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UFOs: The Research, the Evidence

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ufology said:
Tauri,

Actually my apologies, I never noticed you were a girl.
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You never noticed that a firefly was a firely.

But you're so feisty you'll probably take that as a compliment anyway. And if you really want to argue about UFOs that's cool. It's just that I didn't come here to argue so much as to find skeptics who can write constructive skeptical articles that I can post on our website to help give it balance. <snipped commercial plug> The reason I get drawn into the arguments here is to provide food for thought for those who watch but don't participate and to let people hesitant to become involved for fear of ridicule know that not everyone here is going to attack them.
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No, the reason you create these arguments so that you can try to convince yourself that you really do believe in Alien Space Ships.
 
ufology said:
It's just that I didn't come here to argue so much as to find skeptics who can write constructive skeptical articles that I can post on our website to help give it balance.
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Well, at least you're honest (even if it was by accident) -- you're looking to increase your hits to jack up the cash, and you figure that if you can convince some people to write articles that on the surface are "skeptical" but which don't actually contain any of that pesky skepticism, you'll be the clever one.

Let me guess. The approval process for "skeptical" articles would just accidentally happen to exclude all those articles that demonstrated the fact that nobody has yet ever provided solid, verifiable evidence that aliens exist?
 
ufology said:
And if you really want to argue about UFOs that's cool.
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What's to argue? Unidentified flying objects are ubiquitous.

It's just that I didn't come here to argue so much as to find skeptics who can write constructive skeptical articles that I can post on our website to help give it balance.
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It took you 7 months and over 1700 posts to get around to saying that? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who doesn't believe there's a mote of truth in that comment.

I've just added a retail book section on Skepticism and Critical Thinking.
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From all the evidence we've seen in this thread, "ufology", being a position of faith akin to a religion, has nothing to do with critical thinking.

The reason I get drawn into the arguments here is to provide food for thought for those who watch but don't participate and to let people hesitant to become involved for fear of ridicule know that not everyone here is going to attack them.
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I'm guessing the lurkers here realize that "ufology" is an unsupportable faith. After all, it has been exposed for the sham pseudoscience that it is.
 
ufology said:
Tauri,

Actually my apologies, I never noticed you were a girl.
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Hmmm... really?

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Not very observant, are you? :D
 
Capeche Incident

I read the CSI account of the Campeche incident, but it doesn't mention any attempted intercept by a military jet corroborated by radar as has been mentioned here. Does anyone have a link to that information?
 
ufology said:
I read the CSI account of the Campeche incident, but it doesn't mention any attempted intercept by a military jet corroborated by radar as has been mentioned here. Does anyone have a link to that information?
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Try Wikipedia... oh wait.
 
ufology said:
Tauri,

Actually my apologies, I never noticed you were a girl. But you're so feisty you'll probably take that as a compliment anyway. And if you really want to argue about UFOs that's cool. It's just that I didn't come here to argue so much as to find skeptics who can write constructive skeptical articles that I can post on our website to help give it balance. I've just added a retail book section on Skepticism and Critical Thinking. The reason I get drawn into the arguments here is to provide food for thought for those who watch but don't participate and to let people hesitant to become involved for fear of ridicule know that not everyone here is going to attack them.
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And? Why did you feel the need to tell us that?

Have you read any of the books you're trying to sell in the new section?
 
ufology said:
AdMan said:
Hmmm... really?

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Not very observant, are you? :D
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Ya you got me on that one Tauri ... good slam there. Now try and go easy on me for a while OK. I'm sensitive about being picked on by girls. ;)
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Odd. You are responding to a post by AdMan, but addressing it to 23 Tauri as if she made the slam and talking about being picked on by girls. Your observations skills are truly a wonder to behold.

How are you going to waffle your way out of this one?
 
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RoboTimbo said:
How are you going to waffle your way out of this one?
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Just like every other post that catches him out on his deceptions, he'll ignore it until someone posts one that he can try to twist and be vague about.

...Just like he's done to every post that highlights his admission that he's only here to get hits for his website.
 
Krikkiter said:
Have you read any of the books you're trying to sell in your new section ufology?
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I've got a few skeptical and have titles and have listed them here before, but I'd like to have a closer look at some of the more recent titles. I'll have to check here at Indigo though because ironically I can't order books off my own site because it violates Amazon's associate rules. You could however always buy one for me and send it as a gift for the library.
 
ufology said:
I've got a few skeptical and have titles and have listed them here before, but I'd like to have a closer look at some of the more recent titles. I'll have to check here at Indigo though because ironically I can't order books off my own site because it violates Amazon's associate rules. You could however always buy one for me and send it as a gift for the library.
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I'll take that as a no.

As a follow-up question, can you, in your own words, describe what you think "research" involves? I'm not after a copy/paste definition from Wikipedia or any other source, I want to know what YOU think it involves.
 
ufology said:
Yes stories about UFOs are quite wonderful actually. They fire the imagination and grab our curiosity.
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But not as much as stories about witches. Are there any ufologists who have made more money from their stories of aliens than J.K. Rowling has with her stories about witches?
 
ufology said:
Paul,

Before you make the assertions that I am "dead wrong" please take the time to consider the relevant information:
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You are creating a straw man, a straw man about what I said you were dead wrong about.

I did not say you were dead wrong that Campeche was a fair comparison or not to the D.C. incident. You said that Campeche was irrelevant merely because it was not the D.C. incident:

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How predictable, if you can't deny, dismmiss or move the goalposts, you switch the subject matter and substitute something else that suits your argument. Please address the case in question, not the Campeche case.
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You did not say that Campeche wasn't analogous because radar isn't FLIR, etc. You said it was moving goalposts because Campeche is not Washington D.C.

You may think this is a minor point, but a logical chain is no more strong than its weakest link.
 
ufology said:
Krikkiter said:
Have you read any of the books you're trying to sell in your new section ufology?
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I've got a few skeptical and have titles and have listed them here before, but I'd like to have a closer look at some of the more recent titles. I'll have to check here at Indigo though because ironically I can't order books off my own site because it violates Amazon's associate rules. You could however always buy one for me and send it as a gift for the library. No.
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Fixed that for you.
 
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