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Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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I've been seeing ads on TV lately for lawyers trying to get women to join a class-action suit if they took meds like Paxil, Zoloft, Xanax, etc. (anti-depressants, for the most part) while pregnant and their child was born with birth defects or Autism.
So it seems the medical research continued in other directions after it dismissed the unsupported rantings of a huckster, just the way it's supposed to work.
 
So there are a large amount of "medical people" who know that MMR causes autism - and - "all world's medical gurus can't figure out why".

I can only guess from these two statement that "medical people" and "medical gurus" are two different groups, are you willing to define your terms here ?

Funny thing. I've asked him the same question. He dodged.
 
Clayton, name one. When we say medical people we mean real doctors and qualified researchers, not some woo on the net. I bet you are frantically googling even as I type.
 
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How about this guy? Is he a liar?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#Personal_life



Personal life

In 1986, Scarborough married Melanie Hinton. They had two sons, Joey and Andrew,[45] and divorced in 1999. His younger child was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes. While interviewing Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., in June 2005, Scarborough expressed concerns about the possibility that one of his sons may have suffered vaccine damage, perhaps attributable to the sharp increase during the 1980s in the amount of thimerosal injected into infants: "My son, born in 1991, has a slight form of autism called Asperger's. When I was practicing law and also when I was in Congress, parents would constantly come to me and they would bring me videotapes of their children, and they were all around the age of my son or younger. So, something happened in 1989."

http://www.care2.com/news/member/160802723/1220673
 
Lies of vaccine makers

Read between the lines and you will see a looming tag team of thieves and prevaricators. Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, nig vaccines, the scientific community that can't figure out the cause of GWS nor the cause of Autism, Wall Street, the crying of WMD, the fracking is safe people, democracy builders, Ground Zero was safe for first responders, and many more.



http://www.prisonplanet.com/lance-armstrong-and-americas-growing-culture-of-psychopathic-liars.html



That is precisely the attitude that’s destroying America at every level: Banking and finance, health care, politics, corporations and government. When people lie, cheat and steal for their own selfish gains — at the expense of others — everybody loses. That’s what Lance Armstrong did, and that’s why he is now the poster child of what’s deeply wrong in America today. When our leaders and champions are masters of lying and cheating instead of accomplished veterans of hard work and ethical behavior, we lose the very thing that once made America great. We lose our national soul, our credibility and our moral standing.

It is no coincidence that the American empire is now falling just as the Lance Armstrong empire has fallen. When we discard morals and operate with no respect for the truth, we inevitably erode the very foundations upon which we stand.
 
I don't care what you say in the forum.



Babies are over vaccinated.

Suppose your baby was coming down with something that will cause a fever that was 4/6/8 hours away from being discernible? And the vaccine(s) caused a fever that was accelerated by till now the undetected fever? You call the doctor who says that fever is normal. Will you know if the baby's fever becomes dangerous?

Will a baby cry differently?
 
Babies are over vaccinated.

Now prove your assertion. What evidence are you basing your conclusion on? Have you considered evidence that does not support your conclusion?

Suppose your baby was coming down with something that will cause a fever that was 4/6/8 hours away from being discernible? And the vaccine(s) caused a fever that was accelerated by till now the undetected fever? You call the doctor who says that fever is normal. Will you know if the baby's fever becomes dangerous?

When it reached temperatures higher than "low grade fevers" that was the cue for either me or my wife to call the DR, or head in if the temp didn't come down when treated.

Will a baby cry differently?


Yes. My lads' cries were different when they were feverish, merely soiled or if they had hurt themselves. I noticed similar things with other people's children as well. Don't you pay attention?
 
Babies are over vaccinated.

Suppose your baby was coming down with something that will cause a fever that was 4/6/8 hours away from being discernible? And the vaccine(s) caused a fever that was accelerated by till now the undetected fever? You call the doctor who says that fever is normal. Will you know if the baby's fever becomes dangerous?

Will a baby cry differently?

I'm sure there's a medical professional who'll explain differential diagnosis to you if you ask them nicely.

As for knowing if the baby's fever is becoming dangerous, surely you'd simply monitor the baby's temperature no?
 
Clay, do you know the difference between being wrong and a lie?

Erm, it seems to be "A claim that you should watch a seven minute video".

Assuming the guy was honest, he was wrong. No lies needed. Funny how CTs rarely accept people can be honestly wrong about concepts outside of their expertise.
 
Sure, because who would want to never have a disease if the opportunity of becoming sick, but eventually recovering, is offered to them? Which diseases do you like to acquire and be cured of, Clayton?

By the way, why do you trust big pharma to discover and offer these cures when they are too immoral to tell "the truth" about vaccines? Why do you think these cures will be safer than vaccines, when typically the drugs already used to cure diseases have significantly more side effects than vaccines?

Also, so finally you admit that you think all vaccines are bad! Okay, thanks- that helps me understand you better in the future of this thread. So its not, as you have claimed at different times, that too many vaccines are injected at one time, or that the MMR vaccine is bad, or the anthrax vaccine is bad, or aluminum, or formalin, or whatever! You believe all vaccines are bad or wastes of money and the money spent should go into cures after one acquires a disease. It took a long time for you to be willing to state that.

Here is the horrible truth about anthrax vaccines and the Gulf War Syndrome.


http://www.hspig.org/MT/weblogs-hspig/archives/2004/11/anthrax_vaccine.html

A seemingly logical defense for using squalene is that squalene can be safely eaten. You can swallow it and not have a problem. Like hot sauce, eating it is one thing, but injecting it can lead to an entirely different response. The amount was very tiny, but as is the same with many other injectables, when you start counting molecules, even a tiny amount contains millions of invading molecules. Squalene is a powerful immune system stimulant; it doesn’t take much. The information that squalene was safe enough to eat or be rubbed on the skin, lead researchers to decide that injecting it would be an acceptable risk given the circumstances of imminent warfare.

To avoid political problems, the vaccination program was kept quiet. Most soldiers did not know, or probably much care, what this next shot contained. Until they started getting ill. Soldiers were under orders to take the shot, coded as Vaccine A, and could not refuse at the risk of dishonorable discharge. They were not told what the vaccine was, often it was not recorded on their shot record, or their record was ‘lost’ by the establishment. Then soldiers in specific base locations started getting sick. Some had been to war, others had not. Some were able to document that they had been given Vaccine A, with the magic immune system booster squalene. Symptoms of an immune system consuming itself appeared and the CDC recognized Gulf War Syndrome.




http://www.hspig.org/MT/weblogs-hspig/archives/2004/11/anthrax_vaccine.html
 
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