Nazi UFO's!! Seriously...

MaxMurx said:
I don't believe in Nazi UFOs too. What makes me a bit nervous however is that in a book which is trying to separate fact from fiction:

http://archive.org/details/FlugscheibenberNeuschwabenlandreichsdeutsche

the page 64 (an interview with a pilot who had to make an emergency landing in Area 51, reporting to have seen modern versions of those alleged Nazi UFOs) is blanked out in the pdf - version and deleted in the text version (after page 63 comes page 65).
It could be interpreted as a publicity gag by the author and/or the publisher. The page however exists and can be found here (same author, excerpt from the book with page(s) preserved):

http://franken-buecher.de/flugscheibendiegrtelgeseit1945-buch_infos-71.html?tPath=1#top

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My idea is it has to do with a phenomenon hitherto unknown.

Someone goofed up.
 
MaGZ said:
OK the laughs are over. Now let’s talk about a serious journalist who has investigated these matters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Witkowski
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Does this sound like your 911 claims?
No primary documentation, aside from Witkowski's account, exists for the weapon.
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Wiki, wow.

What did wiki say? No primary documentation. Sounds the same evidence as that for Bigfoot.

What does the NAZI ufo look like?




MaGZ said:
OK the laughs are over.
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Short thread...

Matthew Ellard said:
There is a "not very nice aspect" to Nazi UFOs. As you can imagine senior holocaust deniers write pamplets for profit by selling them to low IQ idiots. Ernst Zündel wrote such pamphlets but then decided to go the next step and make up stories about Nazi UFOs.

I will let Nizkor, an anti "holocaust denial" website give you the full story.
[URL="http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/flying-saucers/expedition.html ..."]http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/flying-saucers/expedition.html ... [/URL]
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Nazi UFO, or weird viral marketing for Argentine Taco Bell?
 
Mike! said:
So, this is a documentery then?

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HoverBoarder said:
Oh no...

That just looks like such a mad movie...

They did have fun with the Palin presidency though. But they should have made it more humorous though if they were trying to go copy the Mars Attacks! formula.
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This movie (Iron Sky) is a bit on the cheesy side, but very fun. I loved the events around the end.

And it's on Netflix streaming...
 
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HoverBoarder said:
...they could have submarine bases, and they sent supplies, and submarines, and scientists there, and they made UFOs there, and the UFOs attacked a US military convoy, but no one talks about that because it is super secret, and the Nazi UFO base is still there as proved by Google Earth, and there are most definitely still Nazi UFOs out there just waiting to strike....
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That's the essential backstory for the Iron Skies movie (Mike! linked to the trailer). It's been in production a long time (since 2006 I think) by what started out to be a small group creative film makers.

Part of their original plan was to seed the internet with backstory and supporting "Nazi UFO" stories that expanded upon the existing rumors. We (AboveTopSecret.com) were approached to help create the viral components that would eventually promote the ideas in the movie. We didn't take part.

While there are many bits and pieces of stories and rumors of advanced Nazi technology that created saucer-like craft... be aware that much of it -- especially as it relates to Antarctica -- probably originated with viral awareness efforts for the Iron Skies movie.
 
SkepticGuy said:
That's the essential backstory for the Iron Skies movie (Mike! linked to the trailer). It's been in production a long time (since 2006 I think) by what started out to be a small group creative film makers.
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Anything that's be "in production" for 7 years isn't a "film", it's someone's hobby/wet dream. If it were being started now, it'd be an Indiegogo/Kickstarter funding drive first. In any case, it isn't a serious production which is back-stopped by the fact that you and ATS elected not to be associated with it.

That in and of itself speaks volumes.

Fitz
 
Dcdrac said:
maybe something like this

http://www.avroarrow.org/avrocar/index.html
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Germans did have a plane with a disk shaped wing but it resembled the 'Flying Pancake' more than a flying saucer.

Of course if you look the sketches that Kenneth Arnold drew of what he saw and were latter misquoted as being flying saucers they do resemble the kind of flying wing designs the Germans were experimenting with. Now US copies of German aircraft is less unlikely than alien spacecraft but still a long, long, long, way from likely.
 
fitzgibbon said:
Anything that's be "in production" for 7 years isn't a "film", it's someone's hobby/wet dream. If it were being started now, it'd be an Indiegogo/Kickstarter funding drive first. In any case, it isn't a serious production which is back-stopped by the fact that you and ATS elected not to be associated with it.

That in and of itself speaks volumes.

Fitz
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I have to point out Iron Skies was completed and released last year:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/
 
SkepticGuy said:
That's the essential backstory for the Iron Skies movie (Mike! linked to the trailer). It's been in production a long time (since 2006 I think) by what started out to be a small group creative film makers.

Part of their original plan was to seed the internet with backstory and supporting "Nazi UFO" stories that expanded upon the existing rumors. We (AboveTopSecret.com) were approached to help create the viral components that would eventually promote the ideas in the movie. We didn't take part.

