JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Robert Prey said:
It's a mixed list.
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That's the point. Now it's a mixed list, whereas before these were only medical witnesses, according to you. Your inability to keep your story straight over who these witnesses are and what they've supposedly testified to illustrates that you don't really know or care what they say; you just try to wield them like a +40 Battle List.

There are many more medical witnesses not on this list. Obviously.
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Begging the question. No one is obliged to agree that there exists evidence favorable to you that you have not produced.

I previously attempted to post a more complete list but the moderator deleted it.
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Irrelevant. You can't deal with the witness list as presently constituted. They've all been addressed by your critics, hence the apt subtitle for this thread: "It never ends." You went away for a time and have returned to assume that your witness list is now somehow "fresh" again. It's old news, and you obviously have nothing further to say on the subject. You're done.
 
Robert Prey said:
Hardly relevant to 3 experienced officers identifying the words 'Made Italy, Cal 6.5" with Mauser 7.65 and swearing to it as evidence in The Crime of the Century.
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Can you produce even ONE image of a rifle bearing these marks? Even ONE?

Evading the question won't make it go away.
 
Robert Prey said:
It's a mixed list. There are many more medical witnesses not on this list. Obviously. I previously attempted to post a more complete list but the moderator deleted it.
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The more complete list spammed from another website,with no indication of why those witnesses (many of whom, make statements that directly contradict your claim) are meant to support your argument?

Still no dice. The list I quoted was provided after you were called on your 40+ claim.

You state you have 40+ MEDICAL witnesses. You do not.


Care to rescind the claim you have provided 40+ MEDICAL witnesses who support your claim?

(You will notice the suggestion they support your claims are already debunked.)
 
Robert Prey said:
Hardly relevant to 3 experienced officers identifying the words 'Made Italy, Cal 6.5" with Mauser 7.65 and swearing to it as evidence in The Crime of the Century.
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It's absolutely relevant - an "experienced" investigator with the California Bureau of Firearms divison of the State Department of Justice couldn't correctly identify even one out of three firearms he based an arrest on.

Might want to look again at the two pics I posted. There are enough similarities between the Carcano and a Mauser in 7.65 that a half informed officer might make a mistaken ID, and until you produce a Mauser in 7.65 with proof that the piece was recovered in Dallas on 11-23-63, you're talking out your fundemental.
 
So, again, as it was handwaved before;


What is the earliest documentation that suggests the words "made in Italy" were the method of identification? Where is the citation?
 
BStrong said:
It's absolutely relevant - an "experienced" investigator with the California Bureau of Firearms divison of the State Department of Justice couldn't correctly identify even one out of three firearms he based an arrest on.

Might want to look again at the two pics I posted. There are enough similarities between the Carcano and a Mauser in 7.65 that a half informed officer might make a mistaken ID, and until you produce a Mauser in 7.65 with proof that the piece was recovered in Dallas on 11-23-63, you're talking out your fundemental.
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A sworn statement is just as good, and affirmed by 3 other officers.
 
Tomtomkent said:
The more complete list spammed from another website,with no indication of why those witnesses (many of whom, make statements that directly contradict your claim) are meant to support your argument?

Still no dice. The list I quoted was provided after you were called on your 40+ claim.

You state you have 40+ MEDICAL witnesses. You do not.


Care to rescind the claim you have provided 40+ MEDICAL witnesses who support your claim?

(You will notice the suggestion they support your claims are already debunked.)
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Baloney. No one on this board has presented a more complete, accurate compilation of medical witnesses. Your alleged debunking has been thoroughly debunked and you know it.
 
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JayUtah said:
That's the point. Now it's a mixed list, whereas before these were only medical witnesses, according to you. Your inability to keep your story straight over who these witnesses are and what they've supposedly testified to illustrates that you don't really know or care what they say; you just try to wield them like a +40 Battle List.



Begging the question. No one is obliged to agree that there exists evidence favorable to you that you have not produced.



Irrelevant. You can't deal with the witness list as presently constituted. They've all been addressed by your critics, hence the apt subtitle for this thread: "It never ends." You went away for a time and have returned to assume that your witness list is now somehow "fresh" again. It's old news, and you obviously have nothing further to say on the subject. You're done.
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Baloney.
 
