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And Australia's most popular political leader is... [cue drum-roll]

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... Bob Brown!

In your face, haters! :p

The Greens were the biggest political winners of 2011, according to Essential’s panel when asked which parties and leaders had fared the best this year. Thirty-three per cent said the Greens had a good year, ahead of the Liberals (27%) and Labor (16%). Naturally, Bob Brown was declared the winner among legislators — 32% said the long-time Greens leader had a good year, slightly ahead of not Gillard (21%) or Abbott (21%) but exiled Labor leader Kevin Rudd (31%).

http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/12/12/essential-both-leaders-end-the-year-on-the-nose/
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bit_pattern said:
... Bob Brown!

In your face, haters! :p
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Survey does not match thread title. He was polled on "having a good year" not whether he was popular.

Even I would acknowledge that of the Oz political leaders, the Fates have smiled on him, self-serving sanctimonious fascist that he is.
 
Brown and the Greens will get no more than 10% in any election. He's not and never will be Australia's most popular political leader.
 
Yeah Bit I like some of their policies, dislike intensely some of their others (but that's no different from any other party), but BB is far from the most popular politician in Australia, and unlikely to be anytime in the near reality.
 
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bit_pattern said:
Godwin. You're out.
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Referring to Earl Godwin of Wessex, or "opinions I don't like"?

As to teh Inet meme, you didn't have a case. I didn't mention the German National Socialist Workers Party, or refer to Hitler, such as noting he was anti-tobacco environmentalist.

Bob's support of centralized authority and stringent socioeconomic regulation gets him the fascist label without any comparisons.
 
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I agree in general Lion, but there is an exception. Should they get a little more, for lack of a better word, practical, and we end up with enough of them in the Reps, you could see a Labor/Green coalition. Depends how much they bleed from Labor and if the inner city seats move far enough to them to capture enough in the Reps.

It will take a new generation to take them any further. I don't see much good so far. And typically such parties implode over personality, not policy once they get far enough ahead to make a substantial difference.

Have to admit they've played themselves into a prime position to take a lot of hard left Labor voters at the next election.
 
nvidiot said:
I agree in general Lion, but there is an exception. Should they get a little more, for lack of a better word, practical, and we end up with enough of them in the Reps, you could see a Labor/Green coalition. Depends how much they bleed from Labor and if the inner city seats move far enough to them to capture enough in the Reps.

It will take a new generation to take them any further. I don't see much good so far. And typically such parties implode over personality, not policy once they get far enough ahead to make a substantial difference.

Have to admit they've played themselves into a prime position to take a lot of hard left Labor voters at the next election.
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A Labor/Green coalition would work very well in inner city electorates, but will be toxic where elections are won - in the outer suburban mortgage belts of the major cities.
 
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A Labor/Green coalition would work very well in inner city electorates, but will be toxic where elections are won - in the outer suburban mortgage belts of the major cities.
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Oh of course. But if there was a hung parliament and 3 or 4 Greens Reps rather than 1, AND they kept moving slowly further to the center, we could see them wriggle into government.

Completely unlikely to the point of being almost ridiculous. But weird things happen in elections, and weirder things can happen with fixed terms and the brutal reality of climate change bearing down on coastal electorates.

I think they need generational change something fierce. If they do it well they could use it to good effect. If they do it the way almost all parties do, i.e. badly, then they'll stay as a fringe left political party with influence but not necessarily balance in the senate.
 
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Oh of course. But if there was a hung parliament and 3 or 4 Greens Reps rather than 1, AND they kept moving slowly further to the center, we could see them wriggle into government
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They could even sell their souls completely like the Lib Dems here in the UK.

They were so eager to get a taste of power that they didn't realise that they were being played by the Conservatives. They ended up with unpopular briefs and having to provide a human shield for the senior partner while at the same time allowing all their key policies to be almost exactly reversed.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-...after-attack-from-nsw-labor-secretary/4116486

New South Wales Labor secretary Sam Dastyari says Labor must send a clear message to the electorate and distance themselves from the Greens, who he has described as "extremists not unlike One Nation".

It's official, the Greens are extremists.

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Mr Dastyari said he could not see how the Greens had "any chance" of keeping the extremist elements within the party in check after Bob Brown's departure.

"The Greens are to the Left what Pauline Hanson and One Nation are to the Right, and they share ridiculous, albeit different, economic agendas," the NSW Labor Secretary told The Weekend Australian.

The Greens and Pauline Hanson are comparable.

ROFL when I read the article. I laughed even more when I read Milne saying things such as:

But Senator Milne says Labor are aligning themselves with the real extremists by preferencing the conservative Family First ahead of the Greens.

".... the Greens actually represent mainstream values and mainstream opinion," she said.

This was actually when I fell on the floor.
 
Er, aren't they in partnership with them?
And..

By cannibalising the progressive vote, the Greens are paving the way for the election of the most feverishly conservative prime minister in Australia's history. They are Tony Abbott's secret weapon.

The Greens will directly assist Tony Abbott's ascension to power. Gasp!


Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy. We've done it before and we need to do it again.

"Extremists" - he got that part right too.

A very good article.

Australia needs a strong Liberal party and strong Labor party, The morons Greens directly undermine the left side of politics leaving us weaker overall.

Howes is right, so is Dastayari. It is just a pity it has taken them so long to wake up - hopefully the rest will follow.
 
Here's another interesting article. It seems these iseas are gaining more and more momentum as the weekend wears on.

But there's self-interest too for Labor. If it could encourage the Coalition to preference against the Greens in the inner-city seats held by Labor such as Grayndler in Sydney, held by Anthony Albanese, or Sydney, held by Tanya Plibersek, it would scuttle the Greens' chances of winning the seats.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion...en-done-to-labor/story-e6frfhqf-1226419943562

I predict the end of the morons Greens as a force of any description within two elections
 
It's official.
The LNP (noalition) are a Stalinist organisation.:eye-poppi
Clive Palmer said so, so it must be true.
Clive would know, he has been a member since he was a teenager.
What Clive said.
And here
 
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It sounds like Palmer is having a bit of a sook as he didn't get his way.

Apparently Abbott isn't a butler to the mining magnates. :rolleyes:
 
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Were buggered.
The alternatives at the next federal election is the "Worst Prime Minister Ever", or a '"Stalinist Party."
Bloody hell, who would you vote for?
 
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