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Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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In the wonderful link above I found this:

Fremann Menard wrote:

I unlike WestJet I honour my contracts and keep the law which is actually very simple regardless of how complicated some parties want you to believe it is.

Do not harm another.
Do not damage someone else's property.
Honour your contracts and do not use fraud or mischief in your contracts.
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So that is The Law he is always refering to! Makes me understand why he is reluctant to quote it more often. I was always sure the FMOTL-idea was wrong and rather silly but I was curios about the fundaments of this idea. I am no longer. JB is right: Menards law is what Menard want it to be. And therefore, in my opinion, the whole FMOTL-idea is only semantics and made up nonsense. (And an big overuse of :D)

If Fremann Menard want to prove me wrong, please provide some evidence that your "Law" is not entirely made up by yourself.
 
Robs law
  1. Do not harm another.
  2. Do not damage someone else's property.
  3. Honour your contracts and do not use fraud or mischief in your contracts.

  1. Lance Thatcher
  2. Rays land (Rob got kicked off after trying to set up Jonestown Freeman valley)
  3. Lance Thatcher

Rob doesnt follow his own laws, what hope anyone else.
 
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Hans said:
Jargon Buster has he claimed to have collected on a fee schedule?
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He gets around that question by his usual dance.
You see, he says the reason for a fee schedule is to not receive the fee schedule. It is not about collecting money. No, indeedy. The reason for the fee schedule is because the other party then realise you have a valid claim against them financially (:D), they will back off.
In my opinion the fact that Menard believes these stupid fee schedules actually carry any weight in law is proof enough that Menard is clueless where law is concerned, especially considering he has claimed to have studied law for twenty thousand hours or more. He also claims to have sat in lessons in law school, and had a distinguished jurist as his mentor. Let's face it; he's a fantasist.
 
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had a distinguished jurist as his mentor.
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Picture the scene
Two lawyers having adrink after work, in walks Menard,half cut (no surprises there).

Here John, look whos there, its that Menard character.
Where?
There in the daft hat.
Is that him, he looks like a hobo
I know, he always looks like that, lets have some fun with him, just tell him you will buy him a jug of beer and we can teach him "the law"
Hahahahah... yes get him over, oh hes seen the jug and hes coming over already...ssh.hes here....
 
This is what Menard wrote on Ickes:

1- Actually, I spent extensive time going to law classes and watching and listening.I also had a mentor who was a jurist for 27 years. I also spent thousands of hours in law libraries. But it is just easier for you to defend your paradigm and mindset if you can (without any supporting evidence or justification) attack my knowledge as faulty cause it came as you said 'from YouTube videos'. Knowing that I spent so much time doing research in law libraries, and going to classes,and studying under a retired jurist, does that change your mind about my education, knowledge and its validity?
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As I have said, I believe Menard to be a fantasist.
Law classes? Pffft
 
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jargon buster said:
They are normally open 8 hours a day, I wonder how many days that amounts to. :rolleyes:
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Well, he said "thousands", plural, so we can assume that's at least 2 "thousands".

2000 hours / 8 hours/day = 250 days

Which, with weekends and holidays, is about a full year.

So, yes, physically doable, but still not believable in this particular case.
 
Stacey Grove said:
This is what Menard wrote on Ickes:


As I have said, I believe Menard to be a fantasist.
Law classes? Pffft
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It's just barely possible that somebody could sneak into a first year Torts class or something similar. They tend to be fairly large and held in lecture theatres. At least that was the case at my school. But can you really imagine Menard sitting quitely in the back just listening and never drawing any attention to himself? Not bloody likely. Also, even though first year classes can be large, most professors use the Socratic method, so there really is no escape from scrutiny - you'll get called out eventually no matter what you do.

Obviously, he has never legitimately attended law school and I don't for a moment believe that he has ever been in a law class at all, but even if he has managed to sneak in once or twice, he would be exposed and ejected in short order.
 
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D'rok said:
Obviously, he has never legitimately attended law school and I don't for a moment believe that he has ever been in a law class at all, but even if he has managed to sneak in once or twice, he would be exposed and ejected in short order.
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If Menard did sneak in and managed to "watch and listen" for an "extensive time", how on earth did he manage to come up with such a back to front theory?
 
When you don't actually read the background materials, only get in for the Law 100 lecture on "Theory of Natural Law", and wilfully ignore anything that doesn't meet your preconceptions, its easy.
 
Stacey Grove said:
If Menard did sneak in and managed to "watch and listen" for an "extensive time", how on earth did he manage to come up with such a back to front theory?
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Well, obviously he is much smarter than any law professor, so he simply looked beneath the surface teaching for the secret teaching, thus exposing the sinister fraud that is perpetuated against free-will humans by the dark-robed slavemasters, shadow-puppeteers in the Cave of ignorance called the legal system, casting their shadows of false justice before us and binding our heads so that we can't turn towards the light of knowledge above that would otherwise lead us to freedom. Menard is awake. We are asleep. He has returned from his sojourn in the Cave to lead us from darkness to light, from blindness to sight, and from slavery to freedom. We are simply too deep in the Matrix to recognize him for the messiah that he is. The fault is ours.

:eye-poppi
 
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So, to be saved I must submit myself to a really bad movie (albeit with Kate Moss in a leather bodysuit)? And probably end up as a "guest of Her Majesty"?

I'll pass
 
D'rok said:
Well, obviously he is much smarter than any law professor, so he simply looked beneath the surface teaching for the secret teaching, thus exposing the sinister fraud that is peretuated against free-will humans by the dark-robed slavemasters, shadow-puppeteers in the Cave of ignorance called the legal system, casting their shadows of false justice before us and binding our heads so that we can't turn towards the light of knowledge above that would otherwise lead us to freedom. Menard is awake. We are asleep. He has returned from his sojourn in the Cave to lead us from darkness to light, from blindness to sight, and from slavery to freedom. We are simply too deep in the Matrix to recognize him for the messiah that he is. The fault is ours.

:eye-poppi
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Yikes:eek:
He is the new messiah?
We are not worthy.:blush:
 
Stacey Grove said:
He is the new messiah?
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someone had to do it...
 
Border Reiver said:
When you don't actually read the background materials, only get in for the Law 100 lecture on "Theory of Natural Law", and wilfully ignore anything that doesn't meet your preconceptions, its easy.
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I suspect he studied at MU, Menard University, of which he's the founder, president, faculty, student body and alumni. He also answers the phones and sweeps the floor.
 
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