Tomtomkent said:
So, again, as it was handwaved before;


What is the earliest documentation that suggests the words "made in Italy" were the method of identification? Where is the citation?
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In making a post, or asking a question, it is always wise to try to have a point. That makes it so much more interesting. Surely, you don't dispute the Warren Report. So your point is?????
 
JayUtah said:
You went away for a time and have returned to assume that your witness list is now somehow "fresh" again. It's old news, and you obviously have nothing further to say on the subject. You're done.
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Actually, Robert was "done" about December of Last Year. Robert had played his limited set of conspiracy flash cards and just began to repeat himself. The thread continued only because otherwise intelligent people enabled him and let him control the discussion.

Unless someone who is not Robert wants to discuss the Cuban connection to the assassination which I posted about here, I'm done too.
 
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Robert Prey said:
A sworn statement is just as good, and affirmed by 3 other officers.
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Only when you want to believe their version of events.

I generally prefer physical evidence, as my training and experience has been that individuals, even police officers, consistently mis-identify firearms.

Any comment on the similarites between your alledged "7.65 Mauser" and the Oswald Carcano clone I posted pics of?

Half-trained eye sees the magazine housing, thinks Mauser when the piece isn't, won't admit mistake.

That's my bet.

If you want to assert that pros looking to frame a "patsy" are going to use a different piece than their designated hitter uses and leave the piece to be found, I'd be interested to read your explanation of that sequence of events.
 
infocusinc said:
Can you produce even ONE image of a rifle bearing these marks? Even ONE?

Evading the question won't make it go away.

I see you are trying. Par for the course....
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I provided evidence of an assigned firearms investigator mis-identifying not one, but three firearms and falsely arresting the individual in possession, and Robert ran away from it like Oswald from the TSBD.

Go back in the thread and look at the pic of the Mauser v. the Carcano.

Easy mistake for the untrained.
 
Robert Prey said:
If you want to make sure the President ends up dead, you do not leave the job to a lone nut shooter with a bad rifle and checkered accounts of his shooting expertise. You make sure the assassination is successful by having more than one shooter in diverse locations. And to make sure you throw the public off the track from demanding a thorough investigation,, by the frame up of a patsy and then make sure he quickly ends up dead before he has a chance to defend himself and shed light on the real perps.
Obviously.
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There really is no help for you, is there.
 
Robert Prey said:
That documentary is a classic example of a Red Herring Diversion. An alleged proof of a single bullet theory has no relation to the fatal shot that blasted the President's head leaving a large blow-out in the back of his head as affirmed by 40 plus onthescene medical witnesses. I've seen a whole lot of documentaries on the subject with the possible exception of "TMWKK" none of them deal with The Very Best Evidence, namely the wound to the head.
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Oh joyous delight, the "blow-out" [sic] issue once again.

I'd help all of us a little if you would provide your definition of "blow-out" [sic]. I've asked you numerous times. And though I have no doubt you'll not respond, I'll ask again: With regard to a bullet wound to the body, what is your definition of a resultant "blow-out" [sic]?
 
Robert Prey said:
If you want to make sure the President ends up dead, you do not leave the job to a lone nut shooter with a bad rifle and checkered accounts of his shooting expertise. You make sure the assassination is successful by having more than one shooter in diverse locations. And to make sure you throw the public off the track from demanding a thorough investigation,, by the frame up of a patsy and then make sure he quickly ends up dead before he has a chance to defend himself and shed light on the real perps.
Obviously.
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Unless you are that lone nut. Then you do it, well, lone. That's kind of the point.

Then you just need to make sure that you get a bunch of CT loons to try to find the craziest explanations they can think of.

Seems to have worked. I mean, look at this guy:

 
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Robert Prey said:
But the head wound evidence of a large blow-out in the back of the head indicates a shot or shots from the front.
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This may be the best anyone's going to get from you, so let's use it.

Are you stating a shot into a globe of the Earth in the area of Texas can only produce a "blow-out" [sic] on the opposite side of the globe? A shot to Texas will not produce a "blow-out" [sic] anywhere in the area represented as the continental US?
 
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