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You should go and talk to a doctor again. If the medicines are not working they can do something about it.

Take care.
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
To state that the pendant has an extrasensory power in it, one can choose people who don't have dreams and give them the pendant to wear for a year. If 80 % of the people who test it say that the pendant makes them have dreams, I suggest to declare that the pendant has an extrasensory power.
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You can suggest whatever you like, it won't alter the fact that such an experiment would prove nothing whatever about your pendant. It would be a good way to demonstrate the existence of confirmation bias, but everybody (well, everybody but you apparently) already knows that exists.

A blank test can be used for the testing. But the blank test won't contribute anything. It can only prove that those people who blank-test the pendants don't sign statements.
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It can prove that those who were wearing the magic pendants sign statements more often than those who were wearing the non-magic ones, thus proving that your pendant really does have magic powers. If, as you predict, no-one who wears the non-magic pendants signs a statement whilst at least 80% of those who wear the magic one do, that would establish the fact beyond doubt.

Alternatively it could prove that those who were wearing the magic pendants don't sign statements more often than those who were wearing the non-magic ones. Maybe 80% of both groups think they're having more dreams since starting to wear the pendant. This would prove that your pendant does not have magic powers, and is the sort of result I (and anyone else with a reasonable understanding of the brain's built-in cognitive biases) predict.

The only way to find out which of our predictions is correct is to do the blinded experiment. Why are you so resistant to doing the only kind of test that could actually establish whether or not your pendant has the powers you claim it has?
 
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I have a message that The North Texas Skeptics examine the pendant. Contact them Pixel 42.This is their phone number 214-335-9248. Learn what they intend?
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
I have a message that The North Texas Skeptics examine the pendant. Contact them Pixel 42.This is their phone number 214-335-9248. Learn what they intend?
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As they're sceptics I'm sure that if they intend anything it's to subject your pendant to the properly blinded testing you should already have done yourself.
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
Full information
In 1970 an anonymous psychic using telepathy suggested that I should steal a little and set fire, and I will be playfully reproached for it. She told me to buy something in Gdańsk. I listened to her, and after five years of waiting there appeared some words which reproached me for theft and arson. It was an attack of an extrasensory force, which was stopped by a magical pendant with Buddha that I bought in Gdańsk in 1980. The attack was completely stopped only after I had worn the magical
pendant for a year. I discovered the pendant also because psychotropic drugs were poisoning me when I wanted to cure my neurosis with them. This poisoning made me listen to the psychic.
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So let me get this straight.
Before 1970: Wanted to cure your medical condition, you claim you discovered the pendent and see a psychic
1970: the Anonymous psychic tells you to commit an illegal crime and to buy a pendent;
1975: "Psychic" "attack" starts/stops with a pendent you bought
1980: Pendent bought
 
My correspondence with John Blanton

To: "John Blanton" <skeptic75287@yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 11:00 AM
Wieslaw Miernik
Poland

I am writing in connection with the two copies of the application that I have sent to you.
It is stated in this application that to prove my supernatural abilities, I need to come to the USA. Regarding the research of the healing pendant that I have discovered, my visit to the USA is completely needless and unnecessary. If sign one of the copies of the application and send it back to me, this will prove that my application has been taken into account and the group of skeptics will consider my case. If you do not like the way my application has been filled in, nonetheless, you would
like to research the pendant, please publish this fact on your website so that I know that you treat the research seriously. Everyone who, at night, dreams very little and is neither seriously ill, nor bedridden can take part in the pendant research. The pendants main healing task is to make the pendant bearer dream more intense dreams which are easier to notice and remember. The research would be very easy because it would involve just wearing the pendant so I suggest engaging as many
volunteers as possible. For that, I can send even 50 pendants. Only healthy people can take part in the research. The pendant is able to make the volunteers dreams more beautiful and more frequent at the same time. If you want to use the pendants in different tests, I can send as many as you would need. The choice of the testing method is to be made by you. The decision whether to regard them as really magical is also up to you. The result of the test will be just peoples testimony and even
if unanimous, they are just words which might not be considered as a valid proof. But your research and the reward that you offer may be very useful in discovering the hidden healing powers of the pendant, which, after many years of wearing it, could reveal in a more visible way e.g. rejuvenation. Treating people with the pendant might replace doctors and give people more time. Consider what is better, please and make the right decision.
Wiesław Miernik

Wieslaw,

Thanks again for working with us.

I am asking some of the Challenge underwriters to evaluate the pendant you sent to us. If their observations produce conclusive evidence for your claim we will enter into an agreement with you regarding the prize.

However, I am still puzzled how we can satisfactorily test these claims. There is nothing very concrete claimed. All the measurements and observations appear to involve subjective interpretation. If you can propose a more object method of evaluation we will give it serious consideration.

Correspondence related to the NTS Paranormal Challenge will be posted on our Web site and may be printed in our newsletter.

