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What book is everyone writing right now?

I can't test this guy's command because I don't have WP anymore but

In the Keystrokes tab of the Keyboard editor, press Ctrl+W and insert character 4,56.

He also says: In the Keystrokes tab of the Keyboard editor, press Ctrl+W and insert character 4,56.

Here's another.

I can never figure these instructions out without playing around with them but you should be able to.


Thanks, I got there earlier. WordPerfect doesn't seem to be a fan of the ellipsis - even as a help topic, the only reference is to shape drawing! However, it's there in the character set, which is accessed by Ctrl-W.

Once I'd found it, it's actually a better-looking character than the one Word uses. Better spaced. But it makes you work to find it, it doesn't auto-correct to it.

Rolfe.
 
One of the biggest concerns I have is exactly what you're talking about Rolfe;

I think getting someone else to thoroughly edit your work is pretty important, but when they're working for you rather than a publisher, surely they're going to have a sort of notion in their head of not upsetting their client, and therefore won't do a decent job.


Well, he's suggested so little, I think he must actually think it's OK. I'm on page 62 (of 140) and only two alterations haven't been typographic things.

No doubt it could be bettered. However, I think James (pro writer) was on a different wavelength from me. I got the feeling he wanted it changed to a style he would have used, and I'm not him. I remember when I gave the first pages of my PhD thesis to my supervisor, he started going over it, then stopped and handed it back to me saying, all I'm doing is changing your writing style to my writing style, this is pointless, just write the thing. (I'm not convinced he ever read it, in the end.)

One of the features of my book is that I lapse into informal language now and again, usually to interject my own commentary on what I'm describing. It actually saves space - you can make some points much more parsimoniously like that. The majority of people who have read the book have responded positively to that. The law professor called these passages "bon-bons", and said they lightened up the experience of reading the very dense argument. My friend who read it said she liked them, then when she was told she had been a guinea-pig, the only person unfamiliar with the issues to have read it, she became very insistent that these passages must be retained - all with no prompting from me.

James wanted them all out. No exceptions. They interfered with the exposition, for him. Well, after that I asked everyone who had read it - about seven in total. One other person said on balance he'd take these passages out, but it wasn't something he felt strongly about. The others were all strongly in favour. So basically they're staying. It would have been different if everyone or even most people had been negative, but in that situation sometimes you just have to say, this is who I am and this is how I am telling you this story.

The editor (whose name I don't know) didn't mention this at all. The edited manuscript is really bare compared to the sample pages they give you to show you what sort of things they might do. He has suggested the occasional re-wording, but very few. He's verging on not supplying value for money, to be honest. So rather than second-guess the entire thought process, I think I'll just assume that his little compliment with smilie-face was genuine.

I guess there are swings and roundabouts to all this. Yes it would be good to have a hands-on editor contributing more to the presentation. On the other hand, this way gives enough input to know it's not a complete horror, while avoiding conflicts and arguments.

I'll never sell what James has sold, because I don't have Hamish Hamilton and the Edinburgh literati pushing it all over the bloody landscape full-time. Or Alex Salmond naming another book by the same author as his all-time favourite (bet he's miffed about the new one, serve him right). But if I can get a bit of momentum going, I'll be satisfied. Mostly, there are some particular lawyers who need to read it, even if they have to be kidnapped and forced to turn the pages.

Rolfe.
 
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OK, got through it. I thought it would take me days to do this stage, but not so. (Still past my bed-time though.)

The editor suggested numbering all the figures like in a text-book and I think he's right so I have to do that which is a somewhat bigger job but still no biggie. Then another check and we're off.

Caustic Logic, come in Caustic Logic? Four figures still to deliver here....

One nice little touch. There is a point in the book which is the money-shot. Just at that precise spot, Mr. Editor noted "Fascinating" and put a little smilie in :) . That's nice.

Rolfe.
 
I finally have something to update.

It's been a pretty rough year for me, and I've struggled to find the motivation to write, which is frustrating as I have only three chapters to go in my final major rewrite. The film industry is dead this year; I've had less than 60 days paid work since Spartacus finished up last October. Luckily I saved a lot during the years on that show, or I'd be pretty screwed right now!

But winter is finally nearing its end (winter in Auckland is always particularly depressing because it's so grey and dreary and rainy) and the film work is beginning to pick up with lots of indicators that it's about to get REALLY busy.

So I've got back into writing a bit, and just about finished one of those three last pesky chapters. I've found I write much more easily if I go away from home, so on wet days I find a quiet cafe and on nice days I go sit in a park. It seems to make a big difference.

