aggle-rithm
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Do you have any claims backed up by anything more substantial than a picture of a Disney character?
JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends
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Do you have any claims backed up by anything more substantial than a picture of a Disney character?
Tomtomkent
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Well you were the one who posted about LHOs fingerprints having been taken several times in a post about the palm print.… should the palmprint be considered a fingerprint or was there a legitimate reason to take the palm print post mortem? Please make up your mind if the palm print can be conflated with fingerprints or not. I am happy to talk in your terms but you will have to be consistant. Given this post you seem to retract the discussion from crossfire as irrelevant and (falling into my devious trap) admit that regardless of how many times Oswald had his fingerprints taken a palm print would not have been on the record card meaning there was a good reason to use ink to obtain a comparrison print?
I apologise to other posters for the cheap bait and lure, but i suspect this is the only way to get a definitive statement from robert on this key issue.
As you have no evidence of any intelligence agency framing oswald as a patsy I see no reason to see the simplest explanation as per occams razor as anything other than LHO beinfg the fantasist he appears to be. You seem to have missed the point that calling him a patsy adds further complications. Never mind.
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..on the other hand, don't the conspiracists ever get frustrated that after 50 years the "real truth" will never be known and no conspirators ever caught?
And give up on their shot of fame and fortune?
Think about it for a second. Anyone that could actually crack this case with a legitimate conspiracy for go down in history.
That is why the counsel employed by the WC WANTED this to be a conspiracy. They would be known forever.
What has happened over the years, of course, is that the JFK CT movement has been hijacked by loons who have too many people involved, shooting from too many places and with too many connections.
It is possible that Oswald was taking cues directly or not from someone else, but that is doubtful.
Trusting Jack Ruby to be a conspirator is also pretty silly. The man couldn't keep a secret to save his life.
After 50 years, we know that no part of Oswald's story that day does not check out.
While Robert just trolls around looking for holes in the story, it is important as technology improves to keep double checking and educate others on what happened that day as best we can.
The bottom line is we can never be 100% sure that there was no conspiracy, but, at this point, I think we are at 99.5%.
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It's kinda funny that RP posts a pic of Pinocchio right underneath his own lies. Isn't it self defeating to admit it right away?
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In his case, he's gone all-in pre-flop holding an off-suit 29.
Kind of hard to be even remotely right when there is absolutely no narrative. We aren't even at the broken watch stage with him.
But, you are correct. He'll take that millimeter and grind another 30-40 pages of nothing but handwaves, posts that look like they were translated by Google Translate and denials.
If the Hughes film just kept shooting a bit higher, we would have the answer.
Robert Prey
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Sure. Ask and you shall receive. FBI fingerprint expert testified that latent fingerprints could not be identified.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Tp...age&q=latona, no identifiable prints&f=false
The Oswald palm print was planted by the FBI at the funeral home.
"Miller Funeral Home director Paul Groody told this author that the FBI fingerprinted Oswald's corpse. Groody said 'I had a heck of time getting the black fingerprint ink off of Oswald's hands.' In 1978, FBI agent Richard Harrison confirmed to researcher Gary Mack that he had personally driven another Bureau agent and the 'Oswald' rifle to the Miller Funeral Home. Harrison said at the time he understood that the other agent intended to place Oswald's palm print on the rifle 'for comparison purposes.' Oswald had been fingerprinted three times while alive and in Dallas police custody. There has been no explanation for this postmortem fingerprinting."-- from "Crossfire" by Jim Mars
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Tomtomkent
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Please explain how a latent print was planted on the rifle by a palm that was no longer exceting moisture.
RoboTimbo
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Nope. It wasn't.
JayUtah
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Cherry pick. The same expert then testified that the latent palm print could be identified.
Affirmative claim. You've gone from saying there were no prints to saying there were prints, but then speculating some other way they got there.
Lame.
Liam
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But after all this time nobody is going to come up with anything new.
The JFK lot are probably no different to all the other conspiracy theorists I suppose, the "official version" just can't be right so they'll waste their time on every other theory going.
JayUtah
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Asked and answered back in November 2011. Are you really intending to repeat all the intervening 200 pages of your nonsense, evasion, and bluster?
aggle-rithm
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I love it when conspiracy theorists put two sources in the same quote that contradict each other. Cherry picking at its finest!
In the link provided, the FBI fingerprint expert said that the poor condition of the wood and metal in the rifle made it extremely unlikely that a clear fingerprint would be left.
Then an un-named agent went back and somehow got a palm print from a dead Oswald on that same rifle.
You are absolutely right. Look at the garbage in this thread.
No matter what CT you are hunting down, regardless of the issue, most can never wrap their heads around the simple explanation being the right one. With JFK, why couldn't it just be "the silly little communist"?
There are some cases in history that baffle me, but this is not one of them. It really was the silly little communist.
Robert Prey
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The former marine, Naval intell radar operator at the top secret U2 base at Asugi, Japan, American Double Agent, fake defector, anti-Castro gun runner along with associate, Jack Ruby, and CIA and FBI operative, Lee Oswald was hardly silly, and never a Communist. Get your facts straight.
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Robert Prey
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Only if the questions keep repeating from low information posters and worth repeating:
Obtaining Prints of Deceased Persons
http://library.enlisted.info/field-m...M19_20/CH7.PDF
"Major case prints are always obtained of
deceased persons connected with an
investigation..."
"Printing deceased persons may be done
before rigor mortis has set in, after rigor
mortis, or after decomposition has begun."
"You might dust the
fingers and palms with fingerprint powder
and lift the prints with tape or rubber lifters."
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Robert Prey
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"Simple" Sheeple wrap their heads around anything some figure or agency of authority tells them.
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