Founder of Sea Shepherd Arrested in Germany

[theprestige]

So Austrailia is saying that they won't turn over or even consider apprehending a person wanted by Interpol? How very Third World of them.

If the shoe fits...

I mean, right now Sea Shepherd is doing what the Australian Navy won't--or can't--do: Defend waters claimed by Australia.

With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy, if you have to rely on Sea Shepherd to guard your seas...

... You might be a third-world country.

Really, Watson should be a national hero in Australia.













Another option, of course, is for Australia to nut up or shut up. If they're not willing to secure their alleged economic zone against foreign exploitation, then they should probably stop whining about it.

 

[Magenta]

So Austrailia is saying that they won't turn over or even consider apprehending a person wanted by Interpol? How very Third World of them.

A couple of points. An Interpol Red Notice is an alert, not an arrest warrant. Australia will not arrest someone on the basis of a Red Notice alone. The country that wants to prosecute Watson would first have to request his extradition. The A-G has said Watson is not subject to an arrest warrant in Australia but has not said, and as a matter of policy would not say, whether an extradition request has been received.

Another option, of course, is for Australia to nut up or shut up. If they're not willing to secure their alleged economic zone against foreign exploitation, then they should probably stop whining about it.

The Australian government cannot, under the Antarctic Treaty System, enforce territorial claims against foreign nationals operating in the EEZ around Australia's Antarctic territory.

 

[Magenta]

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has announced an investigation into some of the recent incidents between Sea Shepherd and the whaling fleet:

The investigation will include an inspection of the Sam Simon, examination of available documents and records, and interviews with crew. If sufficient evidence of a breach of the International Regulations for Prevention of Collisions at Sea (COLREGS) is found, AMSA may refer a brief of evidence to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) for consideration of prosecution under the Navigation Act 1912.

AMSA surveyors will also assess any available evidence regarding reports that vessels may have spilled diesel into the sea.

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I think this relates to the incident on 20 February when the Nisshin Maru collided with its own tanker, the Sun Laurel, as well as Sea Shepherd ships.

Video of incident:




In other news, Sea Shepherd lawyers in the Netherlands have instituted legal proceedings against the Nisshin Maru's captain:

Lawyer Liesbeth Zegveld filed a criminal complaint with Dutch environmental prosecutors accusing the crew of the Nisshin Maru whaling ship of deliberately ramming Sea Shepherd's ships in February.

The case is being brought in the Netherlands because the Sea Shepherd ships Steve Irwin and Bob Barker both sail under the Dutch flag.

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Zegveld accused the Nisshin Maru's captain Tomoyuki Ogawa and his crew of crimes including "sea robbery" a little-used offense formerly used to prosecute pirates. The charge has recently been dusted off in the Netherlands to prosecute Somali pirates captured by the Dutch navy.

"The Nisshin Maru is guilty of piracy, violence against the crew of a sea vessel endangering safe navigation and the destruction of Sea Shepherd vessels; all three punishable offences under the Dutch Criminal Code," Zegveld said in a statement.

After one of the incidents Zegveld referred to in her complaint, on Feb. 20, Japan's Fisheries Agency insisted the protesters were responsible for the collisions as they tried to hinder a refueling operation.

Zegveld's complaint accused the whalers of deliberately ramming the Sea Shepherd vessels during refueling operations in the Southern Ocean on Feb. 20 and 25.

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[theprestige]

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has announced an investigation into some of the recent incidents between Sea Shepherd and the whaling fleet:



I think this relates to the incident on 20 February when the Nisshin Maru collided with its own tanker, the Sun Laurel, as well as Sea Shepherd ships.

Video of incident:




In other news, Sea Shepherd lawyers in the Netherlands have instituted legal proceedings against the Nisshin Maru's captain:

I wonder if Sea Shepherd will argue that they took precautions to maintain a safe distance from the refueling vessels at all times.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

The SS ship in that video is in the process of intentionally hitting the tanker. There's a JP video of the incident taken from the factory ships starboard bridge wing that shows them muscling in between the two ships. They don't have a leg to stand on and I hope that their bringing it up in the Netherlands will cost them their flag at a minimum.

 

[Magenta]

I think this relates to the incident on 20 February when the Nisshin Maru collided with its own tanker, the Sun Laurel, as well as Sea Shepherd ships.

On review, the alleged oil spill (from the Sun Laurel) was on 17 February, and I'm not sure what incidents the Sam Simon was involved in. Might be best to wait for the AMSA report.

I wonder if Sea Shepherd will argue that they took precautions to maintain a safe distance from the refueling vessels at all times.

I'm not sure now that AMSA actually is investigating the collision between the Nisshin Maru and the Netherlands-flagged Bob Barker, as they only have jurisdiction over Australian-flagged vessels. However, it will be good to get some finding on the issue of refuelling and alleged use of HFO.

The SS ship in that video is in the process of intentionally hitting the tanker. There's a JP video of the incident taken from the factory ships starboard bridge wing that shows them muscling in between the two ships. They don't have a leg to stand on and I hope that their bringing it up in the Netherlands will cost them their flag at a minimum.

Pretty sure the incident you're referring to is on a different day from that shown in the video I posted.

 

[NoahFence]

In an ideal world, someone will blow the Nishan Maru into oblivion while it sits at the dock.

 

[Magenta]

In an ideal world, someone will blow the Nishan Maru into oblivion while it sits at the dock.

In my ideal world it wouldn't come to that.

 

[Damien Evans]

In an ideal world, someone will blow the Nishan Maru into oblivion while it sits at the dock.

Good work hypocrite. Do you realise how much damage that would do to the local environment?

 

[NoahFence]

Good work hypocrite. Do you realise how much damage that would do to the local environment?