Best regards,

John Blanton
Skeptical Web Master
http://www.ntskeptics.org
214-335-9248
 
John Brandon said:
However, I am still puzzled how we can satisfactorily test these claims. There is nothing very concrete claimed. All the measurements and observations appear to involve subjective interpretation. If you can propose a more object[ive] method of evaluation we will give it serious consideration.
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You know perfectly well how to make the test more objective, Mr Wieslaw. Mr Brandon is waiting for you to propose a double blind test of your pendant. He has almost certainly googled your name, found this thread, and knows that how to do this has been explained to you. If you show the slightest inkling of having understood why such a test is necessary to objectively demonstrate your claim he will probably run such a test for you, even though you should already have done it yourself. But you need to demonstrate your understanding of what has been explained to you on this thread by proposing such a test yourself.
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
My correspondence with John Blanton
John Blanton said:
However, I am still puzzled how we can satisfactorily test these claims. There is nothing very concrete claimed. All the measurements and observations appear to involve subjective interpretation. If you can propose a more object method of evaluation we will give it serious consideration.
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Perhaps you should address some of the points that have already been made here, such as:
Mojo said:
The problem here is that you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that a controlled and blinded trial will be necessary for any of the challenges you are considering. Until you acknowledge this, work out a trial protocol, and carry out your own trial, you will not make any progress towards either claiming any of the prizes or convincing anyone here of the magical properties of your pendant.

To detect any effect of the pendant you will need a control to compare its alleged effect with. Because the effects you are claiming are subjective (experiencing and remembering dreams, or perceiving Polish words in English language songs) you will need the subjects and experimenters to be unaware of which subject have the real pendant and which have the control pendant.
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Miernik, can you address the points about controlled and blinded trials, please?
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Miernik, do you understand why people here, and people you have contacted by email, are telling you to conduct a controlled and blinded test of your pendant?
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Why on earth would someone who has had it repeatedly explained to him that his claims for his pendant are utterly worthless until he can produce meaningful evidence for them (and been given detailed instructions on how to obtain that evidence) come back to this thread months later and repeat the same worthless unsupported claims, with the sole addition of a demand for payment? :confused:
 
Looks like the post has been deleted, which is not too surprising given the recent crackdown on advertising.
 
Pixel42 said:
It now looks like I bumped this thread to do some totally unprompted ranting. :D
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My post quoting it got moved as well. Looks as if they've been put somewhere inaccessible rather than AAH.

I had redacted all the commercial-looking bits, such as his address and bank details, and the prices.
 
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Mojo said:
My post quoting it got moved as well. Looks as if they've been put somewhere inaccessible rather than AAH.

I had redacted all the commercial-looking bits, such as his address and bank details, and the prices.
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Yes, I think it's either in deep storage or has been permanently deleted (I happened to save a link to the post before it went, and it no longer works).
 
Pixel42 said:
Why on earth would someone who has had it repeatedly explained to him that his claims for his pendant are utterly worthless until he can produce meaningful evidence for them (and been given detailed instructions on how to obtain that evidence) come back to this thread months later and repeat the same worthless unsupported claims, with the sole addition of a demand for payment? :confused:
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How dare you bump this thread!!
I thought you were better than this. I shall now mock you at Gallifrey Base.


:)
 
Do not post commercial advertisements, and keep your posts on topic.
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I have read the guidelines which are published by the European Medicines Agency for approval of the drug. Ministry of Health argues that the rules prohibit the treatment of pendant. However, the European Medicines Agency in inernecie writes that such a possibility exists if the drug is strong. Pendant is a potent drug. Medicines Authority and the Ministry of Health in Poland have to change the attitude to the pendant. European Medicines Agency guidelines differs from the Polish legislation on medicines. www.ema.europa.eu/
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
Ministry of Health argues that the rules prohibit the treatment of pendant.
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Presumably because the rules say any treatment must first be proved to work.

However, the European Medicines Agency in inernecie writes that such a possibility exists if the drug is strong.
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If it has been proved to be strong, as I'm sure they make clear.

Pendant is a potent drug.
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So you keep insisting, but you have yet to produce any credible evidence.

As soon as you have conducted a properly blinded clinical trial which proves that your pendant works and published the results in an appropriate peer-reviewed journal, I'm sure both these authorities will be happy to approve your pendant for sale.

How's that coming along?
 
You may have a problem - a drug is normally a substance introduced into the body that has a pharmacological effect. I don't see how a pendant fits that description.
 
dlorde said:
You may have a problem - a drug is normally a substance introduced into the body that has a pharmacological effect. I don't see how a pendant fits that description.
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The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is a decentralised body of the European Union, located in London. Its main responsibility is the protection and promotion of public and animal health, through the evaluation and supervision of medicines for human and veterinary use.
Breach of rule 4 removed. Do not copy and paste large amounts of material from elsewhere.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles
 
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