Robert Prey
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The Experts
Based on what AntPogo and Jay Utah have been posting, one might think that the only image expert put forth by birthers is Mara Zebest who has been referred to since she is Sherff Joe's prime expert. But that is not the case. In fact there are many other highly qualified exerts that come to the same conclusion of Fraud in the COLB document and state their reasons which are essentially consistent with the analysis of Mara Zebest:
From:
OBAMA ~ THE EVIDENCE VAULT
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.evidencevault.blogspot.com/
OBAMA'S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ~ THE EVIDENCE
Joseph M. Newcomer,
who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has said that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House on April 27 of 2011 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.
"There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong." After explaining the problems, Newcomber concluded, "If I saw these differences in a document I was examining, it would scream out at me that the document was a 'cut-and-paste' fraud."
Newcomber was instrumental in providing expert analysis on the “Bush National Guard document scandal” in which documents were fabricated – faked – to try to bring down the Bush presidency. Result? The producer of the segment was fired from CBS News and long-running anchor Dan Rather, a hard-core activist democrat, who ran with the story, according to the CEO of CBS
NEWCOMER'S CONCLUSION: OBAMA'S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY A FAKE.[/I]
EXPERT ~ PAUL IREY
Retired, 50-year typesetting expert veteran Paul Irey, who started and owned Bergan Graphics in Fort Lee, N.J., which at its height had 60 employees working three round-the-clock shifts and had prestige clients that included Montgomery Ward and Acme Markets, has identified DIFFERENT TYPE STYLES in the same words on the document, a smoking gun of evidence.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told World Net Daily.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Scanner-expert Doug Vogt,
an international expert on scanners and document-imaging software, and who has owned Archive Index Systems Inc. - since 1993, in Bellevue, Wash., a company that sells a wide variety of document scanners worldwide and develops document imaging software – and who before that owned Nova Typesetting for 11 years, has filed a criminal charge with the FBI, charging that the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is criminally fraudulent.
“…this form is a created forgery."
Vogt produced a long and compelling graphic analysis that lays to waste the believability of the Obama long form birth certificate. It can be read in total here http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=305705
EXPERT ~ GARY POYSSICK
Gary Poyssick has been involved in the creation and development of Adobe graphics software since the beginning. Adobe – with Poyssick’s help - created “Photoshop”, a program so extensively used that the term photoshop has come into the lexicon of common language for digital manipulation such as the brand “Xerox” for decades was used generically to reference photocopying.
Conclusion
The document is a forgery. It was created from some number – more than one – original birth certificates from Hawaii. In an attempt to hide the fact that it was digitally created, old letters from a typed document were found and placed on top of the original scanned document.
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EXPERT ~ Ivan Zatkovich
Ivan Zatkovich has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation. His company, Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, web publishing and ecommerce and has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com.
Zatkovich says there are serious problems with the birth certificate.
"When a paper document is scanned on a scanner and saved as a PDF file it normally contains only a single layer of graphical information. The PDF that appears on the White House website however, contains multiple layers of graphic information. Multiple layers usually appear in a document like this when it is being edited or modified in some fashion.
"It is possible to take a single layer PDF and inadvertently create multiple layers, without changing the image in any fashion. But that does not appear to be the case here. The multiple layers in the PDF document are a result of changes made to the image,"
ZATKOVICH'S CONCLUSION: "The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web."
EXPERT ~ MARA ZEBEST
Mara Zebest has co-authored several hard-cover books on Photoshop that sit on the shelves of every legitimate graphics studio in the English-speaking world, edited almost 100 more and is a graphics trainer and consultant for Fortune-500 companies. Zebest, a lifelong democrat who should be protecting Obama is political ideology was her motivation, is more direct than Newcomer. Zebest calls Obama's birth certificate a "pathetic, amateurish fake".
So much for the "Expert" Pooh-Poohers on this board. Now comes the fusillade of ad hominems -- the Pooh-poohers attempt to destroy their credibility.
