Continuation Part 5: Discussion of the Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito case

[RWVBWL]

Meredith used hard drugs???

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this has all the elements of a cat fight that spiraled out of control b/c one of the cats was laced out on cocaine or herorin mixed with alcohol and weed, an especially potent cocktail of crazy.

What?
doctesla,
you do know, after all the studying in the case that you have done,
that Amanda Knox was drug tested after she was arrested, correct?

Heck, even Barbie Nadeau wrote of this:
Page 162 Angel Face, Author: Barbie Nadeau
"As for Amanda and Raf, when they were finally arrested, on November 6, only the slightest unidentifiable trace of narcotics was found through hair samples - not even enough to identify the substance."

I can only guess that you,
drtesla, are inferring that Meredith Kercher was high on cocaine or heroin the night she was murdered??? Correct?
We know that she had alcohol in her system when found the next day.
But Meredith used hard drugs also???
Ya got a link to that, doc?

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

if you are throwing a rock almost directly up

Why do you think Rudy threw it almost directly up, as opposed to almost directly horizontally?

 

[DrTesla]

Why do you think Rudy threw it almost directly up, as opposed to almost directly horizontally?

how could he throw it directly horizontallay if the window is 13 feet above the ground? is there ground from a distance of the house that is fairly level with this window?

it would seem his throwing angle would have to be 45 to 60 degrees in relation to the ground depending on how far he was from the house. if he's too close there is no way the rock goes through the window and lands in the room and hard to see it even breaking the window at too close an angle give it won't be going that fast due to it's large size and a wimply druggie boy throwing it up.

there would be a j vector component for the throw for sure. as students of physics we cannot deny this.

 

[DrTesla]

What?
doctesla,
you do know, after all the studying in the case that you have done,
that Amanda Knox was drug tested after she was arrested, correct?

Heck, even Barbie Nadeau wrote of this:
Page 162 Angel Face, Author: Barbie Nadeau
"As for Amanda and Raf, when they were finally arrested, on November 6, only the slightest unidentifiable trace of narcotics was found through hair samples - not even enough to identify the substance."

I can only guess that you,
drtesla, are inferring that Meredith Kercher was high on cocaine or heroin the night she was murdered??? Correct?
We know that she had alcohol in her system when found the next day.
But Meredith used hard drugs also???
Ya got a link to that, doc?

i'm not a drug addict, but given Nov. 6th was several days after the night of the murder, isn't it possible and eve probable that there would no traces of the drug in their sytem by this time? for those who abuse drugs, only, or pharmacists, or physicians. we need expert testimony on this point.

 

[Kaosium]

how could he throw it directly horizontallay if the window is 13 feet above the ground? is there ground from a distance of the house that is fairly level with this window?

it would seem his throwing angle would have to be 45 to 60 degrees in relation to the ground depending on how far he was from the house. if he's too close there is no way the rock goes through the window and lands in the room and hard to see it even breaking the window at too close an angle give it won't be going that fast due to it's large size and a wimply druggie boy throwing it up.

there would be a j vector component for the throw for sure. as students of physics we cannot deny this.

Here is another mechanical engineer who specialized in accident reconstruction who evaluated the physics of the break-in. Read through it if you want an overview of the grounds, window and room inside.


After you do that I can post what Massei came up with if you really want a good laugh!

 

[Grinder]

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

is there ground from a distance of the house that is fairly level with this window?

Of course there is such ground. Didn't you know that? Have you looked at a map of the site? Grinder has already posted a teensy clue to help you out.

 

[RWVBWL]

Aren't they professionals???

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this has all the elements of a cat fight that spiraled out of control b/c one of the cats was laced out on cocaine or herorin mixed with alcohol and weed, an especially potent cocktail of crazy.

What?
doctesla,
you do know, after all the studying in the case that you have done,
that Amanda Knox was drug tested after she was arrested, correct?

Heck, even Barbie Nadeau wrote of this:
Page 162 Angel Face, Author: Barbie Nadeau
"As for Amanda and Raf, when they were finally arrested, on November 6, only the slightest unidentifiable trace of narcotics was found through hair samples - not even enough to identify the substance."

