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Proof of Life After Death!!

Pajamas on amazon.com! I'm testing to see if I have psychic abilities. Queen of clubs!
 
The point Quarky is ...all the people here who think it is so easy to hack my credit card...tell me what I purchased...exactly what I purchased. Some answers...food...something on Amazon.com...those sound very James Van Praaghy to me.
 
Ok let's try this. I'm getting a sense of an older kitchen, not your home and a drawer in the kitchen that is filled the odd sorts of things. There are three things in that drawer that are of significance to your Nana, one of them is an old button. I'm not sure what the other two are yet. Is this ringing a bell?
 
truethat said:
Ok let's try this. I'm getting a sense of an older kitchen, not your home and a drawer in the kitchen that is filled the odd sorts of things. There are three things in that drawer that are of significance to your Nana, one of them is an old button. I'm not sure what the other two are yet. Is this ringing a bell?
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I have something in my right hand right now. Can you guess?
 
Thinking about Nana and the drawer I get the idea that the other thing in that drawer has to do with Christmas or Christ or something like that. Nana wants you to use it this year. She said she gave it to you and yet you haven't used it right. I'm getting an image of string as well. Twine something else that is part of the drawer thing.
 
See, my point, and truethat's as well, was that one can go around yelling "You bought pajamas on amazon.com!" for a while and eventually be right. The reason that will eventually work is that it's Christmastime, and lots of people have a tradition of buying pajamas at this time of year. If I don't want people to notice that I'm just trying to read them, I can do one of two things: I can start small and say "Something for the holiday season"; or I can just switch up what the item is and keep it one that I know people are buying right now. iPads, iPhones, Christmas trees, holiday decorations - hell, I can even go to amazon.com and see what they have on sale for Cyber Monday and keep in mind a list of ten things. Eventually, if I keep going, something is going to stick with SOMEONE. And the thing is, even with the people where it doesn't stick, I can make it work.

Me (Knowing that a vast portion of the population either just bought a Christmas tree or is just about to): Did you buy a Christmas tree?

If you did just today, it's super impressive. If you did within the past two weeks, it's super impressive. If you didn't, you are either about to or already have one or have a poignant memory of one - even if you don't celebrate Christmas, you probably have one of, say, Rockefeller Plaza.

So if I'm really good, I can wriggle my way out of it no matter the response. If I'm really LUCKY, then you answer "Yes" to the very first question and BAM, you think I'm psychic.
 
SezMe said:
Seems odd that your father has three grandkids but wanted to talk about your refrigerator.
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Five grandkids, actually.

But yes, I'm sure the first thing on the deceased grandpa's mind was a refrigerator that one of his three kids may have purchased recently. I mean, geez, if I was dead and wanted to communicate with my living children, I would absolutely focus on something ridiculous like that, instead of, you know, just communicating my name and asking about the kids and grandkids using their names, for instance.
 
Now, let's think about refrigerators as well. Where could he have gone with refrigerator?

Well, parents put stuff their kids did on their refrigerators and he knew he was talking about a parent.

Him: Did you just buy a refrigerator?

You (in this fictional world): No.

Him: He keeps showing me a refrigerator. I'm not sure why. Did he put your things on the refrigerator when you got a good grade, or drew a picture? Because I'm seeing a refrigerator with fingerprints all over it.

See? In that context, a refrigerator with fingerprints all over it is an entirely different thing. Instead of the imagery of you buying a new refrigerator, it sounds a lot more like a fridge with children's fingerpaintings on it. Perhaps his surprise was at the fact that you did not take this obvious piece of bait (one that would have a high familial association) and instead went with the one you just bought.
 
RemieV said:
See, my point, and truethat's as well, was that one can go around yelling "You bought pajamas on amazon.com!" for a while and eventually be right. The reason that will eventually work is that it's Christmastime, and lots of people have a tradition of buying pajamas at this time of year. If I don't want people to notice that I'm just trying to read them, I can do one of two things: I can start small and say "Something for the holiday season"; or I can just switch up what the item is and keep it one that I know people are buying right now. iPads, iPhones, Christmas trees, holiday decorations - hell, I can even go to amazon.com and see what they have on sale for Cyber Monday and keep in mind a list of ten things. Eventually, if I keep going, something is going to stick with SOMEONE. And the thing is, even with the people where it doesn't stick, I can make it work.

Me (Knowing that a vast portion of the population either just bought a Christmas tree or is just about to): Did you buy a Christmas tree?

If you did just today, it's super impressive. If you did within the past two weeks, it's super impressive. If you didn't, you are either about to or already have one or have a poignant memory of one - even if you don't celebrate Christmas, you probably have one of, say, Rockefeller Plaza.

So if I'm really good, I can wriggle my way out of it no matter the response. If I'm really LUCKY, then you answer "Yes" to the very first question and BAM, you think I'm psychic.
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Again Robin pointed out that he seemed shocked when she said yes.
 
K you guys win...I'm outta here. Running, screaming to the land of believers! But it was fun while it lasted! Peace.
 
From someone who's been an amateur magician and mentalist for years, and who's dabbled in cold reading off and on as well, I have to say this has turned into a very cool thread. Thanks, RemieV for dropping by and adding your POV. Your experience in the MDC and alongside Randi and attending readings with Edward et al is invaluable. Thanks for sharing. Having been a believer long ago (as a kid, really), and having come to have a skeptic viewpoint through what I think is reason and evidence, I still find this kind of discussion fascinating.
 
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Robin Stettnisch said:
The point Quarky is ...all the people here who think it is so easy to hack my credit card...tell me what I purchased...exactly what I purchased. Some answers...food...something on Amazon.com...those sound very James Van Praaghy to me.
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Yeah, but I was right.
But even if I'm not, I had a fair chance.
The thing with data mining is that you need a good reason to employ those services. Most of it is done so that corporations can hone in on likely customers of their product. It's cost effective to know more about your customer base, even though you pay for the service.

No one here, hopefully, has any interest in poking into your data trail. It would be obnoxious and time consuming. I feel that the nasty cynics are more concerned in turning you on to some of the ways that various scams operate.

45 years ago, I stumbled onto a spiritual book. I wish I remembered its name.
One piece of advise it had that stuck with me all this time, regarding various healers and shamans and psychics: If any of them are real, they will take no money and they will shun fame.

I guess that's fairly moralistic, but I liked it then. It's still good today, for me.
Saves money; allows a niche for saints.

Selfless service is the stuff, whether you're on one end or the other of it.
Plumbers need to get paid.
Holy men need to not get paid, quite specifically. For them and for us.
 
Robin Stettnisch said:
K you guys win...I'm outta here. Running, screaming to the land of believers! But it was fun while it lasted! Peace.
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Robin, don't leave. I'm very cynical, and I sometimes make fun of the credulous. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I would give anything to communicate with my father, my grandparents, or the many friends and cousins whom I've personally lost.

We (and I don't like speaking for others because we all have our own minds) just need evidence. That's my mind, others might write more eloquently.
 
truethat said:
Thinking about Nana and the drawer I get the idea that the other thing in that drawer has to do with Christmas or Christ or something like that. Nana wants you to use it this year. She said she gave it to you and yet you haven't used it right. I'm getting an image of string as well. Twine something else that is part of the drawer thing.
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I getting the maid, in the basement with a death ray.
 
I'm actually completely serious. It's the picture that I got in my mind while reading her blog about Nana and the slippers. It would be interesting if it turned out to be a hit.
 
I see my dead father and brother all the time in my dreams. In the dreams, they aren't dead, and it's never an issue. We're all in the same state of being in those dreams.
 
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