Larry Silverstein explaining what he meant by 'pull it'

[sheeplesnshills]

So Larry was somewhat deceptive to make him look better, but you take him at his word when he says "it" means a plural group of firefighters. Got it. Do you see the contortions you have to go through to make sense of Larry's bizarre comments?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

"but you take him at his word when he says "it" means a plural group of firefighters."

no we take it as meaning "it" as a a description of the fire fighting and rescue operation around WTC7 and the debris pile. It would be strange if he used "her" or "him", but not remotely strange to use "it".

Its you, that is jumping through bizarre hoops trying to make it mean what it does not....and its you that has to prove your case. You are not succeeding.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Actually Larry had ironed out most of the wrinkles before he and his children skipped their usual breakfast on 9/11 at the Tower restaurant.

source? was it even open when the plane hit? I believe not.....

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Larry said "THEY" (the FDNY) MADE THE DECISION. Apparently in your world it means... "I SAID BLOW UP MA BUILDING CHIEF, I WANT THAT THAR INSURANCE MONEY!!!!"

Now, since you've ignored the previous point I'll ask you again. Would you want to be around a 47 story building that you thought was going to collapse?

And once again., You want us to believe instead that Larry casually admitted, in a pre-recorded documentary, to fraud and conspiracy with the FDNY to rig WTC7 in a few hours with super secret nano thermite to demolish a building in a way never used before or since without anyone noticing.

and a fraud that would lose him money............

 

[000063]

Actually Larry had ironed out most of the wrinkles before he and his children skipped their usual breakfast on 9/11 at the Tower restaurant.

So what? I normally eat at McD's on the way to school. Sometimes I fry an egg.

 

[NoahFence]

Actually Larry had ironed out most of the wrinkles before he and his children skipped their usual breakfast on 9/11 at the Tower restaurant.

...and that has what to do with the crash at the Pentagon?

 

[twinstead]

I would imagine in Clayton's mind, anybody who normally would have been in the WTC that morning but for whatever reason wasn't is suspect. I say we round them up and interrogate them.

 

[Firestone]

I would imagine in Clayton's mind, anybody who normally would have been in the WTC that morning but for whatever reason wasn't is suspect. I say we round them up and interrogate them.

Good idea!

Let's start with William Rodriguez:

It’s a miracle Rodriguez, 44, who worked at the WTC for 20 years, is even alive. Usually arriving to work at 8:30am, the morning of 9/11 he reported 30 minutes late. If he’d arrived on time, it would have put him at the top floors just about the same time the jetliner hit the north tower.

"It was a miracle. If I arrived on time, like always, I’d probably be dead. I would have been up at the top floors like every morning," said Rodriguez about the quirk of fate that saved his life.

But since he was late, Rodriguez found himself checking into work in an office on sub-level 1 when the north tower was hit, seemingly out of harms way. However, the sound and concussion of a massive explosion in the sub-levels right below his feet changed that.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/archive/index.php/t-112218.html

(bolding mine)

 

[RedIbis]

Yes, IT. The rescue efforts going on around WTC7. You're the one that apparently sees no danger of being near a 47 story building that collapses unless you're inside it.



Larry said "THEY" (the FDNY) MADE THE DECISION. Apparently in your world it means... "I SAID BLOW UP MA BUILDING CHIEF, I WANT THAT THAR INSURANCE MONEY!!!!"

It's sport only that compels me to participate on a topic I've bored myself with, but what the hell. In your mind instead of saying, pull them back, pull them away or get those guys out of there, saying, "the smartest thing to do is pull it and we watched the building collapse" is a reference to a non-existent firefighting operation and then immediately saying "we watched the building collapse" should not be read sequentially as if the clauses are not related at all. That's a stretch.

 

[Edx]

It's sport only that compels me to participate on a topic I've bored myself with, but what the hell. In your mind instead of saying, pull them back, pull them away or get those guys out of there, saying, "the smartest thing to do is pull it and we watched the building collapse" is a reference to a non-existent firefighting operation and then immediately saying "we watched the building collapse" should not be read sequentially as if the clauses are not related at all. That's a stretch.

For goodness sake Red, would you want to be underneath an 47 story building if you thought it was going to collapse?
When WTC1 and 2 collapsed, were people at risk ONLY if they were inside the building, or do you believe as soon as they stepped onto the street they were absolutely fine?

The collapse zone was not the street outside WTC7, the pull back order was not just to leave the building. Why cant you understand that?

That's a stretch.

A stretch? You want us to believe that Larry casually admitted, in a pre-recorded documentary, to fraud and conspiracy with the FDNY to rig WTC7 in a few hours with super secret nano thermite to demolish a building in a way never used before or since without anyone noticing. Sorry Red, THATS a stretch.

 

[NoahFence]

It's sport only that compels me to participate on a topic I've bored myself with, but what the hell. In your mind instead of saying, pull them back, pull them away or get those guys out of there, saying, "the smartest thing to do is pull it and we watched the building collapse" is a reference to a non-existent firefighting operation and then immediately saying "we watched the building collapse" should not be read sequentially as if the clauses are not related at all. That's a stretch.

Why are you bored with it? Your inability to finish it? To come to and discuss your conclusion?

 

[NoahFence]

A stretch? You want us to believe that Larry casually admitted, in a pre-recorded documentary, to fraud and conspiracy with the FDNY to rig WTC7 in a few hours with super secret nano thermite to demolish a building in a way never used before or since without anyone noticing. Sorry Red, THATS a stretch.

Its amazing. They require Silverstein (and everybody else connected with 9/11) to be criminal masterminds, AND completely stupid at the same time.

