Romney, Obama, Rasmussen

BenBurch said:
I have a message for you from the majority of Americans; you are invited to find another country where the electorate is more to your taste. May I suggest Russia?
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Or feel free to start your own country, I hear the moon is nice this time of year.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
What's your point?
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If you would simply answer the question I keep asking you then you just might be able to figure it out.

RandFan said:
Are they? And you would know that someone like Romney, someone who has few if any principles and has been on every side of nearly issue is the right guy because?
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I just want to know given Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon, what makes you so special? When someone starts claiming that the "right guy" is going to lose based on the stupidity and gullibility of the electorate then I want to know then how we determine who is the "right guy". How did you determine it?
 
RandFan said:
If you would simply answer the question I keep asking you then you just might be able to figure it out.



I just want to know given Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon, what makes you so special? When someone starts claiming that the "right guy" is going to lose based on the stupidity and gullibility of the electorate then I want to know then how we determine who is the "right guy". How did you determine it?
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You've got to be kidding me if you think there isn't an awful lot of Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon going on amongst the Obama supporters in this forum. (Yourself included)

How did I determine that Romney was "the right guy"? By gathering information, reading and studying in a non-biased way, and understanding and evaluating both sides of the debate. You know, sorta what this forum is supposed to be all about. It works pretty well in the majority of the forums on here, but look out when it comes to the USA Politics. Everything out the window. I've seen more critical thinking on a YEC board.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've got to be kidding me if you think there isn't an awful lot of Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon going on amongst the Obama supporters in this forum. (Yourself included)

How did I determine that Romney was "the right guy"? By gathering information, reading and studying in a non-biased way, and understanding and evaluating both sides of the debate. You know, sorta what this forum is supposed to be all about. It works pretty well in the majority of the forums on here, but look out when it comes to the USA Politics. Everything out the window. I've seen more critical thinking on a YEC board.
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And what makes you believe that people who support Obama do not do the same thing that you claim to do?
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've got to be kidding me if you think there isn't an awful lot of Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon going on amongst the Obama supporters in this forum. (Yourself included)
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DUH! I never claimed otherwise. Focus on what I'm asking and not what rhetorical advantage you can achieve in each post. It will help the discussion.

How did I determine that Romney was "the right guy"? By gathering information, reading and studying in a non-biased way, and understanding and evaluating both sides of the debate.
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How often has that process ended up convincing you that the Republican candidate was the wrong guy?
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
The discussion on this forum, for starters. Take a look at some of these threads.
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I have. It seems you do no have the critical thinking skills you claim. You simply believe that Mitt Romney is the ONLY choice, the smart choice, and thus, anyone who doesn't think as you do is deluded.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
How did I determine that Romney was "the right guy"? By gathering information, reading and studying in a non-biased way, and understanding and evaluating both sides of the debate.
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And what particular issues in the debate convinced you that Romney was the right guy?
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You know, sorta what this forum is supposed to be all about. It works pretty well in the majority of the forums on here, but look out when it comes to the USA Politics. Everything out the window. I've seen more critical thinking on a YEC board.
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Yes. You are so unbiased and everyone who disagrees with you is incapable of critical thinking. Try the CT forum. You'll see some holocaust deniers who make the exact same argument.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've got to be kidding me if you think there isn't an awful lot of Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon going on amongst the Obama supporters in this forum. (Yourself included)
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BTW: For nearly a decade I argued passionately for conservative principles on this forum. Don't go confusing me for some other body and don't make assumption about what I do or don't think. If you don't know then ask me.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
Last election.
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Who did you vote for? Who are your favorite Democrat pundits, politicians? Can you point to a post in this forum where you defended a Democratic position or candidate (one advanced by democrats)?
 
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RandFan said:
BTW: For nearly a decade I argued passionately for conservative principles on this forum. Don't go confusing me for some other body and don't make assumption about what I do or don't think. If you don't know then ask me.
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I will vouch for that. RandFan (who still bears the name of the author who had influenced him so much) has undergone radical changes since being here. While it's not common, people do sometimes change and even admit that they have changed, with RandFan being exhibit A.
 
Tricky said:
RandFan (who still bears the name of the author who had influenced him so much) has undergone radical changes since being here.
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Wow! Being much newer here and after reading many of his posts the last couple of years I had never realized... :eye-poppi
 
Tricky said:
I will vouch for that. RandFan (who still bears the name of the author who had influenced him so much) has undergone radical changes since being here. While it's not common, people do sometimes change and even admit that they have changed, with RandFan being exhibit A.
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de Evolution at work.
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
You've got to be kidding me if you think there isn't an awful lot of Dunning-Krueger and The Righteous Mind phenomenon going on amongst the Obama supporters in this forum. (Yourself included)

How did I determine that Romney was "the right guy"? By gathering information, reading and studying in a non-biased way, and understanding and evaluating both sides of the debate. You know, sorta what this forum is supposed to be all about. It works pretty well in the majority of the forums on here, but look out when it comes to the USA Politics. Everything out the window. I've seen more critical thinking on a YEC board.
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This is actually hilarious coming from you.

Meh. So there were a few demokkkrats in the crowd at an AARP meeting. So what?
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I've gotta agree with Romney that most demoKKKrats are moochers.
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Oh, me too! And I think all children have the right to pet ponies and ice cream every day!

That Mitt Romney is such a meanie. And to make matters worse, he is rich. Boo Romney!
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sir drinks-a-lot, adding reasoned political discourse to the USA politics board. :rolleyes:
 
AdMan said:
Wow! Being much newer here and after reading many of his posts the last couple of years I had never realized... :eye-poppi
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My bark is worse than my bite. I'm a passionate person and tend to go overboard. When I do support a position or idea I do so with with both barrels blazing (something I'm trying to change but getting the chip off of my shoulder has been difficult, see my sig file). It would be a mistake for anyone to think I have any loyalty to the Democrats. I'm motivated mostly by a strong disdain for the GOP and not as much against conservative principles. I think what I care most about are pragmatic realities. As a conservative I honestly believed that the best outcomes were achieved by social Darwinism or something akin to it. Over the years on this forum I learned that the science behind what makes social species tick and real world data don't match that.

Sorry for the OT explanation but it seemed apropos.
 
RandFan said:
My bark is worse than my bite. I'm a passionate person and tend to go overboard. When I do support a position or idea I do so with with both barrels blazing (something I'm trying to change but getting the chip off of my shoulder has been difficult, see my sig file). It would be a mistake for anyone to think I have any loyalty to the Democrats. I'm motivated mostly by a strong disdain for the GOP and not as much against conservative principles. I think what I care most about are pragmatic realities. As a conservative I honestly believed that the best outcomes were achieved by social Darwinism or something akin to it. Over the years on this forum I learned that the science behind what makes social species tick and real world data don't match that.
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Also true. RandFan and I have had some jolly old fights over the years, but somehow, we found some points we could agree on. Though we've been mad at each other, I don't think we ever lost respect for each other. And that, IMO, is why these boards can sometimes be so very special.

So when someone claims they are unbiased, I claim BS. Everybody is biased. RF wears his on his sleeve, but I never deny being a liberal and having the expected liberal bias. I like to think that I at least recognize it. I know that RF recognizes his. How about you Sir D-A-L? You want to admit your bias?
 
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