Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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cuki777 said:
Hmnn . . . and I put two 'l's in Raffele.
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Please ignore the snarky responses and the deliberate act of referring to you as someone else (which was not withdrawn after being pointed out). This is the reception people get when they dare to do other than accept AK's innocence as an article of faith.
 
lionking said:
Yup, the grand conspiracy again. Things don't hang together without it.
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You still haven't answered my question, as to why you think the police "conspiracy" (along with known police misconduct) less believable than the prosecution version of events.
lionking said:
What do you think of a conspiracy of police, prosecutors and forensic scientists which has hung together for years without a whistleblower?
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This question of yours has been answered many times: no "conspiracy" is required - just ass-covering following an initial, hasty, rush to an easy "solving" of the crime; something that in any case is commonplace among police forces in cases like this.

What about answering my question, and the other questions people have made on your position on the case?
 
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ToD please?

lionking said:
What do you think of a conspiracy of police, prosecutors and forensic scientists which has hung together for years without a whistleblower?
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Lionking,

Happens here in the US also. They need to keep up a facade of competence so as to keep the public's confidence that they always do a good job. Look at the Norfolk four case.

Now return the favor and tell me what you think the time of death was and what your evidence is to support it an don't forget Rudy's Skype call,

Dave

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Amy/Dave

Raffaele: “No, there has been no theft”. Reporting break in to Filomena's room before Filomena had returned to check.
 
Thanks lionking. I'm keeping a mental log of poster's credibility. Yours is now +1. I have found pro-guilt or pro-innocence is often approached in a religious way.
 
cuki777 said:
Amy/Dave

Raffaele: “No, there has been no theft”. Reporting break in to Filomena's room before Filomena had returned to check.
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cuki777,

I would have said the same thing if I saw an expensive computer on the floor. Is that it? And what involvement do you derive from your studies of the case?

Dave

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Antony said:
You still haven't answered my question, as to why you think the police "conspiracy" (along with known police misconduct) less believable than the prosecution version of events.
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Police, prosecutors and forensic scientists, not just police. All liars according to some. Nope, I don't buy it.
 
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cuki777 said:
Thanks lionking. I'm keeping a mental log of poster's credibility. Yours is now +1. I have found pro-guilt or pro-innocence is often approached in a religious way.
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cuki777,

that's funny. So do you now think I must be involved with Meredith's death too?

Dave

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ToD??

lionking said:
Police, prosecutors and forensic scientists, not just police. All liars according to some. Nope, I don't buy it.
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lionking

so you don't think it has ever happened? What is your explanation for the "Norfolk Four" case?

By the way, what about my time of death question?

Dave
 
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See the last ten or so posts speak volumes about this thread. It's been meandering along for pages with everyone in blissful agreement. When someone, new to the forum, comes along and doesn't agree with the prevailing view, snakiness and incivility follows. It's no wonder this thread has got the reputation across the forum it currently has.
 
lionking said:
What do you think of a conspiracy of police, prosecutors and forensic scientists which has hung together for years without a whistleblower?
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Hmm. Why do you think any of the corrupt and incompetent cops would want to admit guilt? There's no pressure on them and most likely they will get away with it, with everything written off as accidental evidence destruction, evidence lost by forgetfulness, crime scene contamination and errors in handling, etc. It's not like the ground is burning around them, they're given a clear exit from it with no one to blame. And they already got their praises and medals.
The only cop to suffer a bit is going to be Steffi, and no one is going to jail her for her "errors" and incompetence.
 
Amy

That's where we differ. I would have said, 'I'm not sure, it's not my room.' Some women have small items of expensive jewellery. Some people keep cash in a drawer.

Given what we know, many scenarios of involvement, could be construed but for now I'll just note elements that don't ring true to me if AK and RS were completely not involved.

For right now, I've got to go to work.
 
ToD???

lionking said:
See the last ten or so posts speak volumes about this thread. It's been meandering along for pages with everyone in blissful agreement. When someone, new to the forum, comes along and doesn't agree with the prevailing view, snakiness and incivility follows. It's no wonder this thread has got the reputation across the forum it currently has.
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lionking,

uncivility? hehehe, you're funny too. Don't forget misdirection too.

By the way, what about my ToD question?

Dave

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cuki777 said:
My position is 'involvement' not 'kill and rape'
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What is your evidence that AK and RS had any "involvement"? Is it the quote from the Sunday Mirror article?
RIP Meredith and closure for her family.
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Has it not occurred to you that the thing that has kept the Kercher family from closure is the entirely manufactured case against Amanda and Raffaele, for which the police and prosecution bear complete responsibility?
 
Thank you cuki777

cuki777 said:
Amy

That's where we differ. I would have said, 'I'm not sure, it's not my room.' Some women have small items of expensive jewellery. Some people keep cash in a drawer.

Given what we know, many scenarios of involvement, could be construed but for now I'll just note elements that don't ring true to me if AK and RS were completely not involved.

For right now, I've got to go to work.
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Nice talking to you cuki777. Have a good day at work and thank you for your reply. It makes sense, but doesn't mean they were involved. A scenario of innocence can be construed also. To me, there's a higher probability they weren't involved at all, but that's just me,

Dave

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komponisto said:
Quick and dirty translation:
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The defense maintains that it is necessary to consider the expert examination in light of the contrasting statements made at trial by witnesses from the Postal Police regarding the transfer and the analyses of the personal computers taken from the defendants, in particular the testimony of Marco TROTTA and Claudio TRIFICI of March 14, 2009, and Mirko GREGORI. Use of the Logic Cube machine, as reported by the witnesses mentioned, is not described in the report of Prof. Massimo Bernaschi of March 21, 2008, [just] as the activities of the witnesses during the examinations at Prof. Massimo Bernaschi's institute are not described.

We therefore request that the expert, Prof. Massimo Bernaschi, be called to testify by this honorable Court.
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Thanks for the quick translation, komponisto. Am I reading more into this than I should? It sounds to me like the defense is very suspicious of some conflicting statements here.
 
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