I can only guess that you,
drtesla, are inferring that Meredith Kercher was high on cocaine or heroin the night she was murdered??? Correct?
We know that she had alcohol in her system when found the next day.
But Meredith used hard drugs also???
Ya got a link to that, doc?

i'm not a drug addict, but given Nov. 6th was several days after the night of the murder, isn't it possible and eve probable that there would no traces of the drug in their sytem by this time? for those who abuse drugs, only, or pharmacists, or physicians. we need expert testimony on this point.

LOL!!!


Hey doc,
what are you trying to say,
friend?

That the police investigators in Perugia, Italy do not know how to properly test, nor when to test, an incarcerated suspect for drugs???Hmmmm...


So what is going on here?
If Amanda did not test positive for cocaine nor heroin, nor even marijuana,
do you still stand by your statement saying that 1 of the cats,which must have meant Meredith Kercher,
was high on hard drugs the night Rudy Guede raped her???

Hmmmm...
RW

 

[DrTesla]

Of course there is such ground. Didn't you know that? Have you looked at a map of the site? Grinder has already posted a teensy clue to help you out.

no I have not made it over to Italy yet to survey this site, I've been putting it off. I intend to check it out in a few years when I visit the Butcher of Perugia Amanda Knox in jail to make sure she has access to her vibrator, given what we know about political brutality there.

do you know, by chance, at what distance this horizontal ground is from the window that Rudy broke into? Newton's laws of motion will be very helpful in determining if a throw could have been made over a specified horizontal distance with the weight of the rock being known. we will need to determine the velocity at point of impact with the window as well b/c that is what is really important for the breaking of the window to be successful. we will also have to assume a reasonable throwing velocity, if Rudy, given his athletic ability as has been well noted on here, we will assume he pitched a 100 mph fastball, and maybe even add a factor of safety on top of that to give the benefit of the doubt that the rock at least made it to the window from some distance away on level ground with the window.

I think our two young protaganists, who obviously were far busieser with more important things like sex, drugs, and butchering conceited prissy little rooms, probably did not think much about the laws of physics when selecting this large 10 lb rock. they assumed that a bigger rock = more suitable for ensuring success in breaking a window. but the reality a smaller rock was more suitable for breaking the glass at such a high point from the point of release because the velocity is critical to obtain the force required to break the glass and it would also need to have momentum to absorb the energy of the impact but still continue to move forward into the room and land on the floor where it was found

 

[DrTesla]

I''m not a drug addict and I don't anything about these hard drugs like crack cocaine and heroin, but could one main reason that Knox and Raffe were so intent on delaying the discovery of the body, as evident by locking the victim's bedroom and even Filo's bedroom so nobody could see the broken window, was that they knew that these hard drugs would be found in their system and so they wanted as much time as possible to sober up so to speak?

As Knox and Raffe have admitted, they used pot that night, and as everybody knows, research studies have indicated that pot is a gateway drug to harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

 

[Prometheus]

if you are throwing a rock almost directly up , it has the gravitional force vector pulling it down in the opposite direction of the path of motion required. every pound increase in the rock you select is essentially a multiplier of the gravitational force working on the rock which would just be making the task of breaking the window more difficult than necessary.

it would make much more sense to use a lighter rock, especially if you must aim to hit the window. A man could probably hoist a 10 lb rock up there but just seems more likely you would use a lighter rock given all you are trying to do is break glass. the key is more velocity to break the glass and a 10 lb rock simply isn't going to be moving as fast as a lighter rock at that height


If there is a 10 lb rock outside in the yard one would think smaller rocks were available.

given that Raffe was too wimpy to break down the victim's flimsy bedroom door that Filo's stud boyfriend swatted down like it was saren wrap, how can we just assume that this little wimpy spoiled brat could hoist a 10 lb rock at the house? He also had to get far enough away from the house that the throwing angle not only allowed for the rock to break the window but to crash through into the bedroom, which I didn't really even consider in my previous analysis, so the rock had to travel a good little ways in the horizontal direction in addition to the 10-13 feet in the vertical. I just don't this little wimpy drugged out boy could have managed this. Maybe Knox b/c she is kind of manly in some ways. we should also consider that certain drugs can give people superhuman strength.

