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[SezMe]

I will email Calebs silence file to you, flaccon. The only difference this will make is that you will have one less excuse to hide behind.

Don't. Another file. Another upload. Another download. Another excuse. Another diversion.

Really, abaddon, don't bother. You KNOW the outcome already.

 

[SezMe]

Flaccon, leave while you still have a tiny shred of dignity.

She does?

 

[Daylightstar]

flaccon, I have a lovely 20 second quiet recording done with Sound Recorder through normal mic volume on a Windows machine.
You have confirmed Sound Recorder as suitable:

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Also, I checked "Sound Recorder" on my laptop tonight, yes that app also picks up the spirit voices/noises.

... why doesn't someone out there make a 20 second recording up, using either Youcam, or their built-in "Sound Recorder" and have it uploaded to Box.com. ...

I could email that file to you, but I have a condition:

Your GP (if a partner in the practice or not) or this particular practice he works for will register and/or post in this thread his/their take on what you have ascribed to your GP, including clarifying the contents of the letter you claim your GP wrote.​

If your GP or his practice is willing to publicly commit to the opinions that you have ascribed to her/him/them, I am willing to send you that lovely 20 second silent/quiet audio file.

 

[bluesjnr]

flaccon, I have a lovely 20 second quiet recording done with Sound Recorder through normal mic volume on a Windows machine.
You have confirmed Sound Recorder as suitable:



I could email that file to you, but I have a condition:

Your GP (if a partner in the practice or not) or this particular pract
ice he works for will register and/or post in this thread his/their take on what you have ascribed to your GP, including clarifying the contents of the letter you claim your GP wrote.​

If your GP or his practice is willing to publicly commit to the opinions that you have ascribed to her/him/them, I am willing to send you that lovely 20 second silent/quiet audio file.

Are you serious

You are not in a position to order people about. You are creating conditions based on a third persons agreement, which flaccon has no control over.

I fail to see why you are obsessing on this letter. Ultimately it is none of your business what is in it and what we have seen thus far informs us that there is nothing to be gained by discovering what was redacted.

 

[abaddon]

Are you serious

You are not in a position to order people about. You are creating conditions based on a third persons agreement, which flaccon has no control over.

I fail to see why you are obsessing on this letter. Ultimately it is none of your business what is in it and what we have seen thus far informs us that there is nothing to be gained by discovering what was redacted.

I see your point. However, it was flaccon who introduced the letter as evidence in this thread which, IMHO, makes it the business of this thread.

Do you think introducing a heavily redacted letter as evidence of anything without at least asking the obvious question "What has been redacted and why?" should simply be accepted at face value?

 

[abaddon]

Don't. Another file. Another upload. Another download. Another excuse. Another diversion.

Really, abaddon, don't bother. You KNOW the outcome already.

It is de nada to peg an email away. I believe I am not the first to offer. Flaccon simply pretends that nobody has offered to do so. That cannot be allowed to stand unopposed. Caleb took the trouble to create a pure silence file and a normalised version. I am simply offering to email them to flaccon. You know, that thing she claims nobody here would do.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

It is de nada to peg an email away. I believe I am not the first to offer. Flaccon simply pretends that nobody has offered to do so. That cannot be allowed to stand unopposed. Caleb took the trouble to create a pure silence file and a normalised version. I am simply offering to email them to flaccon. You know, that thing she claims nobody here would do.

You have to pick your words carefully. flaccon did not claim nobody offered, she claimed nobody did it.

Caleb posted his files for anyone to download but didn't actually email her the files, which we all recognise is irrelevant, but that detail remains her actual claim.

Also the file of ambient noise Caleb created had the gain increased until the noise was at full level. That's not what flaccon wants because the files to which she's accustomed only have background noise at whatever level the automatic gain control provides; probably 40 or so dB quieter than Caleb's recording, and right on the limit of what the low grade webcam software can record.

 

[abaddon]

You have to pick your words carefully. flaccon did not claim nobody offered, she claimed nobody did it.

Caleb posted his files for anyone to download but didn't actually email her the files, which we all recognise is irrelevant, but that detail remains her actual claim.

Hard to do without her email addy. She could PM it to me but has not. Offer stands. Flaccon believes that there is a difference between D/L and mail, regardless of the fact that we all know there is not.

Also the file of ambient noise Caleb created had the gain increased until the noise was at full level. That's not what flaccon wants because the files to which she's accustomed only have background noise at whatever level the automatic gain control provides; probably 40 or so dB quieter than Caleb's recording, and right on the limit of what the low grade webcam software can record.

In a continuing appeal to ambiguity, flaccon declined to identify the file to which she referred. No matter. I will send both by email with cksum, if only she would identify which files and her email address. Also, as stated up thread, I can get similar artefacts using her software and methods. It's not difficult, it just installs a mega-crop of crapware at the same time. I do not recommend trying it unless you are pretty handy on PC installation/deinstallation, but hey, it's your funeral.

anyhoo, flaccon has not dealt with the fact that I can get the very same or similar artefacts from a default installation of the same software. So could you, so could anyone. Flaccon does not want to hear it

 

[IXP]

Little Red Riding Hood listened to the first silent file, and exclaimed "this file is tooooo soft". Then she listened to the second silent file, and asserted with horror, "this file is tooooo loud!". Will Baby Bear please send little Red Riding Hood a file that is "just right!"

IXP

ETA: Via email of course, so it does not get distorted.

 

[AdMan]

ETA: Via email of course, so it does not get distorted.

