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Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

The article below talks about extensive evidence :eek::

"The legal filing is the result of extensive evidence gathering by international police and law-enforcement agencies including Interpol, the CIA, the Japanese Security Police and several Eastern European secret services. The action has the backing of the Pentagon and the armed forces of Russia and China." -- http://coupmedia.org/occupy-wall-street/lawsuit-threatens-federal-reserve-irs-and-nsa-3012

But how to confirm this I don't know. :confused:


Your quotation talks about "extensive evidence gathering", not "extensive evidence". Does the article present any of the evidence that this "extensive evidence gathering" gathered?
 
Your quotation talks about "extensive evidence gathering", not "extensive evidence". Does the article present any of the evidence that this "extensive evidence gathering" gathered?

Ok, yes extensive evidence gathering, not extensive evidence. My reading comprehension sucks sometimes. :mad:

And I didn't find anything backing up the claim about extensive evidence gathering. It's a very big claim so a confirmation is needed before it can be taken seriously. Anyway, I thought it was interesting information.
 
It's a court hearing. Evidence has to be submitted and recorded ahead of time. You keep talking asthoughitissomething that will somehow be revealed later in the procedings. It isn't.

I can't find evidence in the document, you don't have any, so we can reasonably deduce there is noevidence and your insistance this court case in any way represents the truth, or a possible truth, or anything but finction and baseless lies about vatican super assassin spies controling the un is pointless.
 
It's a court hearing. Evidence has to be submitted and recorded ahead of time. You keep talking asthoughitissomething that will somehow be revealed later in the procedings. It isn't.

I can't find evidence in the document, you don't have any, so we can reasonably deduce there is noevidence and your insistance this court case in any way represents the truth, or a possible truth, or anything but finction and baseless lies about vatican super assassin spies controling the un is pointless.

I see that you are located in the UK. Does the same rules about evidence having to be submitted beforehand apply to the U.S. court in this case?
 
Yes, every country that derives its legal system from the English model does so. Off the top of my head that will include the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc.

The English legal system is likely the element of colonialism that generates the fewest complaints.
 
Yes, every country that derives its legal system from the English model does so. Off the top of my head that will include the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the US, etc.

The English legal system is likely the element of colonialism that generates the fewest complaints.

So evidence for the Dragon Family lawsuit has already been presented to the court? :confused: And accepted?
 
the Notes were printed to appear as if they were not produced from official origin and bear obvious imperfections, therefore easily deniable.

Lol. So they are real but look like fakes so that the issuer can deny they are real?

I will have to try that with some fake Rolex watches I saw on the Internet.
 
You wrote that I'm not taken seriously. Which means that you do connect my role with what significance it has. Otherwise you wouldn't be concerned about me being taken seriously or not. That's what significance is about. So your logic is flawed.

My role is to present the case as an independent party. I thought you had figured that out by now. Again, this shows how weak your reasoning skills are. Maybe that's why you need to ask the same question a zillion times, eh?

If you answered the question the first time I wouldn't ask it a second. What impact do you believe you have or will have as an independent party?
 
So evidence for the Dragon Family lawsuit has already been presented to the court? :confused: And accepted?

First it would have to be served on the Defendants. Service has to be effected in accordance with the rules of the court, and generally means that you have given a copy of the lawsuit to either the actual person named in the lawsuit, or their agent. In the case of organizations, corporations, government bodies this means taht you have given it to a responsible officer of the organization, corporation, government body. This is going to be fairly challenging in this case:

a. the OITC is apparently a ficticious organization set up for the purposes of scamming people;
b. The Italian Financial Police are a part of the Italian military. Generally, most countries don't allow you to sue a part of the government structure (like a unit of the military), but have you bring the action against the government as a whole. For example in Canada, you would name either the Attorney General of Canada, or Her Majesty the Queen in Right of Canada, not the 1st Battalion the Royal Canadian Regiment.;
c. The World Economic Forum isn't a US corporation or organization.

While the mechanism of service varies with each jurisdiction, service requires that the other party be made aware that there is an action against them.

Once everyone is served then people have to respond - usually you file a Statment of Defence, or a Notice of Intent to Defend if you can't respond to all the allegations before the time alloted to file the defence runs out.

Then the parties will exchange documents, schedule examinations of the witneses, and after all that may get to a trial if they don't settle before hand.

What is more likely in this case is that one or more of the parties will make an application to the court to have the case dismissed as showing no reasonable grounds on which the defendant is liable for the harm to the plaintiff (no cause of action), or that the court has no jurisdiction to hear the case.

I would wager that this won't get past the motion stage. But due to restrictions on court time won't be heard for some time yet.
 
If you answered the question the first time I wouldn't ask it a second. What impact do you believe you have or will have as an independent party?

IF the lawsuit turns out to be correct, then I will be way ahead of the curve when the story hits mainstream big time. :cool:
 
What is more likely in this case is that one or more of the parties will make an application to the court to have the case dismissed as showing no reasonable grounds on which the defendant is liable for the harm to the plaintiff (no cause of action), or that the court has no jurisdiction to hear the case.

If it's enough that only one of defendants can show no reasonable ground to have the lawsuit dismissed, then the situation can be shaky for the plaintiff since there are 16 separate defendants!
 