More importantly though, I just finished reading Tiktaalik's book Raising Rook and wanted to say thank you for an enjoyable read. I am not usually a fan of fantasy that links into, or is set in, the modern day, preferring those set in completely separate fictional worlds, but despite this I really enjoyed the story, and am looking forward to continuing it!

So well done Tiktaalik.

Hope my fellow writers are doing better than I've been doing!
 
Well, thanks, Gumboot! I look forward to reading yours! Three chapters is not so much; you'll be doing the wrap-up now, so it sounds like the end is tantalizingly close! Keep on truckin'...

'Raising Rook' was a bit of an experiment in creating an anti-hero, or a protagonist who is not completely likable. A lot of people want their protagonists to be likable folk, understandably, so there's been some backlash on that point. Still, it was an interesting exercise for me. The second book is coming along slowly since I'm currently working on revising an old mystery, but I've got an endpoint in mind and the first couple of chapters in draft.

Unfortunately, there's this thing called work that I have to return to on a regular basis. What a drag that it gets in the way of real life...
 
This is NOT the final cover, it is a rough mock-up of the lettering by me, on the cover image the guys over in community persuaded me to commission. I'd be interested in feedback.

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Rolfe.
 
It's comforting to see a thread I started almost a year and a half ago still has legs.

Congrats to Rolfe for tackling a nonfiction work. They're a lot more hassle than fiction, where you're free to twist circumstances to fit your desired outcome (or is that official government reports?) :D

Not too much on my book-writing projects, but I --HAVE-- completed yet another screenplay first draft called Relative Evil. Logline: smugglers bite off more than they can chew when they hijack a recreational vehicle driven by two charming but ruthless serial killers.

The serial killers are the Good Guys.

Beanbag
 
I like the plane. I'm sure your cover designer will work on the text proportions & gutter; I think it's a good start. What I like is, besides being easy to read, it tells you exactly what the book is about with a single picture. People who are interested in disintegrating planes will pick it up & read the blurb (or do a 'Look Inside') & get the rest of it.
 
Congrats to Rolfe for tackling a nonfiction work. They're a lot more hassle than fiction, where you're free to twist circumstances to fit your desired outcome (or is that official government reports?) :D


I don't really agree. I can't write fiction to save my life. With non-fiction, you only need to find out the facts, assimilate them, put them together in a way that's both illuminating and original, and write it down.

One thing does strike me. Nearly all creative fiction writers I know don't know where their books are going when they begin. They say they write to find out what happens. This is incomprehensible to me.

I had my entire book in my head before I started. Order of presentation of material, chapters, the lot. It pretty much popped up and said, here I am, you have to write me. Oh and you have to do it fast. It took me ten weeks just to get it through the keyboard.

Rolfe.
 
One thing does strike me. Nearly all creative fiction writers I know don't know where their books are going when they begin. They say they write to find out what happens. This is incomprehensible to me.


It's often said there's two types of fiction writers; gardeners and architects. Most writers, I think, are a little of both.
 
One thing does strike me. Nearly all creative fiction writers I know don't know where their books are going when they begin. They say they write to find out what happens. This is incomprehensible to me.
Rolfe.

I certainly don't work this way. I need to have an end in mind, most important of anything. Then I choose a starting point, and figure out how everyone is going to get from Point A to Point B. I've certainly read some books that didn't appear to have any idea where they were going, though!
 
I started my duology with a definite goal in mind and so far, I'm really happy with the direction the work is taking. If there wasn't a direction, I think the books would be good, but not more than a fun YA fantasy. With the direction I am striving for, the books are meaningful and wonderful at the same time.

As for non-fiction, I have an idea in mind, "The Real History of Nursing." But I have two fiction books to finish first. :)
 
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It's taken from a computer animation. The entire plane is imaged, and looks right. I may have cropped it badly. Hopefully the proper cover designer will get it right.

Rolfe.
It's one of those"it looks wrong" things, but I can't say why; like the comp-gen TV explosions. Anyway the cover looks good, striking.
I like the plane. I'm sure your cover designer will work on the text proportions & gutter; I think it's a good start. What I like is, besides being easy to read, it tells you exactly what the book is about with a single picture. People who are interested in disintegrating planes will pick it up & read the blurb (or do a 'Look Inside') & get the rest of it.

Judging a book by it's cover? :)
 
Thanks for that, Catsmate. I've had a draft cover back from the publisher - they seem to want to use the whole plane. It looks quite nice, except they've lost the question mark in the title. Easily fixed, I imagine.

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What do y'all think?

Rolfe.
 
The question mark is essential. I am not, not, NOT, NOT declaring that this monumental foul-up can be adequately explained by stupidity. That is precisely the point.

Rolfe.
 

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