Based on what AntPogo and Jay Utah have been posting, one might think that the only image expert put forth by birthers is Mara Zebest who has been referred to since she is Sherff Joe's prime expert. But that is not the case. In fact there are many other highly qualified exerts that come to the same conclusion of Fraud in the COLB document and state their reasons which are essentially consistent with the analysis of Mara Zebest:
From:
OBAMA ~ THE EVIDENCE VAULT
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
http://www.evidencevault.blogspot.com/
OBAMA'S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ~ THE EVIDENCE
Joseph M. Newcomer,
who exposed the "Killian documents" as fraudulent in 2004, has said that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House on April 27 of 2011 is a "highly suspicious" document that deserves professional forensic examination.
"There are artifacts in the birth certificate document that are strongly suggestive of a forgery. The document screams out that something is wrong." After explaining the problems, Newcomber concluded, "If I saw these differences in a document I was examining, it would scream out at me that the document was a 'cut-and-paste' fraud."
Newcomber was instrumental in providing expert analysis on the “Bush National Guard document scandal” in which documents were fabricated – faked – to try to bring down the Bush presidency. Result? The producer of the segment was fired from CBS News and long-running anchor Dan Rather, a hard-core activist democrat, who ran with the story, according to the CEO of CBS
NEWCOMER'S CONCLUSION: OBAMA'S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY A FAKE.[/I]
EXPERT ~ PAUL IREY
Retired, 50-year typesetting expert veteran Paul Irey, who started and owned Bergan Graphics in Fort Lee, N.J., which at its height had 60 employees working three round-the-clock shifts and had prestige clients that included Montgomery Ward and Acme Markets, has identified DIFFERENT TYPE STYLES in the same words on the document, a smoking gun of evidence.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told World Net Daily.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Scanner-expert Doug Vogt,
an international expert on scanners and document-imaging software, and who has owned Archive Index Systems Inc. - since 1993, in Bellevue, Wash., a company that sells a wide variety of document scanners worldwide and develops document imaging software – and who before that owned Nova Typesetting for 11 years, has filed a criminal charge with the FBI, charging that the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is criminally fraudulent.
“…this form is a created forgery."
Vogt produced a long and compelling graphic analysis that lays to waste the believability of the Obama long form birth certificate. It can be read in total here http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=305705
EXPERT ~ GARY POYSSICK
Gary Poyssick has been involved in the creation and development of Adobe graphics software since the beginning. Adobe – with Poyssick’s help - created “Photoshop”, a program so extensively used that the term photoshop has come into the lexicon of common language for digital manipulation such as the brand “Xerox” for decades was used generically to reference photocopying.
Conclusion
The document is a forgery. It was created from some number – more than one – original birth certificates from Hawaii. In an attempt to hide the fact that it was digitally created, old letters from a typed document were found and placed on top of the original scanned document.
* * *
EXPERT ~ Ivan Zatkovich
Ivan Zatkovich has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation. His company, Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, web publishing and ecommerce and has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com.
Zatkovich says there are serious problems with the birth certificate.
"When a paper document is scanned on a scanner and saved as a PDF file it normally contains only a single layer of graphical information. The PDF that appears on the White House website however, contains multiple layers of graphic information. Multiple layers usually appear in a document like this when it is being edited or modified in some fashion.
"It is possible to take a single layer PDF and inadvertently create multiple layers, without changing the image in any fashion. But that does not appear to be the case here. The multiple layers in the PDF document are a result of changes made to the image,"
ZATKOVICH'S CONCLUSION: "The content clearly indicates that the document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it was placed on the web."
EXPERT ~ MARA ZEBEST
Mara Zebest has co-authored several hard-cover books on Photoshop that sit on the shelves of every legitimate graphics studio in the English-speaking world, edited almost 100 more and is a graphics trainer and consultant for Fortune-500 companies. Zebest, a lifelong democrat who should be protecting Obama is political ideology was her motivation, is more direct than Newcomer. Zebest calls Obama's birth certificate a "pathetic, amateurish fake".
So much for the "Expert" Pooh-Poohers on this board. Now comes the fusillade of ad hominems -- the Pooh-poohers attempt to destroy their credibility.
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