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IXP said:
I agree with the English speaking theory of flacon_1.

I believe the man, after the woman's first statement, say "how's that?", and then she repeats, which makes sense.

It sounds to me like she might be saying "I'll pick you up on time", though this is far from clear.

The voices are clearly distorted by bad compression.


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I'm torn. I do believe the second person makes the woman repeat what she said. I also took away the idea that there was a pick up mentioned, as well as, rather clearly, "on time". But I don't see how we wouldn't pick up on the rest.

I can't escape the German "r" by the second man. Could be a bilingual conversation, I've had a million of those. Could a German speaking member not confirm or deny this?

I still think Pillory should be our translator on this thread. :D
 
abaddon said:
I admire your optimism. She will not.
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Well that's her problem - if she's that closed minded then that's tough cheese (was going to put something else there). It's been explained - she can choose to ignore the explanation but that's her lookout.
 
Maurice Ledifficile said:
Certainly. The goalposts will move. Or the discussion will shift toward the blood "art".
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Right. At least with the audio malarkey we were able to nail it. Subjective visual interpretation is much harder to nail down. Clouds forming images anyone?

I will post out this, and it is in no way an accusation of current behaviour, simply an opinion/prediction.

If flaccon moves on to visual pareidolia it will simply be evidence of duplicity.
 
He seems to say at least
"ein Reich" and "(prepositions) Regiebüro"
then at the end my mind makes it sound like he starts to explain about some other person ("er") and is cut off.
Also, after a while even the woman voice starts to sound german, "-siehen --- beine!"
I'm not a native speaker.
 
abaddon said:
Right. At least with the audio malarkey we were able to nail it. Subjective visual interpretation is much harder to nail down. Clouds forming images anyone?

I will post out this, and it is in no way an accusation of current behaviour, simply an opinion/prediction.

If flaccon moves on to visual pareidolia it will simply be evidence of duplicity.
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Then she'll need to demonstrate a rigorous protocol to test it. And I mean rigorous.
 
abaddon said:
Her original examples are still up here. For the life of me, I can make nothing of her images.
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Utter piffle is all I can say - it's pareidolia with a vengeance. And vivid at that. I can't see how those labels correspond to splotches that look like someone's done the toilet on a bed-sheet.
 
Well I am planning on working on my bike tonight so I am sure to cut myself. I will bleed on my shirt, let it dry, and then we can zoom in on pictures taken of the stains and point out the "art."
 
Maurice Ledifficile said:
If the investigation work done by the skeptics, especially the recent technical analysis by abaddon, calebprime et al. is not satisfactory, one could go to phase two and replicate her results.


Official claim on Tracey's website:
For skeptics: We can offer you a £1000 reward, against a £100.00 donation made by yourself to your chosen Charity, if you can debunk "our claim" or simply re-create the "Art work and Voices" in the same style as spirits have created it.
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I sense she will get stung by this and badly. Someone hasn't read about Carlill vs The Carbolic Smoke Ball Co (1892) or contract law!
 
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Also look at the images properly. That is not a face. It's a lady with a parasol sitting peacefully.
 
tuxcat said:
I sense she will get stung by this and badly. Someone hasn't read about Carlill vs The Carbolic Smoke Ball Co (1892) or contract law!
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Well, I dare hope no one will take it that seriously. It's off the site and the definition of "re-create" might be an issue. "Debunking" as well.

Of course we did Tracey a huge favour by convincing her to consider her claims before advertising, whether she realizes it or not. there were seriously dubious items on her menu.

ETA: Thanks for the read. Very interesting.
 
Maurice Ledifficile said:
tuxcat said:
I sense she will get stung by this and badly. Someone hasn't read about Carlill vs The Carbolic Smoke Ball Co (1892) or contract law!
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Well, I dare hope no one will take it that seriously. It's off the site and the definition of "re-create" might be an issue. "Debunking" as well.

Of course we did Tracey a huge favour by convincing her to consider her claims before advertising, whether she realizes it or not. there were seriously dubious items on her menu.

ETA: Thanks for the read. Very interesting.
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Problem is that she has made a claim to the public at large. If someone accepts it, then there'll be smoke-balls at dawn.

ETA: if I was flaccon I'd remove this at once before it brings the sky down around my ears as someone may well accept it and that'll be the start of a messy lawsuit for breach of contract unless she and the contractor agree to what "recreate" is. It's already been debunked - the cause has been identified by several people who are in the know re. audio as being a software artefact.
 
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In case anyone cares, I vote against everyone posting what they see in her various stains.

Not that I really mind, but I can see it becoming "Continuation part 9: Looking for Skeptics"


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calebprime said:
I've uploaded a few files to Box to show how excessive or cheap noise-reduction introduces "chirping" artifacts.
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Thanks, Calebprime.
Mystery solved, then?


Pixel42 said:
... I think I've worked that out. One of the funerals was that of her father (I think the other was her mother's) and instead of RIPing (resting in peace) he's communicating with her from the spirit world. So the promise made by the priest who conducted the funeral was not kept - that's the "big fib" which cost her £8000 (the price of the 2 funerals).

But it was also a priest who told her, when she went to him about the malevolent spirits that were haunting her and her family, that benevolent spirits would now be protecting her - to which she attributes the 13 years of relative peace that followed - and she thinks her recent EVP experiences are a manifestation of these same benevolent spirits. So the church are responsible for her EVP experiences and should be listening to her and investigating them.
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Biscuit said:
Well I am planning on working on my bike tonight so I am sure to cut myself. I will bleed on my shirt, let it dry, and then we can zoom in on pictures taken of the stains and point out the "art."
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Who knows?
You might be on the threshold of accessing a tidy little money-spinner there!
 
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