Merged New video! Architects and Engineers - Solving the Mystery of Building 7

[Sunstealer]

You're not understanding. It can be ADDED to EXPLOSIVES. It is NOT the primary.

Sunsteeler most likely will adress this post more accurately.

Already done. He didn't read any of the papers he linked to and they don't show thermite being used as an explosive. It's the usual truther BS, trying to look all sciency, but failing rather well.

Infact if I was to sum it the entire truth movement with one word it would be ignorance.

 

[Sunstealer]

Off-topic. Mod, please stop this person from derailing threads.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Define an "explosion".

If you're like the NIST, your definition of explosion is anything greater than 130 dB?

What TYPE of explosion are we referring to? Have we determined that TNT is the only possible explanation for explosives?

How loud does nanothermite get when laced in a skyscraper and timed to go off around the same instant??

An explosion a rapid expansion of gasses usually generated by an extremely rapid chemical reaction (almost always greater than the speed of sound). Not all explosions are caused by explosives.

There is no physical evidence supporting explosives at the WTC. There are also several real life logistical issues that disprove the concept There were no explosives at the WTC.

Therm*te does not explode. No (or so little as to be negligible) gasses are produced, only heat. As such there is little to no noise when it is used. As with explosives there is no physical evidence of therm*te and there are the same type of logistical issues with the concept. There was no therm*te at the WTC.

 

[Edx]

This thermite doesnt explode business is irrelevant.

Even if it did, he claims 10 stories were literally vaporised like in Star Trek instantly all at the same time! NOTHING would do that!

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

He starts this thread and asks questions, then when provided with answers he just disappears with no acknowledgement of learning these to him apparently new things.
Is this standard M.O. for "truthers" (I have to use quotes because Marokkaan is starting to seem like somebody who isn't very interested in the truth.)

For some, but not all. Marokkaan is probably new to 9/11 Truth. Prior to his debut on this forum, he had probably spent days or weeks consuming every conspiracy source he could find. He probably felt he knew all there was to know and, in arrogance, thought he would put us in our place with his new-found knowledge.

He used to respond quickly to debunkings, which isn't too surprising from someone who's high on arrogance, ignorance, and youth. He seems to have slowed down, though, which probably indicates that this isn't as easy as he thought it would be...

 

[Venom]

You no likey da text?? How about some videos?

WTC7 explosion at 0:02 (right BEFORE the penthouse collapses) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3wZM47LxU&feature=share

Hoboken Eyewitness video confirms the SAME sound BEFORE all three collapse -- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4563604978641682920

That's the key. The timing is the key. Not the "adjusted volume" in the Hoboken video... but the timing. Do you understand?? Do you understand enough to explain WHAT the noise is, in a building that WASN'T hit by a plane. And why the noises BEFORE all three buildings collapse are IDENTICAL?? As well as the placement of military choppers overhead the buildings AS the buildings begin to collapse???

"To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth."
~ Voltaire.

Sure, you guys are really witty and can come up with a stream of 50 comments to hide this one, if it isn't deleted later... but I don't expect there is one single WITTY fellow [or gal] here that can answer this question: Why the explosion BEFORE the penthouse collapses?

Does your precious NIST report tell you what that noise is? Or does it say it rejected all noises less than 130 dB?? Hmm... selective hearing??

You don't know squat about what a controlled demo sounds like......do you? And don't even consider the fact that it takes months to prepare a small building for demolition, let alone ones the size of the WTCs. You can't do stuff like this in secret.....
and I don't expect you to be witty enough to reply to this either.

 

[tsig]

You didn't actually read any of those documents did you? You just typed thermite and explosive into the search fuction and linked to the list didn't you? You didn't realise that someone would actually read the papers did you?
We aren't truthers you know. We will read what you link.

As a materials engineer I'm always interested in reading new things so I read this one.


Explosive consolidation of combustion sythesized ceramics: TiC and TiB2

Basically it's a process called self-propagating high-temperature synthesis (SHS) used to make ceramics with a density of 98%.

Simply react a powder by combustion in an insulated container and then use the pressure from a separate* explosive to compact the hot pourous ceramic instead of sintering and pressing or hot isostatic pressing (HIP).

*Page 7.

There are 2 references to thermite in the paper and none of them relate to thermite being used as an explosive.

Funny how the welding of rails on railways can be done using thermite. Why would you want to use a material that will blow up and destroy the very thing you want to weld together AND kill the operators? Genius!

