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[asydhouse]

Awake Christians are aware of this Satanic agenda of the left. Attempting to force their anti-God immorality on an unsuspecting world , and using anti-discrimination laws and the courts in their attempts to do so.

And now you really are demonstrating that your brain is made of putty!

I was advocating discriminating against religious people, <SNIP> ! It's the anti-discrimination values of our secular enlightenment which values individual liberty and respects the autonomy of each individual's mind which has produced our culture's laudable efforts against the discrimination I would like to see enacted against you taliban types!

You have really shown what a little machine of rote mindless propaganda for a lying ugly god you really are, Janadelle. With this travesty of expression and incomprehension, you have become indistinguishable from a troll!

(Hint: a troll is 1. someone putting a point of view so untenable that they are actually satirising the position they are pretending to espouse, or 2. someone just saying things to provoke, whether they believe them or not.)

If you can explain how anti-discrimination laws "force immorality on" you, I'd like to hear it.

Come on. Explain your bizarre assertion that anyone is forcing immorality on you.

I'll bet you a pizza you can't do it.

(In fact I would bet a million dollars, because the only people who would come up with the idea that anyone would want to "force immorality" on society would be religious fanatics like yourself and the taliban. People on the left are concerned with maintaining the gains in true morality our culture has made through moving away from mindless allegiance to the illogical strictions of Church(es), and people on the right (such as your church) are too busy making money to care about morality at all.)

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Edited for civility.

 

[pakeha]

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I see you brought back zero tolerance for scammers with you from India.

I think you need to check your Bible. That guy who was telling us not to discriminate, against people like lepers, the poor, "fallen" women, Samaritans... was not Satan.

However, the guy who offered Jesus political power over the world's governments (as in, their laws and courts) -- that was Satan.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Ouch.

 

[Janadele]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

 

[Marcus]

There is no god, satan or any of it. Why should I allow you to trample my human rights?

No matter how many time you say it, Believers never seem to understand that Satan is a purely religious concept, an atheist is not going to believe in their supervillans any more than their superheros.

 

[Craig4]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

What are you talking about? The Old Testament is full of the basest sort of immorality. God kills millions in a flood. Sodam and Gamora got burnt along with its citizens. There's that sick practical joke with Abraham almost stabbing his son to death. What sort of morality is this? What is it you find so admirable in this psycho killer?

ETA: Oh and he picked a couple of real sociopaths to start your religion when they weren't busy doinking the daughters of the "faithful".

 

[Wolrab]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

Exactly. Immorality like getting a 14 year old girl to sleep with you by being an authority figure and telling her that her family can be ensured their place in eternity if only she has sex with you.

Immoral like lying that you can translate hieroglyphics into something they are not.

Evil like using witching stones to corrupt the bible.

Wickedness like racism because a black man and a white woman fell in love.

 

[RandFan]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

You are preaching. That's not an argument. It's just rhetoric.

 

[Akhenaten]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

O rly?

Exodus 32 :27-28

²⁷ Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’”

²⁸ The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.​

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That is immoral.

2 Kings 2:24

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.​

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That is evil.

That is wicked.

 

[asydhouse]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

You've never read the old testament have you? That psychopathic god is the epitome of evil. The whole black magic rigmarole of sacrificing jesus is a travesty of morality tales. Your book of mormon is nothing but war porn.

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Edited for Rules 0 and 12

 

[Craig4]

Oh, and for the record, arranging for you own child to be tortured and murdered, in addition to being immoral is a total dick move.

 

[zooterkin]

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That is wicked.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[Akhenaten]

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

All things truly wicked start from innocence.

- Ernest Hemingway​

 

[Pup]

Exactly. Immorality like getting a 14 year old girl to sleep with you by being an authority figure and telling her that her family can be ensured their place in eternity if only she has sex with you.

Immoral like lying that you can translate hieroglyphics into something they are not.

Evil like using witching stones to corrupt the bible.

Wickedness like racism because a black man and a white woman fell in love.

One of these things is not like the other.

As much as I think that fan fiction is 99% utter trash and people should come up with their own original ideas, I wouldn't put writing fan fiction on the same level of evil as lying, racism or sexual predation.

 

[RandFan]

One of these things is not like the other.

As much as I think that fan fiction is 99% utter trash and people should come up with their own original ideas, I wouldn't put writing fan fiction on the same level of evil as lying, racism or sexual predation.

Telling people that you "translated" the book from gold plates and using that to defraud people of their money and to control them, well, that's pretty bad. You don't seriously think Smith was simply writing fan fiction do you? Conversely, do you think anyone writing fan fiction is doing it to defraud and control people?

 

[tsig]

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I believe he publishes in Squid Fishing Monthly a semi-periodic magazine that is distributed telepathically*.

*_{void where prohibited by law}

 

[Mister Earl]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

Let's be honest here for a moment. You have no idea what Jesus, nor god, is for or against. You have only the word of others and your own belief. By making statements like that is if it were fact hurts your credibility. You would do better to say, "It is commonly believed..." or "I believe...".

No matter how many times you tell yourself or someone else something is true, doesn't make it true. Or even true-er.

 

[Pup]

Telling people that you "translated" the book from gold plates and using that to defraud people of their money and to control them, well, that's pretty bad. You don't seriously think Smith was simply writing fan fiction do you? Conversely, do you think anyone writing fan fiction is doing it to defraud and control people?

The specific claim was "corrupt the bible," not defraud or control people. Lots of people use the Bible itself, as written, to defraud and control people, so I don't see any distinction there.

I don't believe it's evil to "corrupt" the Bible, whatever that means, and I'd suggest that only those who believe the Bible to be holy would think it is. It really does sound like a fan-fiction charge: "That's not in the canon! Sherlock Holmes never fell in love with Moriarty. You're corrupting the original!"

 

[RandFan]

The specific claim was "corrupt the bible," not defraud or control people. Lots of people use the Bible itself, as written, to defraud and control people, so I don't see any distinction there.

I don't believe it's evil to "corrupt" the Bible, whatever that means, and I'd suggest that only those who believe the Bible to be holy would think it is. It really does sound like a fan-fiction charge: "That's not in the canon! Sherlock Holmes never fell in love with Moriarty. You're corrupting the original!"

I took it as intentional deception in order to further his fraud. If the poster believes that smith is immoral because he corrupted a sacred text then I would agree with you. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure that Smith's use of seer stones was to defraud people.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

So what about when YHWH orders people to kill their daughters for choosing to have sex, or kill family members for suggesting you join another religion?

 

[pakeha]

Immorality, evil and wickedness has always been against Eternal Law and the Gospel of Jesus Christ... and always will be, and has never been condoned or accepted by God.

Hi, Janadele.
Could you explain what 'Eternal Law' refers to, please?

The specific claim was "corrupt the bible," not defraud or control people. Lots of people use the Bible itself, as written, to defraud and control people, so I don't see any distinction there.

I don't believe it's evil to "corrupt" the Bible, whatever that means, and I'd suggest that only those who believe the Bible to be holy would think it is. It really does sound like a fan-fiction charge: "That's not in the canon! Sherlock Holmes never fell in love with Moriarty. You're corrupting the original!"

Hi, Pup.
Isn't the Book of Abraham a corruption of the OT foisted on his followers by Smith?
I think the real subject here is scamming, don't you?
In this case, pretending to translate papyrus texts or 'gold plates' to manipulate the vulnerable.