The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy

I don't have the time to research all of them now. This thread ended about 4 years ago and was bumped by someone else.
Which means you had four freaking years to research the prophecies you started the thread with. I don't remember you research them properly either.

I'll look at them at my convenience. I will definitely respond within a month or sooner.
A month? What are you going to do? Book a flight to Damascus to see with your own eyes whether the city is still there?

On second thoughts, a (symbolic) journey to Damascus would really be appropriate. :rolleyes:
 
Damascus is still there Doc. Would you agree with me that the prophecy failed? No need for a month of research.
 
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Isaiah 17:1

"An oracle concerning Damascus: See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins."

Damascus is still there.

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Human history has not ended yet. Read this weeks paper. Britain believes Syria is headed for Civil war and if that happens Damascus will be a heap of ruins.

ETA Also if there is a nuclear war in the Middle east Damascus could be a heap of ruins in less than a second.
 
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Human history has not ended yet. Read this weeks paper. Britain believes Syria is headed for Civil war and if that happens Damascus will be a heap of ruins.

No city lasts forever Doc. I will give you a prophecy. New York will one day cease to exist. You will need a better cop-out than that. What about the Nile drying up? When do you expect that to happen? Two million years? And when will uncircumcised men be banned from Jerusalem?
 
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Human history has not ended yet. Read this weeks paper. Britain believes Syria is headed for Civil war and if that happens Damascus will be a heap of ruins.
Are you really hoping for civil war so that you can pretend that a prophecy is fulfilled?

Not only is that a lame cop-out, it's also morally disgusting.



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It would be even more evil if one was to put an ETA in suggesting nuclear war would be a way to fulfill the prophecy.
Oh, never mind.
Stay Classy, DOC!
 
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When the sun expands and wipes out the earth it will dry out the Nile for you and wipe out Damascus if it's still there.

2-0 to God, take that atheists ;)
 
When the sun expands and wipes out the earth it will dry out the Nile for you and wipe out Damascus if it's still there.

2-0 to God, take that atheists ;)

Well, if you're going to bring reality into it.......
 
When will god bring back the Canaanite language so that it can be spoken in Egypt Doc?



Genesis 26:4
And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.

Here God tells Isaac that his descendents (Hebrews) will be as numerous as the stars. Considering the number of stars there are in the universe, that would have to be on the order of 10 to the20th people. That's a lot Doc, 1000000000000000000000 human beings. Where is god going to fit them all in on the Earth?

Ezekiel 30:10-11

"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his army - the most ruthless of nations - will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the slain."


FAIL: Ezekiel predicts that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon will conquer Egypt filling it's borders with the slain. In 568 BCE Nebuchadnezzar attempted to conquer Egypt without success. Egypt's king ruled for another generation and outlived Nebuchadnezzar thereby escaping the fulfillment of this prophecy. The Egyptians were not scattered or dispersed or slain in droves across the lands.


Matthew.16:28

"I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

No comment.


2 Samuel 7:16

"Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever.”

FAIL: God says that David's kingdom will last forever. By forever he must have meant 400 years. I mean, what would David know then? He would be dead. So he allowed it to be destroyed about 400 years after Solomon's death, never to be rebuilt. So does forever=400 years?
 
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I can see why you are only sticking to the Damascus prophecy, all cities will end as heaps of ruins. There may not be war, and if there was Damascus may be reduced to rubble but it would be rebuilt, just as Berlin was. What about the prophecy about the Jewish people being as numerous as the stars? Would you agree that it was written by a primitive man who had no idea about the size of the universe? What about Matthew's erroneous statement?

Matthew.16:28

"I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

It's in the bible, it did not pan out so would you agree that the bible contains mistakes? Or are some of those people now around 2000 years old?
 
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Human history has not ended yet.
Non-sequiter, but true. Got any reason to think that 'human history' will 'end' any time in the near future?

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Read this weeks paper.
Is there supposed to be something shocking about some country going to war somewhere in the world? That isn't exactly something new you know.

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Britain believes Syria is headed for Civil war and if that happens Damascus will be a heap of ruins.

This is a slippery slope fallacy. And there's no reason to believe that it would necessarily be true even if Syria did go into a civil war.
 
