Merged No Planer calls for scientific study / Missiles of 9/11

[Animal]

I have already explained how the water can cut steel - by using a tiny aperature placed very close to the steel and very high PRESSURE, the integrity of the column of water is kept intact long enough to overcome the steel, but often a water jet needs aprasives added to the water to cut thicker plate.

However a jet is not a water jet, is it?

<snicker> Here that whooshing sound? that is basic physics passing far over your head. Another failure for the school of hard knocks.

 

[MileHighMadness]

yankee451 is never going to raise the money to do this test, and he knows it. So what is the next best thing...get on the internet and talk about it.

You never have to worry about being proved wrong, if you never run the test.

It is a lot like David Ray Griffin talking about an independent investigation, but never making an effort to raise money to do one.

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

I like how not one of you has been able to back up anything you say.

No you don't and yes we have

 

[Animal]

You'll find no support here, go back to bowels of the David Icke Forum and take Mr Moore with you.

I always find it comical when a troofer educated in the "school of hard knocks" comes in here after all these years and expects structural engineers, architects, pilots, radar operators, mechanical engineers, ex military, etc. etc. all just to say "okay we accept your woo" simply because of their foot stomping.

 

[Spanx]

Per your recommendation, I'll use a section from the engine out.

Well if your going to go on my recommendation then I suggest full size.

 

[fitzgibbon]

Well if your going to go on my recommendation then I suggest full size.

Seconded. Go big or go home, I say. Of course, in this case I'm partial to the latter coarse of action but what the hey.....?

Fitz

 

[Spanx]

Seconded. Go big or go home, I say. Of course, in this case I'm partial to the latter coarse of action but what the hey.....?

Fitz

All we need to do now is find a way of doing it on the cheap.

Have you got any friends who are terrorists ?

 

[LSSBB]

Question for the class -

Is this model an accurate prediction of the failure of an exterior column?
[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/square-box-.png[/qimg]

Anyone? Can anyone explain how that square box represents the actual construction of the towers:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/column-cross-section-page-451.png[/qimg]

For extra credit you can show me where their calculations explain this damage:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/left-side-dents1.jpg[/qimg]

Question for you: how did they get dented?

 

[yankee451]

Question for you: how did they get dented?

You tell me - use your math to demonstrate how the jet wing caused it.

 

[fess]

Nor 100,000 tons of structural steel. Don't mention that. Ever.

So, there was 100,000 tons of structural steel… right in the area that the jets struck? More failed knowledge I might add.

 

[fess]

Figured out how fast a jet would have to go to pierce the exterior walls of the twin towers, or bore through the brick and concrete walls of the pentagon, or burrow into the hard, dry, rocky soil of Shanksville yet? To all of you losers, I'll repeat:

Until any single one of you can mathematically demonstrate how the jet's wing could slice through the 14 inch steel box columns with two sharp leading edges each, in addition to the 52 inch steel spandrels behind them, and the alleged concrete floor behind that, you are in no position to demand anything of me.

When it comes to working towards definitively proving whether 9/11 could have possibly occurred as we saw on the TeeVee, I'm light years ahead Purdue, MIT and certainly any of you lot.

More proof that your self taught education failed drastically.

 

[phunk]

Figured out how fast a jet would have to go to pierce the exterior walls of the twin towers, or bore through the brick and concrete walls of the pentagon, or burrow into the hard, dry, rocky soil of Shanksville yet?

To all of you losers, I'll repeat:

Until any single one of you can mathematically demonstrate how the jet's wing could slice through the 14 inch steel box columns with two sharp leading edges each, in addition to the 52 inch steel spandrels behind them, and the alleged concrete floor behind that, you are in no position to demand anything of me.

When it comes to working towards definitively proving whether 9/11 could have possibly occurred as we saw on the TeeVee, I'm light years ahead Purdue, MIT and certainly any of you lot.

Of course, you realize, that most of the columns weren't "sliced through", rather they were bent and the connections between segments broke, right?

 

[beachnut]

Of course, you realize, that most of the columns weren't "sliced through", rather they were bent and the connections between segments broke, right?

He forgot to look.

He posted his own rebuttal, but can't understand the math, or it that it debunks him. Slaps down his crazy claims with the Hard Knock School of Reality and Physics.

http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact.pdf

What is hilarious, he adds notes to this for what he thinks is rational thought.

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chapter-IV-Aircraft-Impact.pdf

Better copy this pdf, before 451 wakes up from the fantasy; it would be great to show why someone would want to take physics and higher math, so they don't spread ignorance freely without thinking.

 

[yankee451]

Of course, you realize, that most of the columns weren't "sliced through", rather they were bent and the connections between segments broke, right?

Right side of north tower gash:

Left side of north tower gash:

 

[LSSBB]

Right side of north tower gash:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/sliced-steel.jpg[/qimg]

Left side of north tower gash:

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/broken-spandrel.png[/qimg]

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Wing-placement-on-the-wall.png[/qimg]

Nice picture. Looks like a plane went trough it. Any proof there wasn't a plane?

 

[beachnut]

Nice picture. Looks like a plane went trough it. Any proof there wasn't a plane?

He keeps debunking himself.

He posted the math too.
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter IV Aircraft Impact.pdf

MIT proves his claim is nuts. He posted the MIT paper as proof he is right. Logic, not used when slinging extra stupid BS.

 

[yankee451]

Nice picture. Looks like a plane went trough it.

Then use your words to explain how.

Any proof there wasn't a plane?

You mean other than the measurements of the holes compared to the measurements of a jet, the mass and construction of the impacting bodies and the density of materials? Why yes I do, but until you get past 9/11 101 you can't move on to the advanced studies.

 

[fitzgibbon]

nvrmnd. yankee re-posted his own self-debunk with elaboration in post 1357

Fitz

 

[Mudcat]

If it was not an aircraft impacting the WTC than what else could it have been? That's all that there's evidence for.

 

[beachnut]

Then use your words to explain how.




You mean other than the measurements of the holes compared to the measurements of a jet, the mass and construction of the impacting bodies and the density of materials? Why yes I do, but until you get past 9/11 101 you can't move on to the advanced studies.

The impact on the WTC is exactly the size of a 767. You keep insisting on debunking your insane claims. Why do you forget to measure?

You proves a 767 hit. And the RADAR data, and the physics of the impact confirm your photos. You have done it, debunked your fantasy.

You posted the math too.
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter IV Aircraft Impact.pdf