Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

[Anders Lindman]

I don't see how this is off-topic. You brought up Einstein. You brought up conspiracy theorists as alternatives to science. You brought up facades of certainty. Every sentence in my post refers to concepts you've raised in the last 45 minutes.

The point is whether you blindly believe in conspiracy theories or whether you were wrong earlier when you said you had no firsthand knowledge of the failures of science. The way I see it, you've painted yourself into a corner.

Well, I am responsible for going off topic. It's time to return to the original topic before it goes too much off on a tangent.

 

[JayUtah]

Well, I am responsible for going off topic. It's time to return to the original topic before it goes too much off on a tangent.

I'm not comfortable returning to some other topic until there is closure on the tangent. You took us all there, so don't leave us hanging. Will you please tell us whether you were wrong about having firsthand knowledge of mainstream science malfeasance, or whether you simply take conspiracy theorists on faith?

 

[Anders Lindman]

I'm not comfortable returning to some other topic until there is closure on the tangent. You took us all there, so don't leave us hanging. Will you please tell us whether you were wrong about having firsthand knowledge of mainstream science malfeasance, or whether you simply take conspiracy theorists on faith?

I don't have firsthand knowledge about any conspiracy. And I have to test for myself what conspiracy theorists say, and also what mainstream science says. One way of doing that is to connect several facts to see if there still is consistency between them.

 

[JayUtah]

I don't have firsthand knowledge about any conspiracy. And I have to test for myself what conspiracy theorists say, and also what mainstream science says.

If those tests don't result in any firsthand knowledge, what value do they have?

One way of doing that is to connect several facts to see if there still is consistency between them.

How would that avoid the fallacy of circular reasoning? Consistency by itself is not truth, thus a test for consistency is not a test for truth. Scientific peer-review tests for consistency, but also for the likelihood of discovering truth. Explain why your method is superior.

 

[Anders Lindman]

"The secret Western plan for a worldwide "magic printing press" began in 1776 with the publication of Adam Smith's "An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations" -- or "The Wealth of Nations" for short.
...
Many strategies are secretly being used to combat this global crisis -- including the trillion-dollar lawsuit mentioned in Section One and in earlier reports I have written.

This entire "Illuminati" financial system is finally breaking open and becoming public -- for the first time since its inception." -- http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny?start=3

 

[Anders Lindman]

Maybe this has already been posted, but anyway it says that the bonds (a part of the bonds in the Dragon Family lawsuit) are real:

"In June 2009, it was reported that 10 so-called billion-dollar "Kennedy Bonds" seized by Italian police were fakes.

Those bonds were reportedly part of a larger bogus bundle of $134 billion in fake federal bonds said to have been seized from Japanese smugglers on the Italian-Swiss border.

But Riad says his bonds are the real deal, and that the Secret Service has indicated as much.

He contacted that agency in mid-2008, then met with two Secret Service agents at his then-lawyer's Houston law office, according to his complaint. ... The agents then contacted Ayers "and informed her that plaintiff had completed the appropriate and required examination and authentication of the Bonds and that the redemption of said bonds did fall under the purview of the BPD, since the Bonds were outstanding government issued securities/debts," according to the complaint." -- http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/23/42507.htm

 

[Craig4]

Maybe this has already been posted, but anyway it says that the bonds (a part of the bonds in the Dragon Family lawsuit) are real:

"In June 2009, it was reported that 10 so-called billion-dollar "Kennedy Bonds" seized by Italian police were fakes.

Those bonds were reportedly part of a larger bogus bundle of $134 billion in fake federal bonds said to have been seized from Japanese smugglers on the Italian-Swiss border.

But Riad says his bonds are the real deal, and that the Secret Service has indicated as much.

He contacted that agency in mid-2008, then met with two Secret Service agents at his then-lawyer's Houston law office, according to his complaint. ... The agents then contacted Ayers "and informed her that plaintiff had completed the appropriate and required examination and authentication of the Bonds and that the redemption of said bonds did fall under the purview of the BPD, since the Bonds were outstanding government issued securities/debts," according to the complaint." -- http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/12/23/42507.htm

You fail to mention that in the same article the BPD says the bonds are fake.

