Merged Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 4

[Gilbert Syndrome]

You do realize that I am about as qualified as Bill Munns when it comes to Bigfoot science. What qualifies him as an expert?

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Repeatable as in one can get their own nude models, build same platforms, instruct models to stand on platforms while then dropping them to film the shockwave of the soft tissue in slow motion. easy peasy

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You do realize that I am about as qualified as Bill Munns when it comes to Bigfoot science. What qualifies him as an expert?

Ah, so he's not qualified? What qualifications would he require? Looks like he did a heck of a job establishing a test, building test stands, obtaining test subjects, and also filming the results of said test.

That speaks to alot IMO. I mean I've never had a guitar lesson in my life but I have sat in for bands in the past. Being self taught, is that really a negative?

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

Great that, mate, but how does that prove Patty is a real Bigfoot instead of just a fella in monkey threads?

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

There's a difference between learning Smoke On The Water on an acoustic and establishing a valid case for Bigfoot being real.

 

[GT/CS]

I read the entire thread. Perhaps it would be easier if you would quote the posts you wish to discuss. I'm sure that would be acceptable and save lots of back and forth.

You read the entire thread and you don't know who NorthernLights is. That is very interesting.

I told you which post to go to, could you not find it?

You're either a liar or a troll, or both, either way you're now on ignore.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Great that, mate, but how does that prove Patty is a real Bigfoot instead of just a fella in monkey threads?

I'm glad you asked. The study of the shockwaves similarity thru the soft tissue demonstrates a real living creature.

Of course prostetic breasts of the day that could have been used by Patterson to construct a suit were also tested. The results were very different. The movement was almost "0"

 

[eerok]

See post #670 Munns has created repeatable tests with repeatable results that match the film subject.

Like I said, hot air and bloviation. Repeat it, and it's just more hot air and bloviation. Science that's faked for whatever reason is called pseudoscience.

Do you really think that this is objective evidence?

I've read all the excuses why bigfoot is impossible to find. He's magical. He's interdimensional. He's just smarter than us. Whatever. You can believe that tripe if you want, but the salient fact is that there's still no bigfoot.

Munns changes nothing. The PGF is a joke. I laughed the first time I saw it, and that's the typical reaction among people I know. Good joke. Ha ha.

I guess you just want to believe bigfoot is real for some reason, but I honestly don't get it.

I don't mean to deride you or your opinions, I just want to clue you in that you need to take it to a whole other level if you expect to be taken seriously here.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

What movement, are you suggesting Patty's breasts jiggle in the PGF? That's a bold statement, I don't see squat(ch).

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You read the entire thread and you don't know who NorthernLights is. That is very interesting.

I told you which post to go to, could you not find it?

I cannot read minds. This thread is full of posts, if you have one to discuss in particular, which one?

Yes, I do not know and am not the member "Northernlights" If that is interesting then great.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Like I said, hot air and bloviation. Repeat it, and it's just more hot air and bloviation. Science that's faked for whatever reason is called pseudoscience.

Do you really think that this is objective evidence?

I've read all the excuses why bigfoot is impossible to find. He's magical. He's interdimensional. He's just smarter than us. Whatever. You can believe that tripe if you want, but the salient fact is that there's still no bigfoot.

Munns changes nothing. The PGF is a joke. I laughed the first time I saw it, and that's the typical reaction among people I know. Good joke. Ha ha.

I guess you just want to believe bigfoot is real for some reason, but I honestly don't get it.

I don't mean to deride you or your opinions, I just want to clue you in that you need to take it to a whole other level if you expect to be taken seriously here.

To deny without investigation is not wisdom. As to be taken seriously here....I have other more pressing things to worry about. As I said before I say what I mean, the truth. How you take it is entirely up to you.

You're convinced of your beliefs, that's great. Doubts are pesky things.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

What movement, are you suggesting Patty's breasts jiggle in the PGF? That's a bold statement, I don't see squat(ch).

I'm sorry, if you're watching the video, I can't see it for you.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

You and Northern Lights should hook-up, Chris. Maybe you could point him in the direction of a real-life Wolf expert.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

I guess it's tit for tat then, Chris, 'cos I can't make you see the diaper. The big $h!tty diaper that is the PGF.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

You read the entire thread and you don't know who NorthernLights is. That is very interesting.

I told you which post to go to, could you not find it?

You're either a liar or a troll, or both, either way you're now on ignore.

Thanks for your kind words. If this is the best you have to offer about the P/G film, I don't think you added much to the pot.