It's actually normal for an experienced burglar to choose a heavier object for the purpose. The idea is that you want something that makes a really loud noise, so that if you're mistaken and there's actually someone asleep inside, you wake them up immediately before you go and climb in the window. Then you can just run away instead of possibly being surprised after you're inside.

 

[DrTesla]

It's actually normal for an experienced burglar to choose a heavier object for the purpose. The idea is that you want something that makes a really loud noise, so that if you're mistaken and there's actually someone asleep inside, you wake them up immediately before you go and climb in the window. Then you can just run away instead of possibly being surprised after you're inside.

wouldn't it be much more logical for Rudy to just wait and watch the front door and wait for everybody to leave. he knows all the women who live there and he probably could have found out from the drug guys downstairs who was leaving that weekend and who was sticking around. i'd have a hard time breaking into a house that I was not 100 percent positive nobody was in, and the idea that the rock was used partly to make a noise on purpose to wake them up seems unlikely b/c he had to break into the house sometime b/t 8-10 pm that night it would seem and thus nobody would even been asleep and what if they are listening to music or the television real loud and just don't hear the rock breaking the glass?

also, it doesn't make any sense to me that somehow a large rock breaking glass is going to sound louder than a smaller rock breaking glass. breaking glass sounds like breaking glass. in fact, a rock that is moving at a higher velocity, thus a lighter rock, is going to break the glass in a much more violent way than a larger rock moving more slowly would. Maybe the louder rock crashing into the room would be louder than the a smaller rock crashing into the room but I would think it would be the sound of the glass shattering that alarm people most and it would be louder than the sound than a rock landing in the room. given people here have claimed that a 10 lb rock isn't really that big, which is true, if gravity forces are not at play, one cannot logically argue that the sound of a 10 lb rock would be much louder than the sound of a 3 lb rock as it tumbles through the window onto the floor.

 

[RWVBWL]

I

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like sex,

Don't you,
doc???

Amanda Knox likes sex,
so does Raffaele Sollecito...

Meredith Kercher liked sex,
heck she borrowed a coupla condoms from her friend Amanda before she was so brutally murdered. Gosh, the girl even luved to experimnent, goin' so far as having anal sex with her new boyfriend of only 10 days...

Isn't sex fun, daddy doc?



Hey doc,
gotta question for ya:
How come I've never heard of Rudy Guede having sex?

Come on doc, you're a dude as I am, no?
Surely Guede-o thought about sex constantly,
as any healthy male does daily, no?

With whom was the Guede-o getting laid?
Meredith was getting laid, Giacomo was getting laid,
Amanda was getting laid, Raffaele was getting laid,
Filomena was too, as was Laura...


But what about Rudy Guede?
Didn't he like sex too???

Gosh, doc,
in between lookin' for jumpin' sharks here in l.A.,
shootin' surfpix+lotsa hot lookin' gals, well I've taken the time to read alot about this read strange case that we both, (weirdo's it seems, per a post of yours) are very interested in...

From all that I have read, doc,
it does not seem that Guede-o was gettin' any luvin',
ya know, any sex, from any women
nor heck, even any men!

Don't ya agree, doctor???

So I have to wonder:
Is that why Rudy Guede raped a dying woman as she lay bleeding to death, choking on her on blood, with Rudy Guede most likely masturbating himself to climax and then ejaculating between Meredith Kercher's naked, spread apart legs???

Why is it that an apparent semen stain has still not been tested?