 

[Craig4]

"The secret Western plan for a worldwide "magic printing press" began in 1776 with the publication of Adam Smith's "An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations" -- or "The Wealth of Nations" for short.
...
Many strategies are secretly being used to combat this global crisis -- including the trillion-dollar lawsuit mentioned in Section One and in earlier reports I have written.

This entire "Illuminati" financial system is finally breaking open and becoming public -- for the first time since its inception." -- http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny?start=3

Prove the Illuminati exist.

ETA: As a shadowy secret organization.

 

[Anders Lindman]

You fail to mention that in the same article the BPD says the bonds are fake.

See the first sentence in the quote I posted: "In June 2009, it was reported that 10 so-called billion-dollar "Kennedy Bonds" seized by Italian police were fakes."

 

[Anders Lindman]

Prove the Illuminati exist.

ETA: As a shadowy secret organization.

I'm not sure exactly what Wilcock means by the Illuminati in this case. If I understood the article correctly he says that the Illuminati created the Federal Reserve and the Bank for International Settlements.

In another article he writes:

"The 111-page federal complaint involves a range of entities common to conspiracy theorists, including the Vatican Illuminati, the Masons, the "Trilateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission," and the U.S. Federal Reserve." -- http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

 

[Dancing David]

Yes, I'm pretty certain about that. Take the 'Climategate' scandal for example.

Which wasn't a scandal

 

[TheRedWorm]

Stop. Feeding. The. Troll.

 

[sts60]

^^^ What TheRedWorm said. ^^^

 

[Craig4]

See the first sentence in the quote I posted: "In June 2009, it was reported that 10 so-called billion-dollar "Kennedy Bonds" seized by Italian police were fakes."

The agents referred him to an official at the Bureau of Public Debt (BPD), but when Riad contacted BPD official Donna Ayers, she "categorically denied the existence of bonds such as plaintiff's bonds," according to the complaint.

Pretty much the quality of work I've come to expect from you.

 

[Craig4]

I'm not sure exactly what Wilcock means by the Illuminati in this case. If I understood the article correctly he says that the Illuminati created the Federal Reserve and the Bank for International Settlements.

In another article he writes:

"The 111-page federal complaint involves a range of entities common to conspiracy theorists, including the Vatican Illuminati, the Masons, the "Trilateral Trillenium Tripartite Gold Commission," and the U.S. Federal Reserve." -- http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

Dude, seriously, I know you're not the most discriminating person when it comes to sources but you got taken in by that guy? Wow, you're REALLY far gone. Is there anyone you won't be made a fool by?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Dude, seriously, I know you're not the most discriminating person when it comes to sources but you got taken in by that guy? Wow, you're REALLY far gone. Is there anyone you won't be made a fool by?

Is it possible that Wilcock's sources have given him false information? Sure, but it's also possible that it's truthful information.

 

[Craig4]

Is it possible that Wilcock's sources have given him false information? Sure, but it's also possible that it's truthful information.

Go on thinking that.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Is it possible that Wilcock's sources have given him false information? Sure, but it's also possible that it's truthful information.

And, again, it's possible that you're a pedophile. What good are possibilities if you can't (or refuse to) narrow them down to a single reality?

 

[kevsta]

Is it possible that Wilcock's sources have given him false information? Sure, but it's also possible that it's truthful information.

even Wilcox himself is skeptical of your claims..

 

[Anders Lindman]

"The takedown of the satanic cabal is proceeding smoothly

Despite widespread pessimism on the part of many truth seekers about the situation in the G5 terrorist states, behind the scenes the satanic cabalists in control of the Western central banks are in a state of extreme fear. One reason is that US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told a White Dragon Society representative last week that the Pentagon and the US agencies were in no mood to let off the cabalists with a truth and reconciliation committee. “We have been watching these guys for a long time” he said and the conclusion reached was that Federal Reserve Board needs to be dismantled and the cabalists jailed. The 65% drop in the Baltic Dry Index (the price of shipping) this year is one visible sign of the dismantling. This is related to a growing global boycott of the G5 terrorist states as seen in the growing number of countries refusing to use US dollars or Euros for trade. Another sign was the stoppage on February 3rd of the Federal Reserve Board owned Clearing House Interbank Payments System. Under the surface much more radical events are being planned." -- Full story (for paying members): http://benjaminfulford.net/2012/02/07/the-takedown-of-the-satanic-cabal-is-proceeding-smoothly/