Forget Damascus. Press him on the other failed prophecies.
There's no reason to concede any of these points. To switch targets gives a false impression of a "win" for him.
Besides, it is interesting watching him use other people's pain and suffering as a way to bolster a failed prophecy. DOC has defended/condoned slavery, beating servants, the death and suffering of children in a natural disaster and now advocating civil war.

What kind of person does this?
 
There's no reason to concede any of these points. To switch targets gives a false impression of a "win" for him.
Besides, it is interesting watching him use other people's pain and suffering as a way to bolster a failed prophecy. DOC has defended/condoned slavery, beating servants, the death and suffering of children in a natural disaster and now advocating civil war.

What kind of person does this?

A fair point. We can move on to the many other failed prophecies later. As the natural disaster involved me I remember his pathetic defense of his god.
 
Human history has not ended yet. Read this weeks paper. Britain believes Syria is headed for Civil war and if that happens Damascus will be a heap of ruins.


Examples of other cities where this has happened please.


ETA Also if there is a nuclear war in the Middle east Damascus could be a heap of ruins in less than a second.


If I had some cheese I could have cheese and crackers if only I had some crackers.
 
The spectacular record of failed prophecies:

Nineveh: Nahum, writing at a time when the Assyrian empire was disintegrating under the attacks of the Medes and Chaldeans , and after the Scythians had run amok through its territories, predictably prophesied the fall of Nineveh.

He says (Nah. 1:8): But with an overflowing flood [God] will make an end of his adversaries.

Nahum 2:6 says: The river gates are opened. The palace is in dismay.

These words have been taken by fundamentalist apologists as meaning that the Tigris river overflowed, undercutting part of the walls of Nineveh, which which collapsed. The Medes and Chaldeans poured in the gap.Thinking that his city was impregnable, King Sardanapalus was feasting and drinking. Thus, the Assyrians were caught by surprise and utterly destroyed. Sardanapalus had his horses and concubines killed on his funeral pyre where he sat resigned and was burned to death.

None of this is true. The Medes and Chaldaens forced an entry at the Halzi gate, one of the few gates to the city that was not on the Tigris River. Sardanapalus is a mythical figure. The actual Assyrian king, Sin-shar-iskin, younger son of Ashurbanipul, may have thrown himself on his funeral pyre in despair as the city was falling. However, the Assyrians were not taken by surprise, but went down fighting. Ashur-uballit, younger brother of Ashurbanipul, led some die-hard Assyrians out of Nineveh as it was falling. They fled to Harran, where Ashur-uballit was crowned king. The Medes drove him out of Harran. So, he crossed the Euphrates and joined up with the Egyptian forces under Pharaoh Necho. Nebuchadrezzar, crown prince of Chaldea, forced a crossing of the Euphrates and defeated the combined Egyptian - Assyrian force at Charchemish (605 BCE). At tis point Ashur-uballlit disappears from history.

Babylon: Isaiah 13:15 - 18 predicts the fall of Babylon, saying the people will be run through and fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes and their wives ravished. All this will be done by the Medes. Jeremiah 51:11 says that God is stirring up the kings of the Medes and Persians against Babylon, for his purpose is to destroy it. Both these prophecies are false. The city of Babylon welcomed the Persians under Cyrus as liberators and opened their gets to them, since the Babylonians hated the Chaldeans and saw them as usurpers. The city was taken without any bloodshed or destruction.

Egypt: Jeremiah 46:13 - 26 and Ezek. 30:10, 11 say that Nebuchadrezzar and the Chaldeans would invade and destroy Egypt, filling its land with the dead. This is false. Nebuchadrezzar was on the point of invading Egypt, but had to hasten back to Babylon to secure his accession when he got word that his father, King Nabopolasser, had died. He never did invade Egypt.

Tyre: Ezekiel 26:7 - 12 specifically states that Nebuchadrezzar would destroy the city of Tyre. This is false. Alexander the Great is the one who took the city.
 
Ok, So now I have skimmed most of your post. Still, if this is all the contemporary material there is for a man who supposedly conquered much of the world it just shows just how very scarce contemporary writings can be in the ancient world.

DOC, I have posted this before, but did you know that a city was named after Alexander the Great? I don't know of any city in the world named after Jesus.
 
DOC, I have posted this before, but did you know that a city was named after Alexander the Great? I don't know of any city in the world named after Jesus.


The people of Corpus Christi (Texas), San Salvador (El Salvador), Christchurch (New Zealand) and Salvador (Brazil) would like a word with you.
 

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