti, pick up trash, hold signs at troublesome intersections so people can cross. Why not? Stuff that needs doing gets done, the prisons keep room for really bad people, and petty crimes don't do unpunished.

Ah, but that's not tough enough on crime, I suppose...
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I am a tough on crime kind of person but there has to be a fitting punishment. Violent crimes against a person deserves a long, hard sentence. What these kids did, as bratty, self entitled, thoughtless as their acts were, it was devious, not criminally violent. Throwing them in prison might make us all happy knowing that they will wake up every day and regret those actions but what good will come out of it at the end? It just makes it that much more likely that they will be harder criminals when they come out.

Unfortunately for them, with the helicopter parents that a lot of them seem to have, no punishment; fitting as your suggestions are or prison, will override their parents need to make victims out of them.
 
That may explain why it wouldn't load. So now I have a virus?

That's just great
 
I had problems loading the page and then it loaded. I didn't get any virus hit either.

The problem loading the page made me think maybe the kids' parents forced Holloway to take it down. Either that or one of the brats hacked it! :cool:
 
WildCat said:
It loads fine for me now too, and no virus warning. Weird.
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I'd guess someone close to them also got the virus warning and the webmaster fixed whatever was wrong.

These kids need to do months of community service, cleaning up roadways, parks, public areas in the town. A few weeks won't be enough to reinforce their understanding that what they did was way beyond wrong. This was someone's home, not an abandoned construction project. Also make them give up their phones and computer privileges so they can't bitch about how much they hate what they're doing. This is an extreme example of peer pressure and entitlement. Maybe they should be forced to give up some physical item that's important to them so they further understand how it impacted the family.
 
KatieG said:
I'd guess someone close to them also got the virus warning and the webmaster fixed whatever was wrong.

These kids need to do months of community service, cleaning up roadways, parks, public areas in the town. A few weeks won't be enough to reinforce their understanding that what they did was way beyond wrong. This was someone's home, not an abandoned construction project. Also make them give up their phones and computer privileges so they can't bitch about how much they hate what they're doing. This is an extreme example of peer pressure and entitlement. Maybe they should be forced to give up some physical item that's important to them so they further understand how it impacted the family.
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I agree on your idea of a sentence. But make it hurt a little. Every afternoon after school for two hours. No football practice, no meeting with Skip and Muffie on the quad or whatever it is they do for leisure time there. Lose some of your extracurricular privileges for a while AND do some good in the community.

But I'd make part of the sentence that they keep their mobile devices and internet privileges, and that if anyone says one damned word about the community service or the sentence, that person gets 30 more days added. Let them learn some self control and that being a citizen of a community is not just about rights but responsibilities.
 
I'm liking the creative consequence ideas, and without need of suggesting they rot in prison, either :P
 
calebprime said:
Teens trash house while owner gone! Doo dah, doo dah.
Barf in sink and pee on lawn! Oh the doo dah day.
Gonna drink all night!
Gonna drink all day!
Spend my money on jack n' kush
Something, something something [rhymes with "day"]
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Plot twist. Parents hitting back claiming house was already in a state of disrepair and effectively abandoned. In foreclosure, owing over one meeeellion dollars.

So it was really the banks house. And we all hate the banks. So all ok. Right?
 
Sounds like someone is getting their cues from Wellston First National Bank. :)

Ranb
 
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