Prediction: flaccon will fail to see the sarcasm in that statement and continue to claim that she's been "informed" that downloaded files get distorted.

 

[tuxcat]

Prediction: flaccon will fail to see the sarcasm in that statement and continue to claim that she's been "informed" that downloaded files get distorted.

Then there is no hope for her - she is already denying reality but if she now denies the reality of file systems then she's scuppered. Her claims revolve around computers - she seems to have little to no understanding of how they work, how files work or how to set up a proper audio recording system. And using codecs for things they weren't designed to do. WMV for audio - not even schoolchildren would make that mistake!

She has disproven that ghosts exist - she's having a monumentous hissy fit because she cut her torso off to spite a pimple on her nose.

 

[Blue Bubble]

I've already mentioned the Dunning–Kruger effect^WP in this thread.

Basically, Tracey is too incompetent to realise how incompetent she is.

I don't think she needs professional help at all. She just needs to snap out of this crazy obsession, and come (back?) to reality. I honestly feel very, very sorry for her.

 

[Daylightstar]

Are you serious
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Yes.

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You are not in a position to order people about set conditions. You are creating conditions based on a third persons agreement, which flaccon has no control over....

^{strike through and corr. by Daylightstar}
I can set such conditon. Whether flaccon has control over agreements as mentioned by you, is unknown to you.
Otherwise, I refer to abaddon's response.

Of course, anyone else is in a position to freely provide flaccon with audio files by transporting such audio files from one computer to another where flaccon can pick it/them up.

 

[abaddon]

Yes.


^{strike through and corr. by Daylightstar}
I can set such conditon. Whether flaccon has control over agreements as mentioned by you, is unknown to you.
Otherwise, I refer to abaddon's response.

And isn't that exactly what establishing a protocol is all about? Establishing conditions? As we sit right now, flaccon introduced censored evidence which proves not a lot. Were the unredacted version posted, I think we might see that the GP was not saying what flaccon wanted him/her to say. I suspect flaccon simply cherry picked sentences from that letter which suited her and eliminated the rest in order to sustain the delusion.

I freely acknowledge that I cannot state that as fact, but by the same token, flaccon cannot use it as fact with redactions.

Of course, anyone else is in a position to freely provide flaccon with audio files by transporting such audio files from one computer to another where flaccon can pick it/them up.

I eagerly await her PM with her email addy with...a jaundiced feeling that it will never arrive, and even if it does she will simply deny receipt.

 

[Daylightstar]

Prediction: flaccon will fail to see the sarcasm in that statement and continue to claim that she's been "informed" that downloaded files get distorted.

It was mostly the uploading of files which supposedly would distort the files, the downloading was apparently no problem.

But then again she planned to create a box.com account to upload her files.

 

[G6000]

If there be angels, it appears they only communicate with exceptional people. To come to terms with the discovery one is not such a person has to be horribly difficult.

flaccon, I hope the million dollars has not been inwardly spent the way many people spend their lottery winnings before the drawing. A worldy expectation is bad for the spirit.

If you have an artistic gift, it is more than I have. Good for you. I wish I could draw, dance, sing, play an instrument. But, alas...

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

Little Red Riding Hood listened to the first silent file, and exclaimed "this file is tooooo soft". Then she listened to the second silent file, and asserted with horror, "this file is tooooo loud!". Will Baby Bear please send little Red Riding Hood a file that is "just right!"

IXP

ETA: Via email of course, so it does not get distorted.

Then Goldilocks showed up and said "eh, get the **** out of my story!". ☻

 

[Daylightstar]

And isn't that exactly what establishing a protocol is all about? Establishing conditions? As we sit right now, flaccon introduced censored evidence which proves not a lot. Were the unredacted version posted, I think we might see that the GP was not saying what flaccon wanted him/her to say. I suspect flaccon simply cherry picked sentences from that letter which suited her and eliminated the rest in order to sustain the delusion.

I freely acknowledge that I cannot state that as fact, but by the same token, flaccon cannot use it as fact with redactions.
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Seconded.

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I eagerly await her PM with her email addy with...a jaundiced feeling that it will never arrive, and even if it does she will simply deny receipt.

I could pass it on for you through email, but it's better if she explicitly commits to wanting to receive such a file from you. Then she'll probably provide you with her email address herself.

 

[abaddon]

I could pass it on for you through email, but it's better if she explicitly commits to wanting to receive such a file from you. Then she'll probably provide you with her email address herself.

Best that she sends it herself, else it looks like ganging up, an accusation I am sure she would love to be able to level at JREF.

Better yet, if she provided her addy to you voluntarily, YOU send the files. Either way, it closes down this particular excuse. She would now have 2 offering what she claims has never happened, one of which has actually done it. I will also send if she PM's her addy. Leaves her no leg to stand on.

 

[Daylightstar]

I could pass it on for you through email, but it's better if she explicitly commits to wanting to receive such a file from you. Then she'll probably provide you with her email address herself.

Best that she sends it herself, else it looks like ganging up, an accusation I am sure she would love to be able to level at JREF.

Better yet, if she provided her addy to you voluntarily, YOU send the files. Either way, it closes down this particular excuse. She would now have 2 offering what she claims has never happened, one of which has actually done it. I will also send if she PM's her addy. Leaves her no leg to stand on.

A claim of ganging up won't work, since she has requested such quiet file to be emailed to her.
It's however best to await her commitment to it.

Which files were you suggesting I send?