While there are many bits and pieces of stories and rumors of advanced Nazi technology that created saucer-like craft... be aware that much of it -- especially as it relates to Antarctica -- probably originated with viral awareness efforts for the Iron Skies movie.
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Actually the story of a Nazi base in Antarctica goes back to 1947 when Admiral Byrd went down there to explore the continent. Onboard the expedition was Keith Thompson a German agent who was based in New York during the war.
 
Have you ever thrown a "Frisbee" or some other object spinning very rapidly? What about a football? Have you ever thrown the very same object without any spin? Was there any difference in aerodynamic or "flying" properties? If the answer is "yes" it makes perfect sense to investigate if that effect can be used in larger commercial or transport aircrafts. If that ever was attempted is unknown to myself. I am rather confused that besides some more or less obscure stories about Nazi flying sourcers nothing can be found in any serious publications. Sometimes silence can be disturbing too. If you have anything about serious research on that topic, please let me know. (And please refrain from any kiddish complaints about incorrect English spelling or grammar. It is the topic which matters, nothing else).
 
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HoverBoarder said:
OK, my apologies in advance if this ever so important of a subject has already been covered, but I just came across it, and found it:

HE-LARIOUS


So let me try to give the summary of it in one long, run-on sentence:

So the Nazis were really into the Occult, and they were really into studying magical science super-duper weapons, and they found Atlantis, but it was not Atlantis, it was Antarctica, which was found by Piri Reis, an Ottoman-Turkish admiral in 1513, and there were warm caverns there where they could have submarine bases, and they sent supplies, and submarines, and scientists there, and they made UFOs there, and the UFOs attacked a US military convoy, but no one talks about that because it is super secret, and the Nazi UFO base is still there as proved by Google Earth, and there are most definitely still Nazi UFOs out there just waiting to strike.


Wheh.

OK, so there is such a thing as the Piri Reis map, and the Nazis (and the Americans) did work on circular aerial vehicles around WWII, but that seems to be where the facts end.


Here is some of the CT info on it:

Russia Admits NAZI UFO BASE IN ANTARCTICA,CONFIRMED BY GOOGLE EARTH TOO

http://www.naziufos.com/

Third Reich - Operation UFO (Nazi Base in Antarctica)



So any takes or amusing anecdotes to add? Or is Nazi UFOs good enough?
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What's sad is that this Nazi/UFO storyline has enough traction to be addressed on the History Channel. While channel flipping I've come across "Nazi UFO Conspiracy" and "Nazis vs Aliens". I think there was another 'documentary' about a "Nazi Bell" or something like that along the same lines. The History Channel has been the Hitler Channel since the beginning and it started adding those silly UFO Hunter series a few years ago. It was only a matter of time before they merged the two.
 
Anybody else remember the Sleeper plotline from "Captain America" where the Red Skull programmed UFO like robots to activate 20 years after the Nazis lost the war to destroy the world?
 
MaxMurx said:
Have you ever thrown a "Frisbee" or some other object spinning very rapidly? What about a football? Have you ever thrown the very same object without any spin? Was there any difference in aerodynamic or "flying" properties? If the answer is "yes" it makes perfect sense to investigate if that effect can be used in larger commercial or transport aircrafts. If that ever was attempted is unknown to myself. I am rather confused that besides some more or less obscure stories about Nazi flying sourcers nothing can be found in any serious publications. Sometimes silence can be disturbing too. If you have anything about serious research on that topic, please let me know. (And please refrain from any kiddish complaints about incorrect English spelling or grammar. It is the topic which matters, nothing else).
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Disc shaped wings have been tested; they had disappointing characteristics. As for spinning an object generally it increases stability in flight; its why they rifle bullets. For a fighter increased stability is the last thing you want as it works against agility. That of course is a minor issue compared to the problem of steering and propulsion; and if you overcome that what about the effects on the crew/passengers of being in what amounts to a centrifuge? Ever been in one of those spinning drum fairground rides? Imagine that for a couple of hours flying from A to B.

There has been no serious research on spinning aircraft for all of the above reasons and doubtless a few more I've missed.
 
What's the significance anyway? The Nazis invented a lot of things. Rocket planes, rifles with night vision scopes, "cruise missiles" (don't know if that's a proper term for the V-2), advanced invasion tactics ("Blitzkrieg"), a nuclear program, and the list goes on.

So if they also invented functional combat aircraft that happened to be saucer-shaped, so what? Sure, it'd be impressive, but how would it be that much more amazing than their other achievements? Is the claim that "aircraft with a saucer shape must mean the Nazi regime had a Lend-Lease program with interstellar arms dealers" or something:confused:?
 
Forget the UFO's. I want to hear about the freaking Nazi Sharks With Lasers on their heads.
 
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