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Debris removal specialist: Richard riggs saw melted beams, molten steel

nvidiot said:
No, I clearly pointed out that I can't watch the video at the moment, because of where I am and what device I'm using to access the internet. This has caused me to posit the hypothesis that almost every piece of YouTube "evidence" posted by truthers is wrong, mistaken, lying or distorted in some way, and take the punt that this hypothesis will be borne out when I do get a chance to watch.

I will indeed watch said video and see if it says what the truthers seem to want it to say, (which is what exactly?), and if my assessment that the individual in the video is most likely wrong, lying, mistaken or just had their message distorted, I'll happily say so.
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Dpn't forget to comment later. We will be very interested to hear your opinion then.
 
Marokkaan said:
nvidiot please leave the topic if you dont want to see the video.
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I'm unsure how many times I have to say this, but I'll do it again to make sure I'm crystal clear.

I cannot access the video from this device and in this location. When I get a chance to I will do so, and happily retract my hypothesis that it is just another example of truther "evidence".
 
AndrewBurley said:
Why should I discard his testimony in favour of a random person on the internet [...]
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AndrewBurley said:
He may have meant previously molten steel. That is, steel that had formed a liquid pool but then cooled and solidified again.
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So a random person on the internet is saying we should decide his testimony meant something different to what it said?

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Dave
 
nvidiot said:
No, I clearly pointed out that I can't watch the video at the moment, because of where I am and what device I'm using to access the internet. This has caused me to posit the hypothesis that almost every piece of YouTube "evidence" posted by truthers is wrong, mistaken, lying or distorted in some way, and take the punt that this hypothesis will be borne out when I do get a chance to watch.

I will indeed watch said video and see if it says what the truthers seem to want it to say, (which is what exactly?), and if my assessment that the individual in the video is most likely wrong, lying, mistaken or just had their message distorted, I'll happily say so.
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It's not like you formed a conclusion first and worked backward or anything.:rolleyes:
 
Marokkaan said:
nvidiot please leave the topic if you dont want to see the video.
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I think you'd understand our reluctance to waste time on a you tube video. You spam these videos around a lot, same old garbage. Are you hoping if you throw enough BS around that some of it will eventually stick?
 
Does somebody wants to tell Richard riggs did not see melted beams lol????
 
AndrewBurley said:
It's not like you formed a conclusion first and worked backward or anything.:rolleyes:
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This coming from a truther who concludes inside job and tries to make things fit that conclusion. It's always the same, you have your answer first and then you start JAQing off and clutching at straws.
 
AndrewBurley said:
He was a debris removal specialist that was there. Why should I discard his testimony in favour of a random person on the internet who won't even watch the video?
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Just a heads up for JREF members,Andrew Burley recently got banned from Digital Spy on this topic(CT). Amongst other fallacies he claimed there were no flight manifests. ;)
 
What surprises me the most is when you say to a truther that people witnessed a plane hitting the pentagon and there are numerous photos and videos showing parts of a plane on the ground, they say there were no witnesses, the say the photos and videos are doctored. Yet when they come across a video on youtube that they believe proves their point, everyone should take it at face value and not be skeptical or critical....
 
tjlance1 said:
What surprises me the most is when you say to a truther that people witnessed a plane hitting the pentagon and there are numerous photos and videos showing parts of a plane on the ground, they say there were no witnesses, the say the photos and videos are doctored. Yet when they come across a video on youtube that they believe proves their point, everyone should take it at face value and not be skeptical or critical....
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That's the nature of the beast that you yourself have created.

Its really the same with the Hoax (Holocaust). Hoaxsters feel obliged to defend everything....human soap, human hair socks, packing 2000 into a gas chamber, flames coming out of chimneys.

Because once you allow the possibility that ANYTHING has been faked, it fatally destroys confidence in the rest of the corpus.
 
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