Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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This is the closest thing you'll get to a transcript...

http://www.suijurisforum.com/subject-matter-jurisdiction-t421.html
Subject-Matter Juriscition

Beat a criminal contempt case with this.

Had an appeal, which was actually a "trial de novo". I had already filed all my evidence about why the "direct contempt of court" was just wrong. The municipal judge didn't write the reason for the contempt in the summary judgment OR the arrest report. I was wronged left and right.

I didn't object to personal jurisdiction when I got to court. I approached the tables, sat down. The judge asked each side if we were ready.

I said... I'm appearing specially to challenge the jurisdiction of the court. Judge kinda laughed and was like , "We're at the trial now!"

I said... "I was under the impression subject-matter jurisdiction can be challenged at ANY time."

Judge then held back the "bug eye" as best he could and passed the decision to the prosecutor. --> Prosecutor made some remark about how I knew what I got criminal contempt for. I smiled and shook my head in disapproval.

Judge then says, "I didn't ask that. Do you want to continue?" The prosecutor said, "NO!"

It's all in the paperwork, my friends. And a bit extra, too.
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Once again... the REASON is in the paperwork. I was the only one submitting paperwork, other than the municipal court's Abstract of Record. I was the only one who created a legitimate record. Yadda, Yadda...

It's all above. There is NOTHING more than what is in the paperwork.

The prosecutor's "recommendation" to not to proceed isn't much of a recommendation when he CAN'T proceed, according to THE LAW.
 
grndslm said:
No problem....

This is the closest thing you'll get to a transcript...

http://www.suijurisforum.com/subject-matter-jurisdiction-t421.html


Once again... the REASON is in the paperwork. I was the only one submitting paperwork, other than the municipal court's Abstract of Record. I was the only one who created a legitimate record. Yadda, Yadda...

It's all above. There is NOTHING more than what is in the paperwork.

The prosecutor's "recommendation" to not to proceed isn't much of a recommendation when he CAN'T proceed, according to THE LAW.
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And yet, you can't prove any of that with anything more than your own word.
 
grndslm said:
The municipal judge didn't write the reason for the contempt in the summary judgment OR the arrest report.
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Let's assume you are correct - i.e., that the charges were dropped because the first judge messed up.

What does this have to do with FOTLism?
 
Due Process..

Forming your record...

Understanding the nature of third-party court reporters...

Rights... (seriously, 13th Amendment is the only one you need to remember when dealing with government)

The real question is... why are you posting, affirmatively, about things of which you do not know??
 
Due Process..

Forming your record...

Understanding the nature of third-party court reporters...

Rights... (seriously, 13th Amendment is the only one you need to remember when dealing with government)

The real question is... why are you posting, affirmatively, about things of which you do not know??
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Why didnt you simply refuse to consent?
Or are you a barrack room lawyer?
 
grndslm said:
Due Process..
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Constitutional law. Not FOTLism

Forming your record...
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Gibberish - maybe FOTLism?

Understanding the nature of third-party court reporters...
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Court reporters are not in any way FOTL-related

Rights... (seriously, 13th Amendment is the only one you need to remember when dealing with government)
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Constitutional law. Not FOTLism

The real question is... why are you posting, affirmatively, about things of which you do not know??
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It appears you know nothing about FOTLism. When are you going post some evidence of FOTL success?
 
JB just PMed, and it was a lot less imaginative than I was hoping for....You'd think someone who has such an active fantasy life could be more creative!
 
Regarding grndslm's alleged FMOTL court victory:

The charge was "direct contempt of court". That would mean some sort of misbehavior in court observed by the judge, right? If so, it is probably fair to guess grndslm was cited for contempt in a different court room encounter where he tried out his leet FMOTL skills, and the judge eventually got fed up.

Since grndslm hadn't ever talked about that other case, we can conclude it didn't have a successful outcome for him.

It sounds like there may have been a procedural error regarding the charge of contempt, giving rise to the appeal. Is it also fair to assume, then, the prosecution saw no real advantage in pursuing a contempt charge from a case it had already won, and so moved the case be dropped?

It all seems to boil down to this: The FMOTL scam techniques made a bad situation worse. The only saving grace was a court error that mitigated some of the worse. Therefore, VICTORY!
 
The charge was "direct contempt of court". That would mean some sort of misbehavior in court observed by the judge, right? If so, it is probably fair to guess grndslm was cited for contempt in a different court room encounter where he tried out his leet FMOTL skills, and the judge eventually got fed up.
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Since grndslm hadn't ever talked about that other case, we can conclude it didn't have a successful outcome for him.
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correct
It sounds like there may have been a procedural error regarding the charge of contempt, giving rise to the appeal. Is it also fair to assume, then, the prosecution saw no real advantage in pursuing a contempt charge from a case it had already won, and so moved the case be dropped?
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correct
It all seems to boil down to this: The FMOTL scam techniques made a bad situation worse. The only saving grace was a court error that mitigated some of the worse. Therefore, VICTORY!
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he wouldnt produce his licence roadside, but did in court and admitted the tail light charge after getting locked up for a few hours for contempt.

yup freeman theory all the way
 
jsfisher said:
Regarding grndslm's alleged FMOTL court victory:

The charge was "direct contempt of court". That would mean some sort of misbehavior in court observed by the judge, right? If so, it is probably fair to guess grndslm was cited for contempt in a different court room encounter where he tried out his leet FMOTL skills, and the judge eventually got fed up.

Since grndslm hadn't ever talked about that other case, we can conclude it didn't have a successful outcome for him.

It sounds like there may have been a procedural error regarding the charge of contempt, giving rise to the appeal. Is it also fair to assume, then, the prosecution saw no real advantage in pursuing a contempt charge from a case it had already won, and so moved the case be dropped?

It all seems to boil down to this: The FMOTL scam techniques made a bad situation worse. The only saving grace was a court error that mitigated some of the worse. Therefore, VICTORY!
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I think you've got it exactly right.
 
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