Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

[uke2se]

Baiting? Veiled threat? You authorized to speak for the site?

More a reaction to obvious trolling.

If that had happened to 2 young boys the prison population would have ignored their own safety and attacked the guards.

They would, would they? How many times has this scenario happened to you?

Working naked? Were not the prisoners who did work bussed to near by location and returned daily?

Does not follow.

The goofy testimonies chosen to portray the Germans as insane animals are the idlings of morons.

No, the idlings of morons is what's coming from you and your Nazi cronies.

As I suspected, Clayton can not provide any evidence for any of his assertions. This makes it obvious that Clayton is merely here to lie. This is especially evident since he admitted that he knows nothing about the subject at hand.

The sheer amount of fail emanating from the Hitler huggers these last few days is staggering, even by their standards. If a rational and honest person found himself in the situation where they now find themselves, he would admit to being ignorant and quietly retreat from the discussion. Since none of our resident Nazis have done so, we can only conclude that they are neither rational nor honest.

 

[Dave Rogers]

If that had happened to 2 young boys the prison population would have ignored their own safety and attacked the guards.

Working naked? Were not the prisoners who did work bussed to near by location and returned daily?

The goofy testimonies chosen to portray the Germans as insane animals are the idlings of morons.

Argument from personal incredulity is not evidence.

Dave

 

[Saggy]

If Saggy would take up Nick's names,

I don't want a list of 200 names, or any subset of the 50,000 testimonies at Yad Vashem, I want the name of a SINGLE CREDIBLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax.

Nick Terry does not provide such a name because he cannot. There is not a single credible eyewitness to the hoax.

Yad Vashem director Yehuda Bauer identifies Filip Meuller as 'the only person who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw'. Anyone remotely interested should read Meuller's book "Three Years in a Gas Chamber and All I Got was this Lousy T Shirt".

The challenge is simple, and is for Nick Terry only, not the other Zionist yahoos posting - produce the name of a SINGLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax, and, while you're not posting the non-existent name, you can also not summarize their non-existent credible testimony.

The reason there are no credible Jewish eyewitnesses is because the whole thing DID NOT HAPPEN. IT IS A HOAX.

 

[uke2se]

I don't want a list of 200 names, or any subset of the 50,000 testimonies at Yad Vashem, I want the name of a SINGLE CREDIBLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax.

Then pick one. It's not hard. A list has been provided.

Nick Terry does not provide such a name because he cannot. There is not a single credible eyewitness to the hoax.

He provided 200+. Every time you use this lie, your "cause" dies a little. Keep it up.

Yad Vashem director Yehuda Bauer identifies Filip Meuller as 'the only person who saw the Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw'. Anyone remotely interested should read Meuller's book "Three Years in a Gas Chamber and All I Got was this Lousy T Shirt".

Already dealt with this tripe.

The challenge is simple, and is for Nick Terry only, not the other Zionist yahoos posting - produce the name of a SINGLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax, and, while you're not posting the non-existent name, you can also not summarize their non-existent credible testimony.

The Nazi yahoo who keeps asking must be blind. 200+ names have been provided for him by Nick. That the Nazi yahoo doesn't deal with any of them speaks to his complete inability to do so.

The reason there are no credible Jewish eyewitnesses is because the whole thing DID NOT HAPPEN. IT IS A HOAX.

This lie is the root of your problem, Saggy. If you just own up and admit that you're making it all up, we'll be lenient. Otherwise the feeding frenzy will continue.

Keep failing, Saggs.

 

[TSR]

Argument from personal incredulity is not evidence.

Dave

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Based on his posts here, in the anti-vax thread, and over in 9/11, it's evidence that CM has no other 'arguments' to make
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[ElMondoHummus]

I don't want a list of 200 names, or any subset of the 50,000 testimonies at Yad Vashem, I want the name of a SINGLE CREDIBLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax.

"I don't want 200 names or 50,000 of them, I want one"?? If this isn't a Stundie, people, I don't know what is.

 

[uke2se]

"I don't want 200 names or 50,000 of them, I want one"?? If this isn't a Stundie, people, I don't know what is.

I don't think it qualifies for a Stundie if it's intentional. Saggy's waffling about one name is just an "out" for him to avoid dealing with the 200+ he has been given. In his mind, it saves him from having to admit defeat.

