New TWA Flight 800 film coming out

[Jetblast]

Does it ever occur to you to cite you claims? Just asking.

It's on the ARAP TWA 800 site. You can't post hot links here right?

 

[beachnut]

It would make sense that the missile suffered damage upon impacting the 747 and leaked some PETN. But let's do those exhaust tests just to make sure.

All you are really saying here is you don't have any credible explanation for it.


Investigators found the Angle Of Attack Sensor left data on the Flight Data Recorder showing perfect evidence for a blast passing across it from the underbelly proximity detonation direction. The Angle Of Attack Sensor is like a weather vein on a barn. It actually looks like one. It is designed to have airflow pass over it so it can inform the flight computer which way the air is passing over the fuselage in order to control flight. The data on the FDR showed the sensor did a quick shift in perfect conformity with a blast passing across it from the same direction as an explosion under the forward of the aircraft. Then it returned to normal. When approached with this officials said the severing of the FDR wires from the cockpit when the nose fell off corrupted the data.

Yup.

The AOA? Where is it mounted?

Can you show in the RADAR data where the MACH 4 stuff is? Did you get the raw RADAR data? No? Why not? Have you checked the bs you have posted? Got any original sources?

 

[LSSBB]

It would make sense that the missile suffered damage upon impacting the 747 and leaked some PETN. But let's do those exhaust tests just to make sure.

All you are really saying here is you don't have any credible explanation for it.


Investigators found the Angle Of Attack Sensor left data on the Flight Data Recorder showing perfect evidence for a blast passing across it from the underbelly proximity detonation direction. The Angle Of Attack Sensor is like a weather vein on a barn. It actually looks like one. It is designed to have airflow pass over it so it can inform the flight computer which way the air is passing over the fuselage in order to control flight. The data on the FDR showed the sensor did a quick shift in perfect conformity with a blast passing across it from the same direction as an explosion under the forward of the aircraft. Then it returned to normal. When approached with this officials said the severing of the FDR wires from the cockpit when the nose fell off corrupted the data.

Yup.

Magic warhead passes into plane, leaks, then explodes. Interesting.

What was the name of the sub captain?

 

[beachnut]

It's on the ARAP TWA 800 site. You can't post hot links here right?

You can't hot link photos, you can post the url for your web site of woo

ARAP? A woo web site? lol, you found nonsense, believe nonsense, and repeat hearsay without checking the facts.

How does the AOA fit? Oh, it is a gish gallop... wow

whack a mole woo

enough junk to gish gallop for years... http://twa800.com/

 

[kookbreaker]

It's on the ARAP TWA 800 site. You can't post hot links here right?

You can post links. You can even quote selections of them. Where did you get the idea that you could not do that?

What you cannot do is quote an entire page from that site, but you should not have to.

Even better would be to get the source they are using.

Its really not too much to ask of you.

 

[matt.tansy]

Explaining magic with more magic.

 

[beachnut]

You can post links. You can even quote selections of them. Where did you get the idea that you could not do that?

What you cannot do is quote an entire page from that site, but you should not have to.

Even better would be to get the source they are using.

Its really not too much to ask of you.

jetblast was hot linking photos

http://twa800.com/

The web site is full of bs about 800.

 

[kookbreaker]

jetblast was hot linking photos

If you can't make a cite without using a hotlinked image it is time to re-assess your debating methods.

 

[jhunter1163]

So PETN was found on seats. PETN that somehow survived the combustion of thousands of degrees Celsius of exhaust plume even though PETN is the most combustible ingredient in rocket propellant. On seats that somehow remained unscorched by thousands of degrees Celsius of exhaust plume. By an exhaust plume that didn't leave any other pre-combustion or post-combustion residue anywhere else on the aircraft. By a missile with a warhead that sent fragments through the fuselage without actually touching it, fragments that only hit the passengers and not the seats, floor, overhead bins, or the passengers' carry-on luggage. It is obvious the culprits came from somewhere in Scotland

I was thinking more along the lines of Brigadoon.

 

[plague311]

jetblast was hot linking photos

http://twa800.com/

The web site is full of bs about 800.

As a person who does some side work maintaining and setting up websites. That thing is a trainwreck. I feel sorry for whoever claims creation. I was going to look for the author, but my eyes were so offended I just fled.

 

[catsmate]

It would make sense that the missile suffered damage upon impacting the 747 and leaked some PETN. But let's do those exhaust tests just to make sure.

All you are really saying here is you don't have any credible explanation for it.

No the presence of a trace of PETN has been adequately explained. You simple don't like the explanation.

Investigators found the Angle Of Attack Sensor left data on the Flight Data Recorder showing perfect evidence for a blast passing across it from the underbelly proximity detonation direction.

Citation required.

Magic warhead passes into plane, leaks, then explodes. Interesting.

What was the name of the sub captain?

Yeah.............

