Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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And nothing you have pointed to points to a con.

Well, obviously I do understand that your belief is that there is nothing wrong in obtaining money in return for lies, but some of us hold a contrary view.
We consider those that would stoop so low to do such a thing as nothing more that lying scum bags. But we do take comfort in knowing that such people belong in the gutter and invariably that is where they stay.
 
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I suppose this is an appropriate to time to re-post this, from the Supreme Court of Canada:



Now, pray tell Mr. Menard, what is the source of your pre-existing authority to be a Peace Officer? Don't say it's the Criminal Code, because, as you can read above, it is explicity not the Criminal Code from whence this authority comes for you. So what is it?
No answer?
 
You wont get an answer, jlord is still waiting for an answer to his post regarding the destruction of the person argument and its court case records.
Menard simply keeps asking for a reminder as to the question.

Its just a waste of time.
 
Well, obviously I do understand that your belief is that there is nothing wrong in obtaining money in return for lies, but some of us hold a contrary view.
We consider those that would stoop so low to do such a thing as nothing more that lying scum bags. But we do take comfort in knowing that such people belong in the gutter and invariably that is where they stay.

If I was selling things I knew to be false, then I would be conning. But I am not. I honestly hold the beliefs I share. They are not lies at all. And I can defend them, but all you folks do here is insult me, to avoid looking at the truths.

I guess in your world, information should be vetted by a government body before people share their beliefs and opinions, eh?
 
Its just a waste of time.

It should not be forgotten that Menard admitted on Icke's a long time ago that he has a bet running with a friend of his on how many pages he can manage to get this thread to run to. Just popping up now and then with two or three posts and then disappearing has (I suspect) more to do with that bet than anything else.
 
If I was selling things I knew to be false, then I would be conning. But I am not. I honestly hold the beliefs I share. They are not lies at all. And I can defend them, but all you folks do here is insult me, to avoid looking at the truths.

Nope, you are selling things you know to be false or you would be practicing what you preach, the very fact you goad others into doing it while watching from a safe distance shows you dont really believe it.

and i know you can read this
Tell tale tit.
 
Nope, you are selling things you know to be false or you would be practicing what you preach, the very fact you goad others into doing it while watching from a safe distance shows you dont really believe it.

and i know you can read this
Tell tale tit.

Well, if he couldn't see it he can now.
I agree with JB you don't even have enough belief in the stuff you peddle to do it yourself. Even your own merchandise comes with a health warning. If you truly believed your BS you would be out there doing it.
 
It should not be forgotten that Menard admitted on Icke's a long time ago that he has a bet running with a friend of his on how many pages he can manage to get this thread to run to. Just popping up now and then with two or three posts and then disappearing has (I suspect) more to do with that bet than anything else.

I didn't know about this, but Menard has said he will respond when he has the time and I take him at his word. And by responding he only increases the length of the thread so this bet should not serve as an incentive not to respond.
 
I didn't know about this, but Menard has said he will respond when he has the time and I take him at his word. And by responding he only increases the length of the thread so this bet should not serve as an incentive not to respond.

What was your question JL?
 
What was your question JL?

A discussion of relevant case law wound up getting buried before you were able to respond to this post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7591794#post7591794

Then a subsequent discussion arose that ended up with this post which remains unanswered:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7648346#post7648346

Then the current discussion about the peace officers began and this post is awaiting a reply:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7684773#post7684773

I am interested in all three conversations, but I know you are carrying on with other people here as well. Some of these conversations seem to be mainly name calling and don't seem productive to me, but I understand you may still want to engage with others who will take up your time as well. So no rush.
 
Chief amongst them is the accolades I have received from thousands who appreciate my efforts.

What kind of people brag of their accolades? You should have a statue made, your face carved on Pyramid Mountain maybe. Here i feel we may be getting to the heart of the matter.

Can i pay my gas bill by writing 96 is the fix on it?
 
