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Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

tmd2_1 said:
Give up..it's illegal to release footage of the ground?
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Who said the footage was of the ground? Why do you think the Pentagon has security cameras pointing at the ground?

tmd2_1 said:
Fire needs oxygen to survive, restrict the oxygen it goes away. I will not respond to any of your posts from now...it is clear you will just argue with everything when you are clearly wrong.
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And you can't find any way to get oxygen to a fire that you can't get water to? Seriously, do I need to draw you a picture?

But that's fine. Run away. It's what twoofers do best when their "arguments" inevitably fail.
 
tmd2_1 said:
The DOD and the pentagon work for us...BS that's it private property, and the few videos..that do belong to someone else...it should be up to them to release it. Show me one picture of the cladding melting...verified by someone other then a person at this site. It happened so much that day..there has to be one right?
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There's that infamous incredulity again. You really need to watch that.
 
sheeplesnshills said:
you claimed it was verified. you were asked, by whom? Simple question.....you said it was verified so you must know by whom. Tell us or retract your comment.:mad:
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Gage...etc....was it verified at the time by someone I don't know. It looks like molten steel, those look like beams..what else could it be?
 
tmd2_1 said:
Nothing there was hot enough to melt steel.
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how do you know that? who measured the temps deep inside the pile? did you?
Can you prove that a burning office debris pile CANNOT EVER get that hot?

It probably did not, but again you are making assertions you cannot back up.:mad:
 
tmd2_1 said:
Can I prove theremite can burn that long? Maybe not....but there are some who say it can (but I'm sure they are all quacks).
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Prove, please, that anyone with any relevant qualifications has claimed any such thing. It's a point truthers all very carefully avoid responding to; they know perfectly well that it's impossible for thermite to continue reacting for weeks, and will refuse to answer the question when anyone asks them how it's possible, yet they still keep claiming that heat in the rubble pile weeks after the collapses may have been caused by thermite that was used to cause the collapses. It's such an obvious piece of cognitive dissonance that it's positively funny; their own behaviour shows that, on some level, they know their theories are impossible, but they can't bring themselves to admit it.

Dave
 
tmd2_1 said:
Gage...etc....was it verified at the time by someone I don't know. It looks like molten steel, those look like beams..what else could it be?
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Molten aluminum, as those look like aluminum cladding.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Show me one picture of the cladding melting...verified by someone other then a person at this site. It happened so much that day..there has to be one right?
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Show me one picture of the steel melting...verified by someone other then a person at this site. It happened so much that day..there has to be one right?

Two can play at that silly game. ;)
 
sheeplesnshills said:
how do you know that? who measured the temps deep inside the pile? did you?
Can you prove that a burning office debris pile CANNOT EVER get that hot?

It probably did not, but again you are making assertions you cannot back up.:mad:
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You should drop this argument...many people here will tell you it shouldn't have been hot enough to melt steel.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Gage...etc....was it verified at the time by someone I don't know. It looks like molten steel, those look like beams..what else could it be?
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so you lied about it being verified. Thanks for confirming that.

it looks like very hot something and those are Aluminum cladding U sections not steel beams.....anything else is just a wild guess.
 
tmd2_1 said:
The DOD and the pentagon work for us..
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Indeed... and voter elected officials to oversee and make laws regarding what they do. Those laws prevent them from releasing materials without the proper protocols. Now because you don't like that doesn't change reality.

BS that's it private property, and the few videos..that do belong to someone else...it should be up to them to release it.
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And how do you know haven't decided not to?



Show me one picture of the cladding melting...verified by someone other then a person at this site. It happened so much that day..there has to be one right?
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Walk around in circles, walk around in circles. So far the only person saying that it is steel is you, and only you. Your own source calls it "metal". We have no reason to believe its steel other than your say so. The only thing that that material fits by visual inspection is the Al cladding. What is glowing there is not connected to the metal.As has been demonstrated you can't jusdge glowing anything by eye sight. You have yet to provide an example of a steel beam meeting that description from the WTC. Do you understand this, or do I need to make a pop up book for you?

tmd2_1 said:
I'll make an exception, those pictures show no cladding melting what so ever. Not even close.
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HEY! Look at those exact lengths of U shaped grey material! We have seen that somewhere before haven't we?
 
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tmd2_1 said:
You should drop this argument...many people here will tell you it shouldn't have been hot enough to melt steel.
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His argument was that you're spewing cow feces. He's right about that.
 
Sunstealer said:
Show me one picture of the steel melting...verified by someone other then a person at this site. It happened so much that day..there has to be one right?

Two can play at that silly game. ;)
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Everything..in that picture points to steel, I would like to see a picture to compare it to. In fact show me one verified report of cladding melting.
 
1 picture of melting exterior aluminium cladding

Verified

people_jumping_from_wtc.jpg
 
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Dave Rogers said:
Prove, please, that anyone with any relevant qualifications has claimed any such thing. It's a point truthers all very carefully avoid responding to; they know perfectly well that it's impossible for thermite to continue reacting for weeks, and will refuse to answer the question when anyone asks them how it's possible, yet they still keep claiming that heat in the rubble pile weeks after the collapses may have been caused by thermite that was used to cause the collapses. It's such an obvious piece of cognitive dissonance that it's positively funny; their own behaviour shows that, on some level, they know their theories are impossible, but they can't bring themselves to admit it.

Dave
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Jon Cole..Steven Jones...but I know they are not qualified.
 
waypastvne said:
1 picture of melting exterior aluminium cladding

Verified

[qimg]http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/people_jumping_from_wtc.jpg[/qimg]
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I'm not sure that shows cladding melting...but nothing that picture...looks like the pictures I showed...that's for sure.
 
tmd2_1 said:
You should drop this argument...many people here will tell you it shouldn't have been hot enough to melt steel.
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yes, but none would say it couldn't for a short time in one location have been hot enough. Simply not enough data on this type of fire. And I agree it likely was not, as there is no signs of any melted beams:rolleyes:. It was however easily hot enough to melt tin, lead, copper, zinc and aluminium and there was lots of that in the towers, and the planes, and we know that people cannot easily tell them from molten steel.........
 
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