This is a reference.

So atavisms: why are you linking us to something that has no relevance to thermite being an explosive? Are you being dishonest on purpose?

Why is thermite used to weld rails together when it's a dangerous explosive capable of destroying steel and flinging steel hundreds of feet? atavisms?

That's ordinary thermite, gota watch that stuff when it goes nano on ya.

 

[tsig]

Wind? Riiiiight!!!

Once again... define: "Explosives".


They, in fact, must have been "vaporised", or else there would have been SOME form of resistance. But there was ZEROOOOOOOOOOO. Do you understand the number ZERO? NO RESISTANCE for 2.5 seconds EQUALS 10 floors that didn't even cause a HICCUP in the free fall descent.


Exactly.


Get you some GOOD HEADPHONES, then pay attention at 0:02, before the penthouse falls...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3wZM47LxU&feature=share

"Minority"?? What poll are you referring to?? I don't ever remember being asked to take place in such a poll. Exclusive polls are just that... exclusive.

The explosives could have been laced up and down the elevator shafts with nobody knowing. Might take a week or two, but it's entirely plausible. More plausible than the law of physics just suspending itself for one day.

Except the elevator repairmen.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Except the elevator repairmen.

And the well documented fact that the cores containing he elevators were the last part to collapse.

I love how he also says that it would "Only" take a few weeks to set up. Not only would it be the most complicated CD ever but it would be done in a fully functioning building with nobody noticing. Someone watches too many Michael Bay movies and thinks that's what real life is like.

 

[Edx]

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Phaser

The standard level 16 setting on a type 2 phaser can be used to vaporize tunnels through rock, large enough to crawl through. The level 16 wide-field setting can easily destroy half of a large building with a single shot.

OMG I found the weapons they must have used on WTC7!!

 

[triforcharity]

Grandslam was just overturned. Ruled a foul ball

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Off-topic. Mod, please stop this person from derailing threads.

You call that a derail? Please.

ETA: Oh, wait. That's what I get for replying without reading the rest of the thread...

grndslm has been banned for multiple breaches of the Membership Agreement, capped by advocating suicide.

*Shakes head* Fact of the matter is, it was Atavisms who linked material contradicting his own claims. Guess we're not supposed to even mention that the material was contradictory. That's truther logic for you.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

The despair of the US government to Cover-UP hide and get rid of the 911 evidence is already unbeliveable , anything is allowed to help with the 911 Controlled demolitions Cover-UP , killing the whistleblowers, killing the eyewitness, the Gangsters that rule the US government are worried about too many people becoming aware of the 911 WTC Controlled demolitions .





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Try that in a bigger type face and in Pink........Some might believe it then

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Hold a sec... isn't Dylan and the whole AE911 leadership still not only alive, but [somewhat] employed?

I think they are all vicsims! That would explain why they they are so incompetent......

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Sure, you guys are really witty and can come up with a stream of 50 comments to hide this one, if it isn't deleted later... but I don't expect there is one single WITTY fellow [or gal] here that can answer this question: Why the explosion BEFORE the penthouse collapses?

Big fires have "explosions" in them.....I've seen this myself so, why do you think it strange there were "explosions" in this one?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

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How loud does nanothermite get when laced in a skyscraper and timed to go off around the same instant??

It always seems to come back to nanny termites.....now of course since there were no cut beams, no timers, no residue, no shock cord.....

 

[twinstead]

sigh...

 

[Marokkaan]

Except

1. In the WTC the collapse starts before what you call "explosions" can be seen.

2. Verinage looks much more like your "explosions" of the WTC, yet it uses no explosives at all.

Great, than you must have an example of a verinage or a natural collapse, where you can see the same effect.

 

[Edx]

Great, than you must have an example of a verinage or a natural collapse, where you can see the same effect.

There is a montage of verinage demolitions you must have see which show what Im talking about. The debris "ejected" with verinage all have the same trajectory as the WTC collapses has. Just imagine verinage 110 stories high, a lot more dry wall for dust and with steel perimeter columns. There is otherwise essentially no difference,.

 

[Marokkaan]

There is a montage of verinage demolitions you must have see which show what Im talking about. The debris "ejected" with verinage all have the same trajectory as the WTC collapses has. Just imagine verinage 110 stories high, a lot more dry wall for dust and with steel perimeter columns. There is otherwise essentially no difference,.

So you can not show the same effect?