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There is more than one "Adam", and more than one Universe. This however is not our concern, our concern is with this earth, and with the parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which pertain to it, and which are necessary for our individual progression.
 
That might be your concern, but my concern at the moment is attempting to have a discussion on the subject of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, per the thread title. It is difficult to have a discussion with copypasta.

So what is your opinion about the anachronisms of the BoM and whether they discredit your religion?
 
Janadele said:
There is more than one "Adam", and more than one Universe. This however is not our concern, our concern is with this earth, and with the parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which pertain to it, and which are necessary for our individual progression.
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Well right now I am concerned with the part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that states that dark skin is a curse from God. Why won't you address this issue?
 
Janadele said:
There is more than one "Adam", and more than one Universe. This however is not our concern, our concern is with this earth, and with the parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which pertain to it, and which are necessary for our individual progression.
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...So when, in your opinion, did the "Eve" and "Adam" of this universe live? (And, jfg, what evidence do you provide for your claim that there are, in fact, multiple universes,and that, in more than one of them, an "Eve" and an "Adam" exist?)

...And when, in your opinion did the Noachian Flood of this universe take place?

...And where, in your opinion, can the "International Internet Laws" of this universe, with which you claim experience, and which you claim have been violated in this thread, be found?

...And what honor is brought to your cause, and your mission, in this universe, by your obdurate refusal to engage?
 
Janadele said:
There is more than one "Adam", and more than one Universe. This however is not our concern, our concern is with this earth, and with the parts of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which pertain to it, and which are necessary for our individual progression.
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Who does "our" refer to? Why did you capitalize "universe"?

In any case, did Jesus die for the sins of those in the other universe(s)? Was there one Adam for each universe or did ours do for all of them? Do the Mormons have churches there? Emissaries? Missionaries?

Tell us more in your own words.

ETA: I'm also concerned that Slowvehicle is going to wear out his/her Ctrl V keys so you could please answer his/her questions in your own words. Thanks.
 
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AdMan said:
Do you really think you are convincing anybody, rather than simply turning people even more away from all that crap?
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Janadele accuses posters who politely point to well established historical and scientific facts of anti-Mormon propaganda, but surely her own posts are the best anti-Mormon propaganda imaginable. No-one could read the reams of piffle she copypastes and take her church seriously.
 
Another reference to the Ten Tribes being in the land of the North:

Doctrine&Covenants 110:11 After this vision closed, the Heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the North.
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-tes...c/133?lang=eng
 
Janadele said:
Another reference to the Ten Tribes being in the land of the North:

Doctrine&Covenants 110:11 After this vision closed, the Heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the North.
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-tes...c/133?lang=eng
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More nonsense spouted by a brainwashed human robot who's incapable of free thought, as is obvious. The Mormon Church is a cult that will deprive you of free thought. Stay clear!
 
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Janadele said:
Matthew 7:6

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/7.6?lang=eng#5
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Aha. So you come to a skeptic's forum, start a thread on the subject of the LDS church and its teachings, and when people start asking hard questions, your response is "Naughty, naughty, little piggies!! No pearls for you!!"

Well, this little piggy would like to know why she shouldn't do everything in her power to point out the false nature of your religion, which she sees as inherently racist, sexist, and homophobic.
 
More references on the "Lost Tribes":
1:315, History of the Church, the Prophet Joseph Smith said: "...now I am prepared to say by the authority of Jesus Christ, that not many years shall pass away before the United States shall present such a scene of bloodshed as has not a parallel in the history of our nation; pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquake will sweep the wicked of this generation from off the face of this land, to open and prepare the way for the return of the lost tribes of Israel from the north country."

John Whitmer said: "The Spirit of the Lord fell upon Joseph in an unusual manner, and he Prophesied that John the Revelator was then among the Ten Tribes of Israel who had been led away by Shalmanezer, king of Assyria, to prepare them for their return from their long dispersion, to again possess the land of their fathers."
As per Revelation 10:11 http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng
 
Janadele said:
Another reference to the Ten Tribes being in the land of the North
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There's an awful lot of land which is North of Israel. Some of it even has glaciers.

Whatever land of the North you believe was being referred to, do you accept that one obvious attribute would be that it is indeed land, and not ocean?

Do you now appreciate that the notion of the earth being hollow and inhabited is a silly nonsense which never made logical sense and has long since been debunked by actual seismological evidence?
 
AdMan said:
Are all LDS members brainwashed human robots unable to have an actual discussion but simply programmed to push their cult's beliefs, like you appear to be?
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No. Witness Cat Tale.

But you're right - her robotic answers are no more than tiresome now.
 
Janadele said:
More references on the "Lost Tribes":
1:315, History of the Church, the Prophet Joseph Smith said: "...now I am prepared to say by the authority of Jesus Christ, that not many years shall pass away before the United States shall present such a scene of bloodshed as has not a parallel in the history of our nation; pestilence, hail, famine, and earthquake will sweep the wicked of this generation from off the face of this land, to open and prepare the way for the return of the lost tribes of Israel from the north country."

John Whitmer said: "The Spirit of the Lord fell upon Joseph in an unusual manner, and he Prophesied that John the Revelator was then among the Ten Tribes of Israel who had been led away by Shalmanezer, king of Assyria, to prepare them for their return from their long dispersion, to again possess the land of their fathers."
As per Revelation 10:11 http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng
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Sounds like the North country is Assyria, then.

How many of these impossible things could you manage to believe before breakfast;

1) 10 tribes have been hiding out for centuries in northern Iraq. God plans to magic up a glacier for their spectacular reappearance.
2) Despite all evidence to the contrary, the earth is hollow, somehow habitable and supplied with light, air, and food. The 10 tribes travelled there through an entrance hidden somewhere at the bottom of the arctic ocean.

Seems to me not all crazy notions are equally crazy.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
There's an awful lot of land which is North of Israel. Some of it even has glaciers.

Whatever land of the North you believe was being referred to, do you accept that one obvious attribute would be that it is indeed land, and not ocean?

Do you now appreciate that the notion of the earth being hollow and inhabited is a silly nonsense which never made logical sense and has long since been debunked by actual seismological evidence?
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The Ten Tribes are a numerous civilisation. Located in the North. Yet in this day and age they are still not seen nor known of by the majority of the earth's inhabitants. Are they on a planet which has broken from the earth and appears to us as a northern star, are they within the earth, or are they kept from our sight in some other way? These are questions yet to be answered.
 
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