Queen of England: George W Bush is a scientific illiterate

[rppa]

In line with every other concerned person on the planet earth. Nice to see being a queen doesn't make you an idiot. Sadly, being president of the United States apparently does.

Now, now. As a skeptic and a loyal American, I feel it my duty to point out that correlation does not imply causality.

 

[Pragmatist]

Bush always proudly proclaims he communicates with god.

So does 1inChrist. Coincidence? I think not....

 

[Rat]

Without stating views one way or the other on the monarchy, I have to admit that I do like our current queen. She's entertaining. I hear that in private she's quite an accomplished impressionist (does impressions, not a painter) and does a very funny Blair.

Anyways, she stated her concerns (or her concerns were stated) after the observed the effects on her estates. Since that's where she spends a lot of her time in this country, where else could she observe them? I didn't read into that the implication that she was only concerned about those effects in those places; merely that she can readily see changes in the places that she's spent the last 70-odd years, and where she is therefore more likely to notice them.

Cheers,
Rat.

 

[Rob Lister]

There are so many quotes on this Rob it would boggle your mind. Most reside on pro-religious sites such as beliefnet but they are well referenced, perfectly good quotes that GWB prays to god for guidance and then god gives it to him. A separate thread, not in science (social) would be necessary to do this subject justice.

Check out: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/121/story_12112_1.html




This site also has numerous direct Bushisms (quotes) on this but you may have to rummage around if you can take it.

Thank you materia3 but once again I must point out that, unless I missed something, my request for a reference to Bush stating that God talks to him has gone unfufilled.

So again, for the record, could you provide reference to a speech/interview where he stated that god talks to him?

 

[materia3]

Thank you materia3 but once again I must point out that, unless I missed something, my request for a reference to Bush stating that God talks to him has gone unfufilled.

So again, for the record, could you provide reference to a speech/interview where he stated that god talks to him?

You obviously DID NOT take my advice and surf the beliefnet site which is loaded with quotes from Bush including when, where and to whom he said them. If you want me to do the work for you and list all the quoptes, I will do so but I need a little time.

 

[Rob Lister]

You obviously DID NOT take my advice and surf the beliefnet site which is loaded with quotes from Bush including when, where and to whom he said them. If you want me to do the work for you and list all the quoptes, I will do so but I need a little time.

Just one or two direct quotes will be fine. I'm not looking for hearsay though. Something from a speech or recorded interview would be perfect. thx

 

[materia3]

I started a new thread in another forum to deal with this under the title Bush's Divine Mandate. I started it off with a few quotes.

It's here:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870664942#post1870664942

Bush recently discussed this in an interview on national television with I think Barbara Norville which is what started me thinking about this. Before this I hadn't actually bothered looking up his position and belief system.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

In a survey of 12 major countries an anonymous poll of high ( Very ) Gov officials only two favored Bush..Russia and Israel.

 

[Nucular]

The Observer reported that the queen is understood to have asked Blair's office to lobby the US after observing the alarming impact of Britain's changing weather on her estates at Balmoral Castle in Scotland, and Sandringham House in east England.

Alternate headline: 'Old Lady Reads Daily Mail, Gets Worried'

She'll be writing to David Blunkett about asylum seekers next

 

[Jaggy Bunnet]

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Alternate headline: 'Old Lady Reads Daily Mail, Gets Worried'

She'll be writing to David Blunkett about asylum seekers next

But fortunately she has no political power in our system. (At least that's the normal justification for having a hereditary monarch as our head of state - she is purely a figurehead.)

I mean nobody would be remotely worried about improper influence if the US president had a private weekly meeting with the head of Halliburton, right?

Still at least she would never get involved in political issues, right?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/19/nhunt19.xml

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/page.cfm?objectid=13070875&method=full&siteid=106694

Would that she was just an old women righting green pen letters to be treated the same as any other, regrettably she isn't.

 

[Lothian]

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Still at least she would never get involved in political issues, right?
Would that she was just an old women righting green pen letters to be treated the same as any other, regrettably she isn't.

So, despite making her feelings known the Govenment ignores her and goes ahead with its own predetermined actions.

Who says she doesn't know what it is like to be common.?

 

[Jaggy Bunnet]

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Still at least she would never get involved in political issues, right?
Would that she was just an old women righting green pen letters to be treated the same as any other, regrettably she isn't.

So, despite making her feelings known the Govenment ignores her and goes ahead with its own predetermined actions.

Who says she doesn't know what it is like to be common.?

It must take it out of Mr Blair meeting every commoner on a weekly basis. He must come round to my house when I'm out, perhaps I should leave a note?

 

[Rolfe]

I meant to ask - what was it she saw at Balmoral or wherever that put her in this frame of mind? I've never noticed anything that dramatic that I'd put down to global warming. OK, I haven't been around the block as often as she has, and maybe I'm not so observant, but my main point of notice has been swathes of dead trees I put down to acid rain, nothing much to do with global warming.

Anybody know the actual nature of the royal evidence?

Rolfe.

 

[Jaggy Bunnet]

I meant to ask - what was it she saw at Balmoral or wherever that put her in this frame of mind? I've never noticed anything that dramatic that I'd put down to global warming. OK, I haven't been around the block as often as she has, and maybe I'm not so observant, but my main point of notice has been swathes of dead trees I put down to acid rain, nothing much to do with global warming.

Anybody know the actual nature of the royal evidence?

Rolfe.

We've had a pretty wet summer which has probably had a negative impact on grouse breeding so maybe it was the shortage of birds for her to shoot?

 

[Benguin]

I meant to ask - what was it she saw at Balmoral or wherever that put her in this frame of mind? I've never noticed anything that dramatic that I'd put down to global warming. OK, I haven't been around the block as often as she has, and maybe I'm not so observant, but my main point of notice has been swathes of dead trees I put down to acid rain, nothing much to do with global warming.

Anybody know the actual nature of the royal evidence?

Rolfe.

I wondered that to. I actually accept the theory of global warming, although the argument that there is nothing much we can do about it is powerful, I don't think that should mean we shouldn't try.

We've seen some unusual weather patterns in the last few years that might indicate something impacting global climate. Or might be a blip of little significance. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from a dodgy couple of seasons around Balmoral.

Charles is a quite a fanatical environmentalist in the David Ike vien, maybe he's talked her into her current enthusiasm. Or maybe she sees it as a way to irritate GWB without actually being seen as Political. I think it is known she doesn't like him much, his recent expressed desire to remove unelected incumbent heads of state might have her worried ... who knows?