Hmmmm...
RW

 

[DrTesla]

I was just thinking that a 10 lb rock is going to be pretty heavy to throw up 10-13 feet. think about a 10 lb dumbbell at the gym. I can't hardly lift one or two llbs after 20 repetitions right now due to the fact I fractured and dislocated my shoulder a year ago so I got a unique appreciation for 10 lbs. the idea of zipping a 10 lb rock up to a window high above you at such a velocity that it breaks the window seems inconceivable.

as such, as much as this pains me, I must conclude poor, poor Rudy Guede did not enter the house through that window.

 

[DrTesla]

well looks like I've meet my match, somebody who can debate the sex angle in such a way that it favors Knox, and exposes me as a fool.

If you think about it, and I have, Knox's defense isn't much different from Bill CLinton's during the impeachment trial over Monica.

He claimed it was just sex. Knox claims all she did was have sex. both was targeted for GETTING IT ON.

 

[RWVBWL]

LOL!!!


Hey doc,
what are you trying to say,
friend?

That the police investigators in Perugia, Italy do not know how to properly test, nor when to test, an incarcerated suspect for drugs???Hmmmm...


So what is going on here?
If Amanda did not test positive for cocaine nor heroin, nor even marijuana,
do you still stand by your statement saying that 1 of the cats,which must have meant Meredith Kercher,
was high on hard drugs the night Rudy Guede raped her???

Hmmmm...
RW

I''m not a drug addict and I don't anything about these hard drugs like crack cocaine and heroin, but could one main reason that Knox and Raffe were so intent on delaying the discovery of the body, as evident by locking the victim's bedroom and even Filo's bedroom so nobody could see the broken window, was that they knew that these hard drugs would be found in their system and so they wanted as much time as possible to sober up so to speak?

As Knox and Raffe have admitted, they used pot that night, and as everybody knows, research studies have indicated that pot is a gateway drug to harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

doc,
you are avoiding my question, friend:
As I recall reading in a previous post of yours that you are bi-polar:
please, for the sake of discussion,
allow me to repeat it:

Do you believe that the police investigators in Perugia, Italy do not know how to properly test, nor when to test, an incarcerated suspect for drugs???

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Are the Supreme Court justices also liars?

They may just be fools. Their honorary president is a Truther. I kid you not.

 

[CaptainHowdy]

I think Mignini made the point that he's not trying to prove their guilt. He said that his questions are really geared at helping them prove their innocence. it's incorrect for them to look at him as their enemy. The prosecution's job is to look at the inconsistencies in the accused's story and ask the accused to explain them. why is that unreasonable?

You keep talking about this presumption of innocence as though there is no evidence of their guilt. that's why I used the Miss America contestant analogy. People are convicted of murders despite this presumption of innocence. Most people think OJ is guilty despite the presumption of innocence and no conviction.

A Prosecutor's job is to win convictions. No Prosecutor anywhere in the world is going to gear their questions towards helping a suspect prove their innocence.

the defense lawyers have said that nobody ever hit Knox at the police station. It's my understanding they never filed any kind of complaint about the police at all in both Knox's and Raffe's case. that's curious if there is proof the police behaved badly.

How is anybody suppose to file a complaint when doing so is slander?

 

[RWVBWL]

The Gateway...

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as everybody knows, research studies have indicated that pot is a gateway drug to harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

doc,
you seem to be very well versed in this brutal murder case we discuss,
+so you must have read, as I have, that Meredith Kercher smoked pot,
heck her new boyfriend, Giacomo, was growing it downstairs and she was asked to water his plants while he left her alone, at home, on a national holiday...

Gezz!!

Are you still trying to tell me that Meredith Kercher mighta been doing heroin or cocaine the night Rudy Guede raped her???
Come on, friend!

 

[RWVBWL]

IF Amanda

Knox and Raffe were so intent on delaying the discovery of the body, as evident by locking the victim's bedroom and even Filo's bedroom so nobody could see the broken window

Hey doc,,
we are both pretty deep into this case,
surely we have read much, no?

Gotsta ask ya another question:
Don'tcha think if Amanda +Raff were so intent on delaying the discovery of the body,
WOULDN'T THEY HAVE WENT ON THIER PRE-PLANNED TRIP TO GUBBIO?


Hmmmm...
RW