Profiting you how?

The Dragon Family can then hire me for a huge sum of ca$h! :D Because I will then be an expert on the case. Well, maybe not. At least it would be good to be well prepared if the lawsuit turns into a huge media story.
 
If it's enough that only one of defendants can show no reasonable ground to have the lawsuit dismissed, then the situation can be shaky for the plaintiff since there are 16 separate defendants!


Given that the lawsuit doesn't indicate that several of the individually named defendants (who appear to have been named because they were apparently heads of the respective government or corporate bodies at the time) are not alleged to have done anything themselves and a court would consider that if there is no claim against the organization, that there is no claim against the individual.

The only individual against whom there are specific allegations of misfeasance is this Dal Bosco character, whom I suspect is a false identity for a conman using the OITC fraud as a cover.
 
So evidence for the Dragon Family lawsuit has already been presented to the court? :confused: And accepted?

No. A civil complain contains only allegations. All that is required for a court to accept a lawsuit is that the suit not be patently frivolous and implausible on its face. The plaintiff need only state what he alleges "upon belief and information." There is no standard of proof at this stage beyond avoiding the absurd. If you attempt to sue Santa Claus, the court will not accept your suit.

The purpose of a trial is to determine whether the plaintiff's allegations are supported by evidence. At this stage the standard of proof typically requires clear and convincing evidence.

But before a trial is scheduled there is a preliminary hearing at which the plaintiff must present his evidence. He does not have to prove that his allegations are true at this point, only that his evidence has merit enough for the court to proceed to trial.

For example, if I sue a contractor for the return of his fee alleging that the work was not done according to the terms of the contract, the court will naturally accept my complaint as a valid enough form of complaint. Suits over breaches of contract are common, and there is nothing in the complain that seems unreasonable.

Even if I were to file suit claiming that my coworkers had conspired to harm me by infecting my office telephone with pathogens, it would still be accepted. (This, by the way, was an actual civil suit filed in my district.) Even though the meat of the complain smacks of unfounded paranoia, there is nothing unreasonable in it. The complaint in question was accepted.

But if I were to file suit claiming that my contractor put a hex on my house while pouring a new concrete porch, the lawsuit would be rejected because the court does not adjudicate upon the supernatural. Since the complaint itself alleges an absurdity, it can be rejected on its face.

Two of the cases above would advance to preliminary hearings. In the contractor case, I would be expected to produce the contract in question as well as physical, documentary, or eyewitness affidavits that established the nature of the work as it was actually performed. If, for example, I could not produce the contract then the suit would likely be dismissed at the preliminary hearing because the court would have no basis for judging whether the contractor's work was adequate.

In the case of the dirty telephone, I would be expected to produce evidence that my phone was contaminated, the nature of the contamination (e.g., via a lab report), and my coworkers' role in applying the contaminant (e.g., statements of witnesses, surveillance photography). If I fail to show evidence that my phone has been contaminated, then the case might not proceed to trial. I can state in the complaint, "Upon belief and information, Plaintiff alleges that the telephone receiver in his office was contaminated with a pathogen." But at the preliminary hearing, the defendants' counsel may ask, "What evidence do you have that the phone was contaminated?" And if I respond, "Well, it's only logical; I went to work that day, and then later I felt sick. I used my phone while I was at work, therefore it must have been what made me sick," then the judge might rule that the allegation is without merit and would almost certainly be refuted at trial.
 
If the Dragon Family (Tiamat, Fafnir, and 'lil Red) are upset by the loss of their money (which by the statements made in the early part of the lawsuit would more properly be the property of either the PRC or the Republic of Tai Wan, vice a family never properly identified and is likely a "familiy" in mafia sense than in the relationship by genetics and marriage sense) they should be doing the action themselves not through Keenan, who from the looks of it was not a good choice as a financial/investment person.
 
'Bout that hex thing Jay, if I as your contractor placed an object in your foundation that purported to be a charm to cause harm, and you suffered a psychological injury as a result of finding out it was there then you might have a case, otherwise you're right.
 
Whoa! Hold on a minute. I haven't said that doctors force vaccines on children for profit.

Here you go:

OR, the reason for the increase in autism is NOT because of the thimerosal/mercury but some other nasty stuff in the vaccines. They found a correlation between autism and vaccine and thought is was the thimerosal so they removed it from the vaccines and manipulated the statistics to lower the percentage of autism during the period when thimerosal was used. Then in the years later the higher statistics of autism REMAINED even without the thimerosal. So they did a double blunder: manipulation of the statistics for autism and deciding that the reason for increased autism was the thimerosal in the vaccines. OR, it was a deliberate blunder, sponsored and devised by the pharma industry as a smokescreen to hide the real cause of the autism which is some of the other ingredients in the vaccine. And by making the legal medical authorities guilty of manipulating statistics the pharma industry could use that to blackmail the medical legal government authorities. Machiavellian strategies all the way, baby.

(that is just one post, there are many others where Anders continues with the conspiracy)

You are quite at ease with accusing anyone and everyone involved with vaccines of the most horrid things. Yet lawyers are immune to this.
 

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