A discussion of relevant case law wound up getting buried before you were able to respond to this post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7591794#post7591794

Then a subsequent discussion arose that ended up with this post which remains unanswered:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7648346#post7648346

Then the current discussion about the peace officers began and this post is awaiting a reply:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7684773#post7684773

I am interested in all three conversations, but I know you are carrying on with other people here as well. Some of these conversations seem to be mainly name calling and don't seem productive to me, but I understand you may still want to engage with others who will take up your time as well. So no rush.

I read all your links and saw no specific questions. Care to just ask the questions, so I do not have to go through your links and try to figure out your questions?
 
WOW... :jaw-dropp you have just revealed your thought process haven't you?

So now we get to your true perspective. And boy is it a doozy. You no longer claim that the law is the shared common morals or ethics of a community, democratically agreed upon, but is merely the wishes whatever they may be, of a certain class of men, whom we do not know. What is right and what is wrong for people in your group, is not a function of conscience, or ethics, or morals but is determined solely by what some men tell you. In your world view, doing what is right is merely doing what you are told or commanded, and doing wrong means not doing what you are told. You have abandoned ALL claim to higher moral ground, and even your own humanity. You are not a man, you are a dog. You do not have equals, you have masters.


I think now I see why you so vehemently oppose this movement. It is for people who have a conscience, who have their own set of morals, and ethics, and do not need others to tell them right from wrong. That is not you. It was you who once claimed that if not for the Criminal Code you would commit murder, did you not?

You are clearly a sociopath, and can justify your sociopathy by claiming you were just doing what you were told. That is why you so staunchly defend the status quo and look at your actions against your fellowman as mere light hearted relief.

I have never been happier to not be someone in my life, or happier to know I do not think like someone else does. I have pity for you. Right and wrong for you, is not a function of any internal decision making at all. Someone failed miserably in raising you. You are a puppet on strings pulled by others, and lack the ability to formulate a course of action based upon what you feel is right and wrong, and have to rely upon others to tell you what is acceptable, or not.

if right and wrong is merely a function of doing what you are told, as you claim, then someone somewhere up the chain of command must be deciding what is okay and not, and that decision is not based upon doing what they are told at all. People like you, willing to do anything they are ordered to do, and who take following orders as the height of morally correct behaviour are a far greater danger to the people, than folks like me, who choose to follow their own morals. At least we have morals. All you have is an ability to do what you are told. Must be nice, not having to actually think about right and wrong, and being able to abdicate responsibility for your actions by claiming you were just following orders.

I wonder, how did that defense work out historically?

Very clever, Menard. Deliberately conflating the concepts of law and morality to make it seem as though pointing out the law is the exact same thing as making a personal argument for something. The key, of course, is the sleight of hand, which I've bolded just in case anyone can't see it. Add on a few paragraphs of melodramatic hyperbole, and you've successfully stalled for yet another post.
 
Very clever, Menard. Deliberately conflating the concepts of law and morality to make it seem as though pointing out the law is the exact same thing as making a personal argument for something. The key, of course, is the sleight of hand, which I've bolded just in case anyone can't see it. Add on a few paragraphs of melodramatic hyperbole, and you've successfully stalled for yet another post.

Rob's not going for rhetoric and sophistry again is he? Blimey, Rob, how unlike you to dodge eh...? :rolleyes:
 
Rob, while you're still online...

Rob,

Got the evidence that you are immune from all statutory law, except those laws that you agree with? A verifiable court order or letter from the Canadian government should do the trick.

No? Thought not

Been telling people that this is what you have achieved? Yes
Been receiving money on the back of it? Yes
Been giving other bogus 'legal' advice and receiving money from that? Yes


Once again, evidence please. Alternatively you are welcome to continue digging your own hole.
 
Alternatively you are welcome to continue digging your own hole.

Black's Law Dictionary probably has a quaint olde worlde definition for "Shovel".
$800 and Robert Arthur will let you in on the secret.
(All Courts operate under Cemetary Law)
 
Same tired routine. Get some new material please.

While you're at it, six weeks ago you asked for case law showing individual consent is not required. JLord provided it. You promised to respond. Here is the relevant post:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7547672&postcount=2325

Live up to your word, honourable freeman. Address this information that you requested we provide.

Repeating your tired catch phrases in light of their total demolition by crystal clear case law is really, really pathetic.
 
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