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Saggy said:
Well, you can relieve the boredom, Nick. Just name ONE CREDIBLE JEWISH WITNESS TO THE HOLOHOAX.

Unfortunately, you can't do it. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CREDIBLE JEWISH WITNESS TO THE HOLOHOAX.

What do we have to discuss if you cannot provide the name of one credible Jewish witness? Why nothing but the lies of the purported witnesses.

It's on you - name one credible Jewish witness, or go home in disgrace.

Or, I suppose you can continue to make your idiotic 'death threats'. Up to you. I confess I like it when you are reduced to the standard Zionist tactics of Wroclaw or TSR.
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He's named 200+, and I've highlighted one name from the list for you as you are apparently unable to. Do you think you gain anything by repeating a challenge that has already been met while ignoring the response?

A pro-tip for you: You don't gain anything but opening more people's eyes to what a intelectually dishonest person you really are.
 
LSSBB said:
Are you denying he was a real human being, regardless of how his story was documented?
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It's much easier for Clayton to deny it than to admit it, so take a wild stab in the dark what he's going to do.
 
TSR said:
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... none of which refer to Jews, or even to Jewish-dominated companies.

You're not even trying now...
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Today fewer than 10 multinational media conglomerates-
Time Warner, Disney, Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp, Viacom, Sony, Seagram, AT&T/Liberty Media, Bertelsmann, and GE-dominate most of the American mass media landscape
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Clayton Moore said:
Today fewer than 10 multinational media conglomerates-
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... can be reasonably termed "Jewish-dominated", none of which you go on to name.

All of those you *do* whine about are publicly traded, and so answerable to their shareholders first and foremost. So unless your point is the equally unsupportable one that the majority of those shareholders are Jewish, you have again failed to make any point at all other than a demonstration of your visceral hatred for Jews.

We all know about that by now, so unless you'd care to try to justify it without resorting to the kind of lies you usually post, we don't need any further such demonstrations.
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Clayton Moore said:
A comic book character?
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LSSBB said:
Are you denying he was a real human being, regardless of how his story was documented?
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uke2se said:
It's much easier for Clayton to deny it than to admit it, so take a wild stab in the dark what he's going to do.
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It's too bad the CD-ROM edition of Maus isn't in print any more. It actually contained audio and transcripts from the recordings Spiegelman made when he asked his father to describe what he went through.
 
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uke2se said:
So, are you going to present a quote from an actual historian that says that the Jews of WWII Europe vanished without a trace? Because thus far your attempts have been ridiculous.
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You said no Jews vanished without a trace. If that's true then you can trace them. Where did they go? Dead or alive, they had to have gone somewhere. If you can't trace them then they vanished without a trace...which you said didn't happen.
 
Dogzilla said:
You said no Jews vanished without a trace. If that's true then you can trace them. Where did they go? Dead or alive, they had to have gone somewhere. If you can't trace them then they vanished without a trace...which you said didn't happen.
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A lot of them went to camps as traced by the Nazis themselves, and no trace was ever found of them going anywhere else. Nor was any trace ever found of them still living in the camps to this day.

Conclusion: the traces show that they died there.



Anything else for Captain Obvious to answer, or do you want to go back to your lame attempts at showing that there is any double standard related to the Holocaust other than your own?
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Nick Terry said:
It's precisely what we're talking about. You brought up a quote from a website bringing up absence of proof in connection to the Hitler order (a quote which is clearly a misapplication of the term).

I've pointed out several times now that any absence of evidence blah-blah can't apply to the Hitler order since there is no absence of evidence for a Hitler order, there is evidence of a Hitler order. I've explained what kind of evidence several times now so please don't be a retard and make a fool of yourself here with a dim attempt at a smart-alec comeback.
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I brought up a quote from a website that used an example of the Hitler order to illustrate how absence of proof isn't proof of absence. The example isn't what we're talking about.

Besides missing the point, you tried a sleight of hand to talk about the lack of evidence for a Hitler order or the lack of the lack of evidence for a Hitler order. Lipstadt's minions weren't talking about the lack of evidence. They said lack of proof. Since you previously acknowledged that evidence and proof aren't the same thing you know perfectly well what you tried but failed to do.

If you believe there's plenty of proof of a Hitler order, take it up with the non-historian and her non-historian web content provider. They're the ones who said there is an absence of proof for a Hitler order but that that isn't proof of the absence of the Hitler order.


Or you could, you know, demonstrate genuine knowledge of the historiography of the Holocaust and cite pages in books which use the term, and then demonstrate basic reasoning and evidentiary skills by showing how a measurable proportion of historians of the Holocaust, as opposed to whoever you could randomly google, use the phrase 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' as a major plank of their explanation for the Holocaust.
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A major plank? Who said it was a major plank?


Uhhh... maybe because I know who wrote the pages?
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Well why didn't you say that? All you said was that you knew that Lipstadt didn't write them.


What a marvellous demonstration of confirmation bias, and what a wonderful display of wilful ignorance and refusal to learn.

Keep digging, Dogzilla.
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No. Just an unwillingness to spend money on a book and read it just because you told me to. I've already provided twice as many examples of absence of evidence/proof isn't evidence/proof of absence being endorsed by people who write about the holocaust (two people who have no doubt exerted more influence over how we think about the holocaust than you have despite your status as historian of the holocaust and their status as a historian of science and a whatever it is that Lipstadt studied). If your recommended reading is valuable to our discussion then it's incumbent upon you to tell us why.
 
ANTPogo said:
Well, that's 35 bucks I didn't want to spend this month, but that I'm going to spend anyway. *orders*
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You wanna shop around. It's cheaper elsewhere.

It seems Maus is a cottage industry. A cottage industry within a cottage industry., the Holohoax cottage industry.

So many survivors. So many lies. So much money

Tosha Zylberberg
Character Analysis

Tosha is Anja’s sister, and is the mother of two children. When it is clear that the remaining Jews in Sosnowiec are going to be deported to Auschwitz, Tosha leaves with her children and Richieu to the home of an uncle, Persis, who is able to survive in another town because he has bribed the German soldiers there. When it is clear that the Jews in this town are also going to be shipped to the concentration camps, Tosha commits suicide and poisons the three children.
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http://www.shmoop.com/maus/tosha-zylberberg.html

Unreal. Poisoning children? Why didn't Tosha's rich parents save them?

Funny how these people are such rich sheeppeople. The most educated people in Europe can't/didn't anticipate the need to buy their way to safety?

The Holohoax ridicules the Jewish people of those times.
 
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