• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Merged General Holocaust denial discussion thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Nick Terry said:
I could just as easily cite the murder of radio host Alan Berg by The Order, Eric Hunt kidnapping Elie Wiesel and the armed assault on USHMM by von Brunn as evidence of neo-Nazi and revisionist persecution of Jews in America.
Click to expand...
But the point you were making is that there was no persecution of holocaust revisionists in America. That is clearly not the case. www.ihr.org/books/ztn.html
 
Mondial said:
But the point you were making is that there was no persecution of holocaust revisionists in America. That is clearly not the case. www.ihr.org/books/ztn.html
Click to expand...

No, the point I was making was that deniers are not prosecuted in the US for advocating revisionism.

They're not actually persecuted, either. Random acts conducted by fringe groups do not constitute persecution. Deniers like Arthur Butz still hold down their jobs. Robert Countess held down his job as a professor until his death from a brain tumour.

If you disagree, please list all the Holocaust revisionists who have lost their jobs in the United States solely because of their beliefs becoming known.
 
Last edited:
Nick Terry said:
They're not actually persecuted, either. Random acts conducted by fringe groups do not constitute persecution.
Click to expand...

How is it that you can use your own actual name and post absurdity after absurdity? I confess I'm amazed.

If you want an example of persecution of revisionists just try to attend a lecture by David Irving. One of the foremost historians of Nazi Germany, and his lectures have are given to a handful of carefully screened attendees, under constant threat of physical attack from some idiotic group of Zionist thugs .... let's see if we can google them up ...... here's a sample ...

http://southsideara.blogspot.com/2011/05/nazi-scum-david-irving-speaks-at-drake.html
 
Saggy said:
Is this guy for real, with a real name?
Click to expand...

Good question. If you had read my post above, you would have had an answer.

The guy is called Jeff Prager and he's a CT nut. For example, he believes nukes brought down the WTC. As most CT nuts, he doesn't constrain his nuttiness to just one brand of reality denial, so he branches out into holocaust denial as well.

I don't know if he's Jewish, but since we only have his word for it, and he brandishes obvious lies about other stuff, I'd say he's lying about that too.
 
Nick Terry said:
No, the point I was making was that deniers are not prosecuted in the US for advocating revisionism.

They're not actually persecuted, either. Random acts conducted by fringe groups do not constitute persecution. Deniers like Arthur Butz still hold down their jobs. Robert Countess held down his job as a professor until his death from a brain tumour.

If you disagree, please list all the Holocaust revisionists who have lost their jobs in the United States solely because of their beliefs becoming known.
Click to expand...

Blurb of hate from the JDL
This world would be a happier place, indeed, when all the Jew-baiters and Jew-haters have disappeared, especially the most vicious hater of them all, David Cole.

Reward for Information

JDL wants to know the location of Holocaust denier David Cole, pictured above. Anyone giving us his correct address will receive a monetary reward. Contact us through e-mail immediately if you have information leading to the current location of David Cole.
Click to expand...

Nothing has changed since I posted the following 30th July 2011, 04:12 PM


Do know what the above is?

Let me tell you what it is not. It has nothing to do with threatening, finding or harming David Cole.

David Cole could be found and harmed at any time.

What was it? It was a warning, a not so veiled threat to any Jew, or anyone for that matter, who chooses to speak against the "JDL's Holocaust."

It was a warning, a not so veiled threat to any Jew, or anyone for that matter, who chooses to speak against JDL interests.
Click to expand...
 
Clayton Moore said:
Blurb of hate from the JDL


Nothing has changed since I posted the following 30th July 2011, 04:12 PM
Click to expand...

Please provide a link to your source.

For the record, I know that your source ISN'T the JDL. I just want to see if you're honest about which Nazi site you parrotted that from.
 
Last edited:
abaddon said:
Wow.

You blurb hate and racism all over this forum and then have the gall to accuse others.
Click to expand...

The point here is that accusing is all he does. I doubt anyone from JDL ever typed those words at all.
 
uke2se said:
Please provide a link to your source.

For the record, I know that your source ISN'T the JDL. I just want to see if you're honest about which Nazi site you parrotted that from.
Click to expand...

Of course you don't think the JDL would keep their hate one their site
against Cole and anyone who disagrees with them after it made its point? Do you?

You know the JDL did threaten Cole. So now the whistle blowers invalidate the truth?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Of course you don't think the JDL would keep their hate one their site
against Cole and anyone who disagrees with them after it made its point? Do you?

You know the JDL did threaten Cole. So now the whistle blowers invalidate the truth?
Click to expand...

Oh, yeah, sure JDL have many sites.

More unfounded conspiracism and racism.

Prove it.
 
uke2se said:
The guy is called Jeff Prager and he's a CT nut. ...

...I don't know if he's Jewish, but since we only have his word for it, and he brandishes obvious lies about other stuff, I'd say he's lying about that too.
Click to expand...

"I was born a Jew. An Ashkenazi Jew, a Khazar."

The only time I've read of Jews referred to as Khazars, it's in their role as Evil Fake Joooos, so I'm inclined to think pants on fire, too.
 
Wroclaw said:
No, the JDL definitely threatened Cole. There's no doubt about that.
Click to expand...
.
And so one group, disowned by mainstream Jewish organizations and whom even other deniers rightfully describe as a fringe group, published something that might be interpreted as threatening (altho the "tell us his location" did *not* appear on their website as many deniers have claimed).

And is rightfully condemned for it.

Does CM explicitly disown the Order, Eric Hunt and von Brunn all of whom did more than publish?

Does zie publicly deplore the lies of denier chimps like Rudolf, Zundel and Irving (or even take ownership of zir own)?

Will zie finally admit that zir denial has no other purpose than to (in what passes for zir mind) justify zir Jew hatred?




That would be "no", "no" and "when denier chimps fly out of my butt".
.
 
Well, I would say that the JDL was known for violence in its time, including not only the bombing of the IHR offices back in the '70s or '80s, but also, more importantly, the attempted bombing of the offices of Palestinian-American representative Alex Odeh. Their founder, Kahane, was a notable nutter.

But yes, the JDL was roundly denounced by all of mainstream Jewry and its representative organizations in its time.

Today, the JDL without Rubin is less than a paper tiger.

Eric Hunt, meanwhile, posts openly at CODOH, and is congratulated for his accosting of an elderly Holocaust survivor. Some hero.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top Bottom