As a person who does some side work maintaining and setting up websites. That thing is a trainwreck. I feel sorry for whoever claims creation. I was going to look for the author, but my eyes were so offended I just fled.

It's pretty awful isn't it.

 

[matt.tansy]

But it is a valuable repository of documents you can't find anywhere else. If you want a real abortion try using the NTSB's search website.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I've been wondering what the name of that sub captain was.

 

[plague311]

But it is a valuable repository of documents you can't find anywhere else. If you want a real abortion try using the NTSB's search website.

Absolutely, I like the concept, but it's very hard to navigate when everything is crunched together at the bottom.

LoL I did try the NTSB's when I first starting reading this (that is when this thread was started, to be honest I knew nothing about twa 800 before this thread, and a slow day at work), and I got out fast. Anyone able to direct me to some "highlights" on that website I can dig through?

I didn't mean to offend, I read my post and realized I came off like an ******* LoL.

 

[DGM]

I'm shocked!!!!!

Jetblast has been asked over and over for evidence that his claims are based in fact.

He fails this over and over and accuses us of being dishonest when we won't take the word of his friends uncles brother.

Jetblast Wake-up.

You're not even close to as smart as you think your sources are. (I would narrow that down but the MA forbids it).

 

[beachnut]

NTSB report.
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/summary/AAR0003.html
And from the near Area 51, we have...
NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION - China Lake, CA; report
http://twa800.com/exhibits/missileanalysis.pdf
Plus why the CWT was explosive due to vapors.
http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/pdf/ar98-26.pdf
The Final TWA 800 report found at the NTSB site.
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2000/AAR0003.pdf


Why can't fantasy conspiracy theory presenters google real stuff? Is a google filter set to dumbed down fantasy?

 

[matt.tansy]

Anyone able to direct me to some "highlights" on that website I can dig through?

The letter from the two women who claimed to have seen a US warship off Fire Island a few hours before the crash: http://twa800.com/pages/perry.htm

I am having difficulty in finding CDR Donaldson's follow-up correspondence with them where he asks the obvious question: what was the number on the ship?

In the letter she said: "The ship was so big and close, that you couldn't capture the entire profile in one glance."

Let me ask you something: how many degrees would you say that something is so big you couldn't see the entire profile in one glance? 20 degrees (equal to the width of your spread out hand held at arms length)? 40 degrees? 60? 90? 120? You know what I'm getting at.

Photo from Jane's Fighting Ships the women said matched the look of the one they saw: http://twa800.com/images/ship.jpg


PDFs of the eyewitnesses' FBI interviews: http://twa800.com/witnesscd/witnesscd.htm

 

[beachnut]

The letter from the two women who claimed to have seen a US warship off Fire Island a few hours before the crash: http://twa800.com/pages/perry.htm

I am having difficulty in finding CDR Donaldson's follow-up correspondence with them where he asks the obvious question: what was the number on the ship?

In the letter she said: "The ship was so big and close, that you couldn't capture the entire profile in one glance."

...
Photo from Jane's Fighting Ships the women said matched the look of the one they saw: http://twa800.com/images/ship.jpg


PDFs of the eyewitnesses' FBI interviews: http://twa800.com/witnesscd/witnesscd.htm

They are all describing a CWT explosion and 747 breakup. It was a big mistake to let the FBI panic and make up the missile stuff. No sonic booms...

If it is true the FBI thought the NTSB was indecisive, it is due to the way the NTSB investigators are trained with witness statements.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2013/06/22/latest-twa-800-conspiracy-theory-how-likely-is-it/

 

[Andy_Ross]

It would make sense that the missile suffered damage upon impacting the 747 and leaked some PETN. But let's do those exhaust tests just to make sure.

So what does this mean? You think the missile entered the aircraft cabin before exploding?

How did it 'leak PETN'?

Do you think there is some kind of tank holding PETN?

WHat do you think happens to PETN when it gets hot?

WHat do you know about AA Missiles again?

 

[LSSBB]

The letter from the two women who claimed to have seen a US warship off Fire Island a few hours before the crash: http://twa800.com/pages/perry.htm

I am having difficulty in finding CDR Donaldson's follow-up correspondence with them where he asks the obvious question: what was the number on the ship?

In the letter she said: "The ship was so big and close, that you couldn't capture the entire profile in one glance."

Let me ask you something: how many degrees would you say that something is so big you couldn't see the entire profile in one glance? 20 degrees (equal to the width of your spread out hand held at arms length)? 40 degrees? 60? 90? 120? You know what I'm getting at.

Photo from Jane's Fighting Ships the women said matched the look of the one they saw: http://twa800.com/images/ship.jpg


PDFs of the eyewitnesses' FBI interviews: http://twa800.com/witnesscd/witnesscd.htm

Spru can (Spruance class destroyer). No Standard Missile. Would be a Sea Sparrow or remote possibility of Rolling Airframe Missile if it is the platform.