If Silverstein really was connected, he never would have agreed to the interview in the first place.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Can I please be blunt? Why the hell are we still wasting time with people who haven't taken reading comprehension as part of a required rudimentary education? Is it not enough that the classic pull it derail doesn't even get the meaning of the "pull it" jargon right?

The OP got it's answer... the rest of the "pull it" fiasco is so brain dead stupid it's lost any attractive entertainment value once you figure out the people you're arguing with can't process information to begin with.

 

[Clayton Moore]

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

er? Did he just tell a fib?


What kind of loop are we talking here?


Seems to me a fire commander would discuss the status of WTC7 with the mayor. Why would a fire commander call Lucky Larry? Or even be given his number?

Methinks Lucky Larry wasn't talking to a fire commander. He was talking to someone who wanted his input. Probably someone higher in the scheme chain than Lucky Larry.

The usage of the pink pronouns is kind of convoluted.

 

[Edx]

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

er? Did he just tell a fib?

Where exactly is the "fib?" According to you guys he is both admitting to conspiracy and fraud and lying about why and how at the same time and only you notice.

We've just been over this and over this, are you ignoring all the posts on this on purpose?

Seems to me a fire commander would discuss the status of WTC7 with the mayor. Why would a fire commander call Lucky Larry? Or even be given his number?

Larry is the biggest property developer in NYC what with the WTC buildings being the heart of the city. It was a courtesy call, to say that his building was in danger of collapse and they arent going to be able to fight the fire and they were going to pull everyone back as it wasnt worth the risk. What Larry said is exactly what the FDNY had been saying all day.

No truther ever deals with this... Why is it more reasonable to think that Larry casually admitted, in a pre-recorded documentary, to fraud and conspiracy with the FDNY to rig WTC7 in a few hours with super secret nano thermite to demolish a building in a way never used before or since without anyone noticing?

Methinks Lucky Larry wasn't talking to a fire commander. He was talking to someone who wanted his input. Probably someone higher in the scheme chain than Lucky Larry.

Maybe it was a fire chief, but there were many Commanders
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/publications/md00_p09_divisioncomm.shtml

 

[NoahFence]

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

er? Did he just tell a fib?


What kind of loop are we talking here?


Seems to me a fire commander would discuss the status of WTC7 with the mayor. Why would a fire commander call Lucky Larry? Or even be given his number?

Methinks Lucky Larry wasn't talking to a fire commander. He was talking to someone who wanted his input. Probably someone higher in the scheme chain than Lucky Larry.

The usage of the pink pronouns is kind of convoluted.

THEY made the decision. THEM. The fire department, not Silverstein. For chrissake you provided the quote!

If anybody thinks Larry Silverstein had any say in what the firefighters did that day, they are dumber than a box of rocks. AND LYING.

Period.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Methinks Lucky Larry wasn't talking to a fire commander. He was talking to someone who wanted his input. Probably someone higher in the scheme chain than Lucky Larry.

He was talking to someone higher up in the "scheme chain" than himself: Fire Department Chief Daniel Nigro (see Edx's correction below). Silverstein had no authority to dictate to the fire department that they should continue working in the shadow of a building of questionable structural integrity.

 

[plague311]

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

er? Did he just tell a fib?


What kind of loop are we talking here?


Seems to me a fire commander would discuss the status of WTC7 with the mayor. Why would a fire commander call Lucky Larry? Or even be given his number?

Methinks Lucky Larry wasn't talking to a fire commander. He was talking to someone who wanted his input. Probably someone higher in the scheme chain than Lucky Larry.

The usage of the pink pronouns is kind of convoluted.

Maybe, just maybe when he says "we've" he's referring to NYC as a whole, since he lives there and it's his home. He feels that, as a person that's apart of the city, he is including himself in the pain. You guys aren't good at realizing what people mean when they say things. I am a Yanks fan, have been for YEARS. I love NYC as a whole. When the Yanks are doing well\poor and I am talking to someone, I refer to we. "We're on a 5 game winning streak."

Do I play for the Yanks? No. I am chubby. Do I manage\GM\etc for the Yanks? Nope.

 

[aggle-rithm]

It's sport only that compels me to participate on a topic I've bored myself with, but what the hell. In your mind instead of saying, pull them back, pull them away or get those guys out of there, saying, "the smartest thing to do is pull it and we watched the building collapse" is a reference to a non-existent firefighting operation and then immediately saying "we watched the building collapse" should not be read sequentially as if the clauses are not related at all. That's a stretch.

Careful. The same could be said for the previous phrase, "There's been such a terrible loss of life already".

 

[Brass]

Here's a simple question for the twoofers;

If Larry Silverstein has so much power and control over everything, including power to pull of these scheme, then why doesn't he have the power to edit out his "slip" of saying "pull it" from appearing in the final video?

I'll sit here, not worrying about little black helicopters following me everyday while you guys ponder over that.

Well, since no one from the Truth Movement here will touch this, allow me to do something you'll never hear from them.

"Wow. That's actually a very good point. I haven't really looked into it like that or examined it from that viewpoint. Perhaps I should do a little more research, kick back and critically think about this some more, rather than think of excuses that make no sense."

I feel better.

 

[Edx]

He was talking to someone higher up in the "scheme chain" than himself: Fire Department Chief Daniel Nigro. Silverstein really had no authority to dictate to the fire department that they should continue working in the shadow of a building of questionable structural integrity.

Correction: Nigro says he didnt talk to Silverstein.

But there were lots of FDNY Commanders so it could have been any of them. I think its also possible it was some fire chief or even some assistant to a Commander that was calling on their behalf.