ergo
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Kindergarten level even.
Yes. It's intuitive.
Kindergarten level even.
Wait a minute...the CORE fell straight?
See, the thing about lying, then lying to cover up the previous lie, its that eventually they become way too obvious. And that comment was pretty damn obvious.
Some truss pics for DGM. Because he seems a little confused about the bridging trusses.
How long (in your mind) does the upper block remain intact once "collapse" begins?
As for phunk, I have no idea what collapse mode he thinks he's explaining. Something he's no doubt made up in his little phunky head.![]()
Call it a collapse model if you want, but it's a trivial fact that the columns are the only part of the building that can hold the weight of the building above, and if the weight comes off the columns, there's nothing else to hold it up.
Some truss pics for DGM. Because he seems a little confused about the bridging trusses.
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/jaswinder_bucket/WTC/633_insulated_trusses.jpg
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/jaswinder_bucket/WTC/trussassembly.png
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bridging_truss.jpg
Well, I'm sorry, but I've already stated that no structural engineer currently endorses a floor failure model for the WTC. If you know otherwise, please correct me.
Still not answering the question.
The floor system, which exists in both upper and lower building assemblies, is not tasked with arresting the collapse. The column structure, which exists in both upper and lower building assemblies, is.
No, the "cabling" I'm referring to is not the sway dampers, DGM.
Wrong. The floor system braces the columns.Without the floors the columns would collapse under their own weight.
Very true. A point ergo will never except is, the towers were incapable of standing without the floors.And, in actual point of fact, did collapse under their own weight in the event, as isn't that what happened when the core fell? It wasn't connected to anything anymore, and it was incapable of supporting itself.
Okay, if they don't, what kind of model DO they endorse? You don't seriously think structural engineers actually believe the columns fell smack on top of each other in perfect alignment, do you?
It's nonsense. The floor failure model of collapse initiation was found to be incorrect, and he's trying to equate that with any model involving the floors failing after the collapse began.
(I can't imagine what you mean by "tasked").
Wrong. The floor system braces the columns.Without the floors the columns would collapse under their own weight.
It's nonsense. The floor failure model of collapse initiation was found to be incorrect, and he's trying to equate that with any model involving the floors failing after the collapse began.
You also didn't understand the transverse trusses.
That's absurd and you know it. The floors provided lateral stability, but the core carried the building gravity loads and was largely self supporting. The perimeter columns, as we can see even at Ground Zero, maintained their integrity in large sections just with the spandrel plates.
That's absurd and you know it. The floors provided lateral stability, but the core carried the building gravity loads and was largely self supporting. The perimeter columns, as we can see even at Ground Zero, maintained their integrity in large sections just with the spandrel plates.
Now they're transverse trusses. Make up you're mind.
Believe what you want to believe, you're still wrong.