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The Genesis Seal

1332 ... double beast... oohhh... watch out.

443556... beast multiplied by beast. Even worse than double beast.

ok... the beast jokes have been the most useful part of this thread so far.
 
MRC_Hans said:
What do you mean? Wouldn't it be more surprising if a lot of combinations fit?

Anyhow, you are also pick events that fit. In short, you have a whole lot of combinations and a whole lot of events to pick from. Small wonder that some of them fit together. Imagine a big box of assorted nuts, and a big box of assorted bolts: There will be some that fit.

The sad lack of wonder is because we are realists.

Hans
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The thing about nuts and bolts is that they come in a limited number of sizes.
Even in biblical times, there were more than five thousand independent spellings of valid Hebrew words. However, some are homonyms (like the English E-N-T-R-A-N-C-E). The Genesis Seal reveals 100 words altogether (unless I have missed some), all of which have been picked up by one author or another and woven into well-known texts of old.
I know you will appeal to the flexibility of language, and you would be right. In answer to this, I appeal to the way in which groups of those words are picked up as groups for use in those texts. Out of the many examples I have already presented, I will repeat just one from my Grail Quest post.

This is the combination of bread and wine inconjunction with the image of the chalice version of the Grail, seen here in Figure 27:



Another kind of relationship used enthusiastically by past authors is the conjunction of graphical images. One example is the above image of the chalice. The real image of the chalice is in the G1 Square, so that Figure 27 shows only an echo of its stem in the G2 Square. Even so, it is significant that in this illustration, the letters of the word for 'womb' now replace the cup portion of the chalice. Perhaps the best example of this type is the one seen in the 4x7 matrix of qatan letter values, based only on Genesis 1:1, shown here by Figure 28:


This is undoubtedly the inspiration for Wolfram von Eschenbach's description of the Grail King's unhealing wound. Referring to the parts of Figure 28, recall that the young king had received a wound to his scrotum (part c) from a lance-head (part a) impregnated with the venom of a serpent (part b).

You should know that I could cite many more examples, but I'm not sure anyone else in this thread will be impressed, no matter how much evidence is presented.
 
I'm starting to feel like we need a genuine psychiatrist in here, to do whatever the forum post version is of "It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault."

...either that or the author of the original book of genesis genuinely did code in a scrotum for use in a story written in a different language, over 1500 years later, by people who most likely did not even speak the original language, let alone spend their time poring over random mathematical patterns in ancient texts for inspiration for their stories.
 
stokes234 said:
It's not a very limited pot of combinations. Your mathematical patterns are extremely sketchy, ranging from mathematical formulae to references in historical text and even to pictures which you think kind of look like things. There are millions of possible combinations of numbers in an 8x8 grid which could match a bit of a historical text, or fit part of a formula of some description, or vaguely look like something. Hell, just imagine the combinations of numbers which would fit a bible verse and chapter. You're finding combinations so easily because you are allowing an extremely wide range of options for what you consider to be designed, rather than random. It's Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, as has already been explained to you.

If you were able to make a prediction, such as "I believe Leonardo da Vinci's helicopter design used calculations from this pattern", and you were then able to go back and find actual instructions for a helicopter, you would be onto something. But you can't do that, because this is actually a random set of letters that you have become so invested in, you cannot accept that you're deluded because it would mean admitting to yourself that so much effort expended was a waste of time, and that would be very difficult to take even for the strongest of characters. I only hope that after a while, you realise that you have not, in fact, cracked a secret code that has somehow influenced all of history, but have merely deluded yourself just as millions of others have done before you. Good luck.
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You're missing an important point here. I am categorically not suggesting that the Genesis Seal foresaw anything in its own future, along the lines of your hypothetical helicopter example.

Also, its simply not true that I am allowing an 'extremely wide range of options' in my selections. Broadly speaking, I have allowed a rather small number of options that the Genesis Seal itself utilises repeatedly, especially in identical locations in the four views.

Even if I were to cave in to the pressure in this thread, in the end it hardly matters whether I am deluding myself about the objective reality of the encrypted content. It is just as important that there is evidence that others in the past trod the same path as myself. The evidence exists almost entirely in a wide range of well-known literature, with just a little in the historical record of what was happening at the same time the literature was being written.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Sure, but there are other sixes in that matrix, see below. Now where is your nice pattern?

Again, even on this level, you pick what fits your purpose, and ignore the rest.

Hans
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I'm really glad you offer that example of a fallacy. In fact three of those extra 6s are especially well placed, since they do not move during the G1 to G2 transformation. Only the three in the symmetrical V-shape move, thus aligning with five others into a continuous, meandering sequence.
What is more, the places that were occupied by the three in the V-formation are replaced by the letters that may spell either rechem (a womb) or romech (a spear).

It is this kind of dynamic organisation that must have blown the socks off the more educated of our mediaeval forebears. Always remembering they did not have a scientific toolkit with which to assess what they saw.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
You're missing an important point here. I am categorically not suggesting that the Genesis Seal foresaw anything in its own future, along the lines of your hypothetical helicopter example.
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You said that the authors of Genesis encoded the story of King Arthur's death, which is absurd.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
I'm really glad you offer that example of a fallacy. In fact three of those extra 6s are especially well placed, since they do not move during the G1 to G2 transformation. Only the three in the symmetrical V-shape move, thus aligning with five others into a continuous, meandering sequence.
What is more, the places that were occupied by the three in the V-formation are replaced by the letters that may spell either rechem (a womb) or romech (a spear).

It is this kind of dynamic organisation that must have blown the socks off the more educated of our mediaeval forebears. Always remembering they did not have a scientific toolkit with which to assess what they saw.
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And how did the tribesmen who wrote Genesis know that King Arthur would be killed by a spear wound to the groin?
 
dafydd said:
The number of the beast is 616. 666 is the fax number of the beast.

http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/poxy/beast616.htm
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The earliest manuscript copies of the NT book of Revelation quoted either 616 or 666 as alternatives. We could debate the meaning of these numbers until the cows come home. But here is an image that the original author could well have had in front of him:



Without repeating everything I have presented previously, the 3x3 square zone that shows a 616 over 666 has additional functions in both biblical and extra-biblical literature.
 
dafydd said:
And how did the tribesmen who wrote Genesis know that King Arthur would be killed by a spear wound to the groin?
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I don't know how many times I need to keep saying the same thing.

The author of the first two verses of Genesis did not know what the future might hold. Many centuries after it attained the form in which we now know it, certain madiaeval writers sharing the same adapted view of those verses wrote stories that were their own interpretations. However, their stories contain differences that can be explained by assuming they shared the same source, which is the Genesis Seal.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
..It is this kind of dynamic organisation that must have blown the socks off the more educated of our mediaeval forebears. Always remembering they did not have a scientific toolkit with which to assess what they saw.
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What does your scientific toolkit tell you? From what I can see, you may as well be mediaeval. Don't slag 'em if your gonna copy 'em.
 
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