Simple question for Bigfoot enthusiasts: Why no unambiguous photos/videos?

Jodie said:
No one at present for exactly the reasons you stated.

There are plenty of real animals that can be mistaken for any number of mythological creatures, why it has to always be an ape man is beyond me, but I would like to know what it is that people think they are seeing. You would think you would get all kinds of weird animal reports if it was just random misidentification or plain crazy. Am I wrong to think that way?
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Why are most UFOs saucers?
 
Jodie said:
... On rare occasions you get these trackways, or maybe a print or two, in some odd places that would make it difficult to forge...
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What are the conditions around the site of these "tracks" that drives you to conclude that they would be difficult to forge?

Sorry to butt in, but this assertion stands out from some of your others.

ETA : your father's BF story? I'd never heard it before, but from your brief summary it sounds like your 10-year-old father encountered a mangy bear (if in fact he saw anything at all and is not covering for some other encounter such as alluded to by others).
 
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Jodie said:
No one at present for exactly the reasons you stated.

There are plenty of real animals that can be mistaken for any number of mythological creatures, why it has to always be an ape man is beyond me, but I would like to know what it is that people think they are seeing. You would think you would get all kinds of weird animal reports if it was just random misidentification or plain crazy. Am I wrong to think that way?
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Because that is what the legend and the campfire stories say it is.
 
EHocking said:
... it sounds like your 10-year-old father encountered a mangy bear (if in fact he saw anything at all and is not covering for some other encounter such as alluded to by others).
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Mangy bears can be really weird :eye-poppi
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Poor beast...
 
EHocking said:
What are the conditions around the site of these "tracks" that drives you to conclude that they would be difficult to forge?

Sorry to butt in, but this assertion stands out from some of your others.

ETA : your father's BF story? I'd never heard it before, but from your brief summary it sounds like your 10-year-old father encountered a mangy bear (if in fact he saw anything at all and is not covering for some other encounter such as alluded to by others).
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I'm thinking of those found going up hill. If it is a steep incline I think it would be difficult to hoax since the person would have to grab for hand holds to scale up the incline even without stompers. Those are hard to figure out if there are no other signs of disturbance.

The other one that comes to mind was near me on the Georgia/SC border a couple of years ago. One print in a very muddy road with no other prints of anything else around. Knowing how wet clay is around here, if someone jumped with a stomper they would have slid from the momentum and lack of traction in the slick clay. I can't figure out how it was faked.
 
Castro said:
Mangy bears can be really weird :eye-poppi
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Poor beast...
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Let's see a comparison to the "sighting" description from a 10 year old.

Jodie said:
...he said looked like a naked hairy black man.
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Naked - check.
Black - - check.
It was on all fours in front of him
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On all fours - check.
, he says he remembers the hands being different in that the fingers were short and stubby in relation to the palms.
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Short stubby fingers - check.
The eyes had no whites similar to a dog's eyes.
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Not "human-like" eyses - check.
He ran, the thing pursued, swatted him on the butt,
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Just as a quadruped might, when pursuing "prey" - check.
 
Jodie said:
I'm thinking of those found going up hill. If it is a steep incline I think it would be difficult to hoax since the person would have to grab for hand holds to scale up the incline even without stompers. Those are hard to figure out if there are no other signs of disturbance.
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Yet this is exactly what you would do if you were a hoaxer?!

Jodie said:
..If I were a hoaxer, I would always chose the most difficult areas to place my prints to better pull off the joke.
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This is why I'm finding it difficult to follow your argument.
The other one that comes to mind was near me on the Georgia/SC border a couple of years ago. One print in a very muddy road with no other prints of anything else around. Knowing how wet clay is around here, if someone jumped with a stomper they would have slid from the momentum and lack of traction in the slick clay.
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If it is that slippery - why wouldn't a "real" barefoot slide just as readily? Not a decent argument.
I can't figure out how it was faked.
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Argument from incredulity.
Just because you can't figure out how to do it, doesn't mean it couldn't be done...
 
Based on what I have read so far about UFOs and bigfootd, I think the alleged consistencies of eyewitnesses' descriptions are, in both cases, not real.

"Classic" UFOs are taken as being saucer-shaped, but renderings based on alleged eyewitnesses reports as well as avaliable images also portrait spheres, triangles, cyllinders, etc.
Bigfoot descriptions, similarly, change a lot. I believe it would not be wrong to say the only common themes are "humanoid" and "hairy". Size, color, face, exact body shape, all of these can change a lot.

I also think that people must not forget that bigfoots are not the single, only weird fantastic being people claim to see in the woods. Thunderbirds, mothmen, Jersey Devils, chupacabras etc. are also being reported. Thus, the consistency argument is flawed, just like most if not all pro-bigfoot arguments.
 
Jodie said:
I'm thinking of those found going up hill. If it is a steep incline I think it would be difficult to hoax since the person would have to grab for hand holds to scale up the incline even without stompers. Those are hard to figure out if there are no other signs of disturbance.

The other one that comes to mind was near me on the Georgia/SC border a couple of years ago. One print in a very muddy road with no other prints of anything else around. Knowing how wet clay is around here, if someone jumped with a stomper they would have slid from the momentum and lack of traction in the slick clay. I can't figure out how it was faked.
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But a bigfoot can make one print without making others?
You're not even trying now.:D
 
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Jodie said:
I'm thinking of those found going up hill. If it is a steep incline I think it would be difficult to hoax since the person would have to grab for hand holds to scale up the incline even without stompers. Those are hard to figure out if there are no other signs of disturbance.

The other one that comes to mind was near me on the Georgia/SC border a couple of years ago. One print in a very muddy road with no other prints of anything else around. Knowing how wet clay is around here, if someone jumped with a stomper they would have slid from the momentum and lack of traction in the slick clay. I can't figure out how it was faked.
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Somebody did figure out how to do it.
 
EHocking said:
If it is that slippery - why wouldn't a "real" barefoot slide just as readily?
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Were there any signs of suckers on the soles? Maybe bigfoots are part octopus. It just goes to show you how dim some of these hoaxers are. If a human couldn't gain a foothold on a slippery slope, then a bigfoot certainly couldn't.
 
Jodie said:
I'm thinking of those found going up hill. If it is a steep incline I think it would be difficult to hoax since the person would have to grab for hand holds to scale up the incline even without stompers. Those are hard to figure out if there are no other signs of disturbance.
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Faking Bigfoot tracks uphill is easy - simply strap the fake feet on backwards then go downhill... Voila!
 
EHocking said:
Let's see a comparison to the "sighting" description from a 10 year old.

Naked - check.
Black - - check.On all fours - check.Short stubby fingers - check.Not "human-like" eyses - check.Just as a quadruped might, when pursuing "prey" - check.
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Bears are also known to damage the vineyards.

From the San Fransisco Chronicle december 26, 2005:
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"They damage the fences on a daily basis almost faster than we can repair them," Maroon said. "The damaged fences allow the deer to enter. The bear eat the grapes, as do the deer, and they both damage the vines, sometimes killing 12-, 13-year-old vines."

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