'House' episode offends asexuals

Babbylonian said:
The problem is that nobody - conservative or liberal - cares one bit about people who choose to be asexual (or are born that way - I don't know the claims or the science), so the organization jumped on this for the chance to whine in public about mistreatment. It's likely to be the first and last time most people will ever hear about them.
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Meanwhile, over in Nonamericanmedialand:

BBC News: What is it like to be asexual?

Recent, but pre-dates and is unconnected to the House episode.
 
Babbylonian said:
Obviously, people can choose to be asexual. Just as obviously, asexuality can be thrust upon them (so to speak). The former might be interesting in, say, a legal drama (perhaps a divorce case?); the latter is what works for a medical show.
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Is this really obvious?
Can we choose to be gay or straight?

Obviously people can choose to behave as if they are asexual. But that may have costs.
I can behave as if I'm left handed, but I'll drop a lot of stuff in the process.
 
zooterkin said:
Really? I wouldn't be too sure of that.
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House is a genius who routinely saves people nobody else could. But he is also an arrogant, manipulative, drug-addicted jerk. Not to mention a felon. I can't see how any atheist/skeptic would want him as their posterboy.
 
So these big babies get mad when someone gets their disease treated? Reminds me of these freaks who scream at the fascist government for treating their schizophrenic delusions.
 
anyone who ever complains about a negative portrayal of their demographic group is both whining and a baby, except when I do it about mine.
 
Yeesh, what a pitiful thread. Complaining about Political Correctness and wearing our ignorance as a badge of honour? Who are you people?
 
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One of House's basic personality traits is that he never thinks anybody is "just like that". He looks for hidden motives and reasons behind every action everybody takes and every emotion everybody has. This is a guy who tells nuns to their face that they are delusional for being religious, that tells mothers that they don't really love their babies. That once found out a teenage girl was really male, and joked that the father who sexually abused her is technically gay now. To the dad's face... in front of the girl. And this is how he revealed that she was really male.

He routinely pulls apart people's love lives and accuses them of selfish motivations for everything they do. He absolutely would do this for sexual orientation - and indeed has. Just listen to the kinds of things he says to Thirteen about her bisexuality or Wilson about pretty much every relationship he's ever had.

Accusing asexual people of being that way for some reason, or of lying about it? That's not even eyebrow raising when it comes to House.
 
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Babbylonian said:
I admit to total ignorance of any asexuality movement, if one exists as such, but I have to ask: Does anyone need to have awareness of asexuality? Are they victims of prejudice and I just haven't heard about it?
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Prejudice of a sort exists. It's not like people go around persecuting you or anything, but those who don't engage in relationships tend to be thought of as rather odd. The fact that you aren't part of a couple can be quite awkward at social events. People tend to assume that you're gay and don't want to admit it, or some such - more so when you've never been married rather than being separated or divorced. It can, in some cases, have work repercussions when you're middle aged and still single.
 
The Dark Lord said:
Nah, he dated Cuddy and hires hookers.

He is an atheist and a skeptic. Though not one people here would want as a posterboy.
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And why? Ambrose Bierce said it best: (A cynic is) A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.

He'd be very welcome here.


As for asexuality, he has a healthy skepticism about it. What's House's favorite saying?


Come on, everybuddy. I know you all know it! What's House's favorite saying?
 
Beerina said:
And why? Ambrose Bierce said it best: (A cynic is) A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.

He'd be very welcome here.


As for asexuality, he has a healthy skepticism about it. What's House's favorite saying?


Come on, everybuddy. I know you all know it! What's House's favorite saying?
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"Everybody lies", I assume.

I don't watch the show religiously (heh), but I've seen enough episodes to know that House is a sarcastic, misogynistic, misanthropic, drug-addicted bastage who will make fun of or ridicule anybody or anything and will regularly be EXTREMELY un-PC simply because he can. The idea that he'd poke fun at asexuals is not all that surprising as a result. Every episode has him poking fun at his patients in one way or another, or Wilson's patients, or the patients in the clinic, or any other doctor's patients he can get a decent look at long enough to decide they're interesting. I would say the asexuals need to grow the heck up and realize that it's a TV SHOW.

My personal opinion though.
 
Sabrina said:
"Everybody lies", I assume.

I don't watch the show religiously (heh), but I've seen enough episodes to know that House is a sarcastic, misogynistic, misanthropic, drug-addicted bastage who will make fun of or ridicule anybody or anything and will regularly be EXTREMELY un-PC simply because he can. The idea that he'd poke fun at asexuals is not all that surprising as a result. Every episode has him poking fun at his patients in one way or another, or Wilson's patients, or the patients in the clinic, or any other doctor's patients he can get a decent look at long enough to decide they're interesting. I would say the asexuals need to grow the heck up and realize that it's a TV SHOW.

My personal opinion though.
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It is also shared by me, and I think it's fair to point out to some here that defending a deliberately disturbing or controversial plotline is not the same as defending that viewpoint. I've watched many gangster movies, and I've never once thought that breaking someone's kneecaps with a baseball bat was acceptable behavior. Similarly, I wouldn't act like House, even though he often makes me laugh. Let's try to put things into perspective.
 
Puppycow said:
If the character had been gay instead, and House found that it was actually a tumor that was causing him to be gay, and his husband/boyfriend was just pretending to be gay, would that be not be offensive?

It's the notion that somewhere inside every asexual or gay person there's really a straight person trying to get out.
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HAve you guys, you know, watched house before?

Its an okay show but very formulaic, i would say if you sat down you could come up with maybe 8 different ways an episode goes. One of the major ones is , " Person is acting in an odd way, house believes this is a medical condition while others believe it is their personality, turns out to be a medical condition as house is seldom, if ever wrong."

This has happened with altruism, bondage, and religious fervor. And that is off of the top of my head, sans episode guide, before i have even had a smoke or coffee in the morning. If i were to comb over the seasons, i could come up with at least a dozen more, enough to fill a season.

What we are seeing is not some societal construct meant to keep the asexual down, but simply a concept that is over used in the series, but keeps getting used due to the fact it is a popular episode format.

Might as well say house is racist because of the way he treated Cuddy, something that one may get the vibe from if they viewed a random episode, but something that is simply untrue when one looks at the series in any other way than looking to be offended.
 
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