The rest of us know he never stood a chance, of course. He's ill equipped for dealing with people more intelligent than his normal cronies over at Stormfront.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

I don't think it qualifies for a Stundie if it's intentional. Saggy's waffling about one name is just an "out" for him to avoid dealing with the 200+ he has been given. In his mind, it saves him from having to admit defeat.

The rest of us know he never stood a chance, of course. He's ill equipped for dealing with people more intelligent than his normal cronies over at Stormfront.

You're not letting me poke fun and have my joke.

 

[Corsair 115]

...I want the name of a SINGLE CREDIBLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS to the holohoax.

I want the name of a SINGLE CREDIBLE EYEWITNESS to this worldwide Jewish conspiracy which controls the media and everything else.

The reason there are no credible Jewish eyewitnesses is because the whole thing DID NOT HAPPEN. IT IS A HOAX.

The reason you have not offered any credible eyewitnesses is because your global Jewish conspiracy DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS A FANTASY.

 

[LemmyCaution]

We have the spectacle of Clayton Moore name-calling Oscar Strawczynski - but doing nothing to demonstrate to anyone who is interested why he believes Strawczynski is lying. And with this we get the bonus of Saggy wanting one name, apparently being unable to pick a single name out of a list, and then ignoring the posts on what he'd requested, that is, a single name, Oscar Strawczynski. Come on, Clayton Moore is proving unable to demonstrate anything at all about Oscar Strawczynksi except his own ignorance of him, Saggy should help Clayton Moore out. . . .

 

[Saggy]

We have the spectacle of Clayton Moore name-calling Oscar Strawczynski - but doing nothing to demonstrate to anyone who is interested why he believes Strawczynski is lying. And with this we get the bonus of Saggy wanting one name, apparently being unable to pick a single name out of a list, and then ignoring the posts on what he'd requested, that is, a single name, Oscar Strawczynski. Come on, Clayton Moore is proving unable to demonstrate anything at all about Oscar Strawczynksi except his own ignorance of him, Saggy should help Clayton Moore out. . . .

Strawczynski has already been discussed, his story stands in direct contradiction to the hoax, and I won't waste my time on anymore names other than the NAME OF ONE CREDIBLE JEWISH EYEWITNESS TO THE HOLOHOAX supplied by Nick Terry.

Nick is in hiding though. I'm not surprised.

However, Nick Terry cannot provide the name of a single Jewish eyewitness to the hoax. That's because it never happened.

Just as there are thousands of witnesses to alien landings, there is not ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE WITNESS. Thousands of testimonies regarding witches and their machinations, but NOT ONE CREDIBLE WITNESS.

 

[Border Reiver]

Does it matter if the witness is Jewish?

Why would the religious background of any witness matter?

There has never been a credible refutation of the Holocaust - too much physical evidence, too many witnesses, too many documents, etc.

 

[Saggy]

Does it matter if the witness is Jewish?

Why would the religious background of any witness matter?

The holohoax is a Zionist invention. Having control of the New York Times, they were free to broadcast their lies at will. You can see an example from 1906 here ....

http://exposing-the-holocaust-hoax-archive.blogspot.com/2010/01/ny-times-reports-in-1906-that-russias.html

The basic hoax is laid out in this article, details changed, but the same lie was repeated over and over from then through WWs I and II.

Zionists in the Roosevelt administration, notably Henry Morgenthau, got control of US government policy with respect to post WW II Europe and the Nuremberg trials, and the result is the greatest hoax the world has ever seen. All this is detailed in 'The Hoax of the Twentieth Century' by Arthur Butz, available at Amazon.com

 

[Border Reiver]

Except, it isn't.

 

[uke2se]

However, Nick Terry cannot provide the name of a single Jewish eyewitness to the hoax. That's because it never happened.

Just as there are thousands of witnesses to alien landings, there is not ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE WITNESS. Thousands of testimonies regarding witches and their machinations, but NOT ONE CREDIBLE WITNESS.

Nick has provided a list of over 200. Take your pick. Like I said before, every time you post this lie, your cause dies a little. For that, I thank you, for it is a despicable cause, worthy of death.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Strawczynski has already been discussed, his story stands in direct contradiction to the hoax, and I won't waste my time. . . .

Where was Strawczynski discussed? How was he shown to be a pathological liar telling degenerate lies AND "in direct contradiction to the hoax"? Thank you.

 

[Saggy]

Where was Strawczynski discussed? How was he shown to be a pathological liar telling degenerate lies AND "in direct contradiction to the hoax"? Thank you.

