Merged Bigfoot follies

[Volsquatch]

Well we kind of did do that during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, actually. Our state of Pennsylvania is today about 75% forested and for all we know was maybe 90% or more forested at the dawn of European settlement. In 1920, however, it was only about 25% forested. So we're talking about a massive reversal of vegetation cover from forest to non-forest, most of which was in agriculture, coal mines, and on steeper rocky slopes, regenerating forest. Most of that forest wasn't just cut, it was cut and settled.

This was also a period of history in which elk, cougars, wolves, and - almost - white-tailed deer - were extirpated from the state.

Who needs vegetation? You didn't take into account the vast underground habitat in Pennsylvania.

No, seriously.

 

[The Shrike]

^Whoa. There are some substantial deficits on display there.

 

[The Shrike]

Michigan was a virtual clearcut.

Dude, Pennsylvania was so bad they had to go to Michigan to get deer to start restocking.

Just think of all the poor, deerless squatches that starved to death during the winter of 1922 . . .

 

[clayflingythingy]

Shrike,

We've gone over all this before but the bleevers don't listen. I seem to recall you posted a study by the University of Kentucky showing how fragmented KY forests were becoming after I pointed out the whole darn state was logged from one end to the other and that today's KY forests have largely come back since the end of WWII.

Yet, there are KY pancake eating BF's. There are BF's in the LBL. BF's are apparently to be found all over the state. This despite the fact that KY is a big outdoor recreation state and there is nowhere in the state that can be considered remote and that today's deer & elk herds & turkey flocks are here only becuase of restocking efforts.

Bleevers can't be bothered to actually THINK. They just parrot what other bleevers say.

 

[RedRatSnake]

Some of those new trees are actually Bigfoot's, you need to look and watch if they sway, the ones that sway on a calm day are confused BF trying to look like trees, the ones that sway on a windy day could be smart BF or just real trees, it's really very simple.

Tim

 

[jerrywayne]

Shrike,

We've gone over all this before but the bleevers don't listen. I seem to recall you posted a study by the University of Kentucky showing how fragmented KY forests were becoming after I pointed out the whole darn state was logged from one end to the other and that today's KY forests have largely come back since the end of WWII.

Yet, there are KY pancake eating BF's. There are BF's in the LBL. BF's are apparently to be found all over the state. This despite the fact that KY is a big outdoor recreation state and there is nowhere in the state that can be considered remote and that today's deer & elk herds & turkey flocks are here only becuase of restocking efforts.

Bleevers can't be bothered to actually THINK. They just parrot what other bleevers say.

Not to mention large armies tramping throughout the state. Not one Bigfoot spooked up and shot.

http://www.nps.gov/hps/abpp/battles/kymap.htm

 

[Resume]

Not to mention large armies tramping throughout the state. Not one Bigfoot spooked up and shot.

http://www.nps.gov/hps/abpp/battles/kymap.htm

The took the Underground Railroad outta Dodge.

 

[DennyT]

Dude, Pennsylvania was so bad they had to go to Michigan to get deer to start restocking.

Just think of all the poor, deerless squatches that starved to death during the winter of 1922 . . .

You "DUDED" me!!??

According to Moneymaker, the squatches would have gone for the cows at that point. tit for tat.

I'm pretty sure that didn't happen...BRO!

 

[GT/CS]

I don't know if you've noticed, but they don't actually cut all of the North American tree cover down at the same time.

Of all the arguments you've used, this is probably the weakest.

Back in the '60s they cut it all and left it completely bare.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://www.foresthistory.org/ASPNET/Publications/region/5/six_rivers/contents.htm

There were massive logging efforts going on there the whole time, pretty much.

There were also massive floods at times, and massive reforestation efforts.

Roads were being cut, phone lines and power lines being put in, forest service buildings being built, lookout towers going up, etc.

 

[Resume]

http://www.foresthistory.org/ASPNET/Publications/region/5/six_rivers/contents.htm

There were massive logging efforts going on there the whole time, pretty much.

There were also massive floods at times, and massive reforestation efforts.

Roads were being cut, phone lines and power lines being put in, forest service buildings being built, lookout towers going up, etc.