A couple of booms and some of that there corexit stuff leftover from the BP disaster should mitigate it. Perhaps that beast will even be in drydock. Perfect!

 

[Marcus]

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has announced an investigation into some of the recent incidents between Sea Shepherd and the whaling fleet:



I think this relates to the incident on 20 February when the Nisshin Maru collided with its own tanker, the Sun Laurel, as well as Sea Shepherd ships.

Video of incident:




In other news, Sea Shepherd lawyers in the Netherlands have instituted legal proceedings against the Nisshin Maru's captain:

Before this the Nisshin stayed technically within the law, even though they abused the heck out of the spirit of it.

I doubt if maritime law allows you to push a ship out of the way if they are occupying space you want for yourself.

 

[theprestige]

Before this the Nisshin stayed technically within the law, even though they abused the heck out of the spirit of it.

I doubt if maritime law allows you to push a ship out of the way if they are occupying space you want for yourself.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if maritime law allows for exactly that, in some circumstances.

I mean, if someone is keeping station or maintaining course independently of your refueling operation, I would consider it criminal to decide to conduct refueling operations right on top of their vessel.

On the other hand, if someone finds your refueling operation, and changes course deliberately to interfere with or block your operation, and they do so repeatedly whenever you try to move away, then I would expect maritime law to allow you to take necessary measures to drive them off and complete your refueling operation.

 

[tsig]

In an ideal world, someone will blow the Nishan Maru into oblivion while it sits at the dock.

Where does this hatred come from? It's not a pleasant sight.

Since that would be an illegal act you might be in violation of the MA for expressing it.

 

[NoahFence]

Where does this hatred come from? It's not a pleasant sight.

Since that would be an illegal act you might be in violation of the MA for expressing it.

"At the dock" was implying there would be nobody on it.

And it stems from their hatred of the natural world. Someone has to defend it. I only wish I had a 10th of the seeds that these people have - and no bills to pay.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

"At the dock" was implying there would be nobody on it.

And it stems from their hatred of the natural world. Someone has to defend it. I only wish I had a 10th of the seeds that these people have - and no bills to pay.

Even "At the dock" there's going to be people aboard. This isn't some small pleasure craft moored in your local marina.

And how do you know that they hate the natural world? I know plenty of people who like to go out deep sea fishing that don't care if they come back with nothing because they got to spend some time enjoying the "Natural world" as you put it. Hell sometimes they even throw back what they caught while they were out there.

 

[NoahFence]

OK..

DRY dock. With nobody on it. Or within 2 miles of it. Tow it out to sea and make it an artificial reef.

Recycle it for Pepsi cans. I don't give a : just get rid of it.

And how do you know that they hate the natural world? I know plenty of people who like to go out deep sea fishing that don't care if they come back with nothing because they got to spend some time enjoying the "Natural world" as you put it.

it's a floating slaugherhouse. I can't even imagine the conditions inside that thing... Not a good comparison.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Even a ship in dry dock is going to have people on it. Plus with it being in a dry dock there's really no damage that someone can do that can't be repaired. Look at the USS Miami fire. That's a lot more packed with gear than any surface ship will ever be and they are going to repair it.

As to it being a floating slaughterhouse I have some news for you. Just about everything that you eat required something else to die. Yes even some of your veggies. Modern harvesting methods mean that field mice and rabbits will get killed in horrible ways. Unless you only eat hand harvested vegetables and nothing with grain or grain based products (including anything with HFCS in it which is just about everything nowadays) I don't think that anyone has a right to complain about the deaths of animals for food. Life and death is a big part of the "Natural world".

That doesn't mean that I think that whaling is the best idea ever but if the whaling is being done on a species like the Minke (which is not endangered) then I really can't find a good reason for halting it and certainly can't find a good reason for endangering other humans lives and property over it.

 

[NoahFence]

Even a ship in dry dock is going to have people on it.

See, now you know I'm trying to say scuttle the damn thing without hurting anybody, and you continue. Meh...

Plus with it being in a dry dock there's really no damage that someone can do that can't be repaired. Look at the USS Miami fire. That's a lot more packed with gear than any surface ship will ever be and they are going to repair it.

maybe not.

As to it being a floating slaughterhouse I have some news for you. Just about everything that you eat required something else to die.

I'm sure they did. But I'm not basically comparing a slaughterhouse on land to a horse and buggy ride through the farm, as you did with your floating slaughterhouse = deep sea fishing trip comparison.

Yes even some of your veggies. Modern harvesting methods mean that field mice and rabbits will get killed in horrible ways. Unless you only eat hand harvested vegetables and nothing with grain or grain based products (including anything with HFCS in it which is just about everything nowadays) I don't think that anyone has a right to complain about the deaths of animals for food. Life and death is a big part of the "Natural world".

Point me toward the illegal farming of veggies in a protected veggie area, and we'll have an apt comparison. Thanks!

That doesn't mean that I think that whaling is the best idea ever but if the whaling is being done on a species like the Minke (which is not endangered) then I really can't find a good reason for halting it and certainly can't find a good reason for endangering other humans lives and property over it.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Monza]

"The Nisshin Maru is guilty of piracy, violence against the crew of a sea vessel endangering safe navigation and the destruction of Sea Shepherd vessels; all three punishable offences under the Dutch Criminal Code," Zegveld said in a statement.

uhmm... Doesn't Sea Shepard have a TV show where they document themselves doing exactly this?

 

[ddt]

In an ideal world, someone will blow the Nishan Maru into oblivion while it sits at the dock.

The French Secret Service is good at that.

(which also goes to show that you can blow up a ship (a) without deaths (the photographer who died was not on board at the time but went back to try salvage his equipment), and (b) with enough damage the ship can't be salvaged.