Use the search function, ace, I can't be bothered with your idiocy. Or, search through my last twenty or so posts, it's there, and the mental exercise will do you good.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Use the search function, ace, I can't be bothered with your idiocy. Or, search through my last twenty or so posts, it's there, and the mental exercise will do you good.

Well, I have been following along, and I don't recall anyone demonstrating Strawczynski to be lying. So you may call me "ace" and choose not to help your own case and vaguely allude to your posts, which I've read, but it would improve your position and make you seem more serious about things if you would be specific as to where the discussion occurred and how it proved Strawczynski a liar. I searched your last twenty or so posts and couldn't find where you proved this unless you mean posts like this one: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7649982&postcount=6366

You're missing the point. The holohoax is ABSURD ON ITS FACE. You don't need to do research. Doing research is a diversion, an implicit admission that the issue is in doubt, playing the Zionists game.

Even as a child I knew that something was amiss with the hoax. I saw the newsreels as did everyone, and even then I noted that the dead and dying were EMACIATED, and that was not consistent with gas chamber victims. If a 10 year old child can recognize a hoax, without reading Faurisson or Butz, just by seeing the hoax 'evidence' presented by the Zionists, then there is not a hell of a lot of need for research into Nick Terry's obscure irrelevancies.

That is the point. The holocaust is a complete, obvious, hoax. The persons defending it are degenerate liars the likes of which have never before been seen. It should be pointed out over and over. Demonstrated time and time again. Eventually, even the totally brainwashed may get a glimmer of the truth.

I understand that you don't find it easy to prove what you've claimed and your handwaving and insults are meant to deflect from this.

 

[uke2se]

I don't need to name one Jewish witness. I can name 200 Jewish, non-Jewish and German witnesses. Like so:

German– Auschwitz (24)
Rudolf Höss, Hans Aumeier, Maximilian Grabner, Friedrich Entress, Johann Kremer, Horst Fischer, Josef Kramer, Fritz Klein, Franz Hössler, Konrad Morgen, Hans Münch, Richard Baer, Walter Dejaco, Henry Storch, Hans Stark, Erich Mussfeldt, Pery Broad, Richard Böck, Karl Hölbinger, Josef Erber, Oswald Kaduk, Nowak, Kurt Prüfer, Karl Schultze
German,Collaborator –
Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, Treblinka (24)
Franz Stangl, Josef Oberhauser, Kurt Gerstein, Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, Hermann Höfle, Franz Suchomel, Willi Metz, Otto Horn, Erich Bauer, Alfred Ittner, Gustav Wagner, Franz Hödl, Erwin Lambert, Heinrich Barbl, Heinrich Gley, Werner Karl Dubois, Karl Alfred Schluch, Erich Fuchs, Vassily Pankov, Mikhail Razgoniaev, Ignat Danilchenko, Pavel Leleko, Walter Piller, Bruno Israel
German – Other (27)
Hermann Göring, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Dieter Wisliceny, Adolf Eichmann, Wilhelm Höttl, Richard Korherr, August Becker, Walter Rauff, Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, Friedrich Jeckeln, Kurt Becher, Oswald Pohl, Gerhard Maurer, Kurt Schmidt-Klevenow, Anton Kaindl, Hermann Pister, Ilse Koch, Alois Hoellriegel, Paul Waldmann, Oscha Otto Hoppe, Theo Schölen, Otto Ohlendorf, Ostubaf Haensch, Paul Blobel, Hermann Graebe, Eberhard Wetzel, Victor Brack
Auschwitz – Sonderkommandos (21)
Miklos Nyiszli; Filip Müller, Sigismund Bendel, Szlama Dragon, Henryk Tauber, Henryk Mandelbaum, Andre Lettich, Stanislaw Jankowski; Milton Buki, Maurice Benroubi, David Olere, Dov Paisikovic, Joshuah Rosenblum, Josef Sackar, Saul Chasan, Jaacov Gabai, Eliezer Eisenschmidt, Leon Cohen, Shlomo Venezia, Salmen Lewental, Lejb Langfus
Auschwitz – Other (59)
Rudolf Vrba, Alfred Wetzler; Ada Bimko, Janda Weiss, Yehuda Bakon, Mordechai Lichtenstein, Liebermann, Regina Bialek, Sophia Litwinska, Ruth Elias, Klari Weiss, Primo Levi, Kitty Hart, Fania Fenelon, Olga Lengyel, Eugene Heimler, Elie Wiesel, Czeslaw Mordowicz, Arnost Rosin, Benedikt Kautsky, Moshe Garbarz, Rajzla Sadowska, Erwin Valentin, Lucie Adelsberger; Adolf Rögner, Erwin Bartel, Wilhelm Wohlfahrt, Bruno Baum, Hermann Langbein, Ella Lingens-Reiner, Walter Petzold, Otto Wolken, Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier, Jerzy Tabeau, Stanislaw Klodzinski, Stanislaw Chybinski, K.J., Franciszek Gulba, Jolan Holthost, Michal Kula, Seweryna Szmaglewskaya, Ludwig Nagraba, Zenon Rozanski, Josef Koczorowski, Ludwig Rajewski, Roman Taul, Feliks Mylyk, Zygmunt Smuzewski, Jiri Beranowsky, Eugeniusz Motz, Bogdan Glinski, Josef Vacek, Czeslaw Glowaki, Wojciech Barcz, Ludwig Banach, Wieslaw Kielar, Kazimierz Smolen, Henryk Porebski, Hugo Breiden,
Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, Treblinka (52+)
‘Szlamek’, Mordechai Zurawski, Michal Podchlebnik, Shimon Srebrnik, Jankiel Wiernik, Samuel Rajzman, Elias Rosenberg, Abraham Bomba, Richard Glazar, Samuel Willenberg, Chil Rajchman, Szymon Goldberg, Tanhum Grinberg, Shalom Cohen, Abraham Goldfarb, Oskar Berger, Abe Kon, Moszeks Laks, Maniek Plakiewicz, Stanislaw Borowy, Oscar Strawczynski, Israel Cymlich, Rudolf Reder, Chaim Hirszman, Alexander Pechersky, Leon Feldhendler, Zelda Metz, Esther Rab, Stanislaw Szmajzner, Moshe Bahir, Itzak Lichtman, Eda Litchman, Aizik Rottenberg, Yehuda Lerner, Dov Ber Freiberg, Ursula Stern, Chaim Engel, Hershl Zukerman, Kurt Thomas, Thomas Blatt, Jacob Biskubicz; Stanislaw Kozak, Jan Piwonski, Jan G., Eugeniusz Goch, Edward F, Maria Daniel, Tadeusz M, Michal Kusmierczak, Eustachy Ukrainski, Jan Sulkowski, Jules Schelvis
KZ inmates (3)
Franz Blaha, Margarete Buber-Neumann, Benen Anton,
Other (10)
Zygmunt Klukowski, Paul Roser, Jan Karski, Erich Heubaum, Rozalka Schelewna Schier, Emanuel Ringelbum, Chaim Kaplan, Hersh Smolar, Heinz Rosenberg, Herman Kruk
Deluded Witnesses (2)
Moshe Peer, Irene Zisblatt
Lying Witnesses (2)
Martin Gray, Herman Rosenblatt
False Witnesses (2)
Benjamin Wilkomirski, Misha Defoncesca

go on, stomp your feet once more. You know we love it when you get angry.



0.5% on the Rev-o-Meter. Again. Jeez, Saggy, you're flatlining.

As Saggy seems unable to read names off of a list (something his ideological peers in Nazi Germany were quite adept at), I have taken the liberty of doing what he can't: pick a name off a list.

Now, present evidence for why the highlighted person is not a credible witness to the holocaust. To do this you need to use actual evidence, not hearsay or stuff you pull out of your arse. Once you have failed to do so, we can move on to the next name on the list.

Remember: this is only a miniscule part of the amount of eye-witnesses we have. It is up to you to prove every single one of them wrong. The burden of evidence lies firmly on your shoulders, Saggy. Given your track record, the burden is obviously too heavy.

 

[uke2se]

Well, I have been following along, and I don't recall anyone demonstrating Strawczynski to be lying. So you may call me "ace" and choose not to help your own case and vaguely allude to your posts, which I've read, but it would improve your position and make you seem more serious about things if you would be specific as to where the discussion occurred and how it proved Strawczynski a liar. I searched your last twenty or so posts and couldn't find where you proved this unless you mean posts like this one: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7649982&postcount=6366I understand that you don't find it easy to prove what you've claimed and your handwaving and insults are meant to deflect from this.

He's lying again. He's never dealt with Strawczynski in this thread. I'm starting to think he actually believes the bile he's spewing, including fantasies about posts he never made. It's sad, really.