 

[RayG]

I know the sasquatch exists because I've been witness to a few.

But without further proof you may be suffering from schizophrenia for all we know.

If you saw one would you still think they're a myth, hoax or delusion?

Verification shouldn't depend upon what I think, though there are certainly more explanations than myth, hoax or delusion. I saw what appeared to be a bigfoot walking casually along the side of the road once upon a time, only to discover it was an optical illusion. I may have convinced myself I saw bigfoot if I hadn't gotten a closer look.

The P/G film subject's anatomy behaved exactly like the nude models anatomy.

So Patty behaved exactly like a human?

I thought Munns was trying to prove Patty wasn't a human?

RayG

 

[eerok]

To deny without investigation is not wisdom. As to be taken seriously here....I have other more pressing things to worry about. As I said before I say what I mean, the truth. How you take it is entirely up to you.

You're convinced of your beliefs, that's great. Doubts are pesky things.

You have offered nothing of substance to support your bigfoot beliefs, and all I ask for is acceptable evidence before I consider the plausibility of an impossible thing.

When you came here you must have thought that you had something that would compel the nasty skeptics to accept your view of the world... at least when it comes to bigfoot. And yet you have fallen conspicuously short.

Like I said, I don't want to pick on you, but you have offered nothing useful to support your opinion that bigfoot exists, and I doubt very much that this situation will improve.

You have very emphatically not taken this place by storm, if this was your intention. You need to back yourself up here if you want to assert impossible things, and you have not even begun to do that.

Your implication that I have some kind of belief regarding bigfoot that I'm required in any way to defend is false. I just follow where the evidence leads.

 

[HarryHenderson]

I've watched the Munns presentation and I think he makes a good case for a Biological creature. As I said on the BFF, I'd like to see a similar presentation made that counters Bill Munns' presentation. The documentaries that have tried to recreate the P/G film so far have failed to convince me that we're looking at a suit.

And I think you're confused as to what incompetent is. That is, despite the utter lack of even a single piece of actual Bigfoot evidence that should have come about from any one of the billions of humans who have populated the earth over an untold number of centuries, you still "think he makes a good case for a Biological creature" based on his amateur, self-serving 'analysis' of a dubious 20 second clip of film that was not coincidentally produced by a known and well established con-man and hustler? Even knowing that same type of easily identifiable 'creature' has never been filmed clearly again in the nearly 46 years since? And...that you will only believe what Bill Munns says until proven differently?

Would you believe there's a call for you on line two from some Nigerian official who's got some really great news?

Seriously, the only "good case" he's making is showing how easy it is to fool folks like you for fun and profit. You really do believe so he simply takes you where you already want to go. The thing is, if he really were the skilled Hollywood costumer he pretends, you would probably hate him. He'd have long ago made a comparable PGF suit, filmed it à la Patterson and then slammed it down on Disney's front desk and yelled "Now THAT'S how you do that mutha *******!" See, that's what people who genuinely do things do. Often especially so when it's something they 'care so passionately about' like Munns apparently, umm, supposedly does about the PGF. The sad part for him is his fame and fortune would have been secure and legitimate had he done so. As opposed to his not doing so and instead writing literally walls of self righteousness disguised as text where he goes over the endless list of excuses as to why 'the suit' just can't be made in any known universe he's aware of.

The truth is he's not really one of those savvy, clever Hollywood sorts like he pretends. Not even close. He's a ne'er-do-well 'incompetent' who knows just enough to be dangerous. I mean, where in all of gawd's green earth would he get the authority to declare so many cosmic truths about things he has absolutely no business declaring cosmic truths about? Himself maybe? Of course. I don't doubt for a second he's a true legend in his own mind.

Maybe if we're lucky he 'knows just enough to be dangerous' to that Bigfoot gravy-train he's perpetually trying to milk! No?

 

[GT/CS]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Patty (if real) isn't human the way we are, so there are going to be noticable differences in the anatomy. How much will depend on the genetic distance. Expecting her to have the exact same shape as us doesn't make sense to me.

We must try to make observations as unbiasedly as possible. And the reality is, there hasn't been anything in the film itself that suggests she's not a real animal. Pareidolia/nitpicking just doesn't cut it.

So OS says bigfoot's anatomy shouldn't behave like a human and Chris says he believes Munns is onto something because Patty's anatomy behaves like a naked human.

Give me a ******* break!
Maybe these two should debate each other.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

We are getting a ton of off topic posts..

Those interested non-PGF discussion need to take it elsewhere..

Moderation has been requested..