In the U.S., 95% of the old growth logged; yet not one Bigfoot bagged as it happened. http://atlas.aaas.org/index.php?part=2&sec=eco&sub=forests

Seems odd, unlikely. I think you'd need a paranormal footie.

 

[The Shrike]

You "DUDED" me!!??

Ha ha. I've got a grad student who spoke that way all the time, and he was in for a visit yesterday. He used to call me "Papa Bear" too which sounds creepy but the way he did it just cracked me up every time.

Yah, these are the conversations that really make the footers uneasy. If they acknowledge the settlement history of the Lower 48 and especially east of the Mississippi, they get locked into a "PNW or nothing" mentality. Then the cognitive dissonance starts to grow, because they have to explain somehow the hundreds of bigfoot reports from the eastern U.S., and that the evidence from the East is no worse than the evidence from the PNW. Aha! But they have one piece of evidence from the PNW that supercedes all others: Roger's bloody film. So they get painted into a corner in which the PGF has to be legitimate, and they build from there.

 

[OntarioSquatch]

Since when did it become a fact that deer are the only food in a Sasquatches diet?

Here is a list of mammals in Pennsylvania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Pennsylvania

 

[River]

Since when did it become a fact that deer are the only food in a Sasquatches diet?

Here is a list of mammals in Pennsylvania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Pennsylvania

Sasquatches only diet is brain cells.

 

[Resume]

Since when did it become a fact that deer are the only food in a Sasquatches diet?

Here is a list of mammals in Pennsylvania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Pennsylvania

This is true. A made-up animal can have any diet you'd like.

 

[The Shrike]

Since when did it become a fact that deer are the only food in a Sasquatches diet?

Here is a list of mammals in Pennsylvania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Pennsylvania

Oh thank goodness. Now I know that those little diggings I find in the mountains are actually bigfoots digging Synaptomys from their burrows!

 

[LTC8K6]

Since when did it become a fact that deer are the only food in a Sasquatches diet?

Here is a list of mammals in Pennsylvania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Pennsylvania

I think Matt Moneymaker essentially said so on national television and in print. They crave deer liver and deer marrow, apparently.

Not their only source of food, but a large part of their diet.

They apparently kill a few deer, take the livers and marrow, and stack the carcasses here and there.

 

[Drewbot]

Check out this excerpt, which details an area in Northern Clare County Michigan.
http://bluelemon.me/2012/08/17/gerrish-and-his-logging-railroad-part-2/
This is one tiny little railroad in Clare County
To make it clear, here is a map of all the railroads in Clare County during the logging of the county.
http://michiganmarty.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/clare-railroads-web.jpg

The camp was started in 1870, and with its cluster of log shanties, blacksmith shop, railroad buildings, etc., it looks very much like a busy and permanent village, The little lumber railroad which passes through it and is the pioneer railroad of that kind, is now about 13 miles long and strikes the Muskegon River about 18 miles above Evart and about 40 miles below Houghton Lake.

It was begun in September 1870; the first locomotive arrived November of that year, the second in November 1877, and the third in January 1878, The first two were “poled” up the Muskegon on rafts from Evart, and the last was run through the woods from Farwell, feats in engineering, which the old-fashioned lumberman ridiculed as impossible. The main road has four switches, two train dispatchers, and a telephone running its whole length, by which the engineers receive their orders at each switch, and the trains are run with the regularity of clockwork.

Each locomotive draws thirteen cars, and is kept running night and day, the three trains putting into the river 24 loads every 24 hours, or about 400,000 feet a day. Three men run each train, three remain on the river bank to unload, and 16 to 18 remain at the skidways to load, Each crew is on duty 12 hours, when it is relieved by a second crew for twelve hours, and so they alternate the season through, no train being delayed for meals or any other purpose. Over 50,000,000 feet have been put into the river over tills road this season, and from present appearances the cars will be kept running all summer.

Want to know what logging did to the landscape?
I'd recommend going to this website, http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/whitepine-logging.html
and looking at this picture http://www.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/images/logsleds-1892.jpg

 

[The Shrike]

^ Very cool, Drew.

 

[Drewbot]

Not much room for a rabbit, let alone a Bigfoot.
Surely one would have gotten clobbered by all of those small gauge railroads, or had a couple of ripe berries, and darted infront of a horse team on an ice road.