Merged Evolution battle brews in Texas / Victory for Evolution in Texas

[Jekyll's Guest]

Alabama finally recognized gravity?!

The gavel struck and all the judges fell 20 feet to the floor.

 

[Travis]

Well Alabama did once refuse to acknowledge π as anything other than the whole number 3.



Well not really. But would you put it past them?

 

[Ausmerican]

Well Alabama did once refuse to acknowledge π as anything other than the whole number 3.



Well not really. But would you put it past them?

Georgia still refuses to acknowledge any pi other than peach.

 

[summand]

Evolution vs. Creationism: 14 : 0
http://ncse.com/news/2011/07/victory-evolution-texas-006802

 

[leftysergeant]

Maybe the text book publishers decided that they were not making enough money to resist a boycott from other states if they tailored their product to cater for the looney tunes in Texas.

 

[Ladewig]

huh?
my point remains that there must be a large number of people in Texas that have draconian attitudes, else there would not be weekly executions and Rick Perry would not be governor.

Because legislature has finally changed the law to allow "life without parole" the number of executions has been dropping.


As for Governor Perry, in the 2006 election, he won with less than a majority of the votes cast. In a six-way race, he garnered less than 40% of the votes (1,714,618 votes (which is not a large number in a state with 25 million residents).

The last election was 2,733,784 to 2,102,606, in Perry's favor. If only 316,000 people voted the other way, Perry would have lost. Claiming that Perry (a jackass pandering to the religious right) is evidence that Texans are a draconian people is the height of absurdity.

Texas is a stronghold of conservative christian thought.
are you going to argue that it is not?

Houston elected a lesbian mayor. Houston police officers for the past 10 years have been allowed to march in Houston's Gay Pride Parade in uniform. There are still a lot of cities in the U.S. where that is not permitted.

My point is that Texas is not as homogeneous as you think.

 

[Vortigern99]

Georgia still refuses to acknowledge any pi other than peach.

"No, son -- pi are round. Cornbread are square!"

 

[Vortigern99]

Because legislature has finally changed the law to allow "life without parole" the number of executions has been dropping.


As for Governor Perry, in the 2006 election, he won with less than a majority of the votes cast. In a six-way race, he garnered less than 40% of the votes (1,714,618 votes (which is not a large number in a state with 25 million residents).

The last election was 2,733,784 to 2,102,606, in Perry's favor. If only 316,000 people voted the other way, Perry would have lost. Claiming that Perry (a jackass pandering to the religious right) is evidence that Texans are a draconian people is the height of absurdity.



Houston elected a lesbian mayor. Houston police officers for the past 10 years have been allowed to march in Houston's Gay Pride Parade in uniform. There are still a lot of cities in the U.S. where that is not permitted.

My point is that Texas is not as homogeneous as you think.

Nominated!

 

[Ladewig]

Look at it this way: If you need heart surgery, would you want a surgeon who was taught creationist garbage in school to be digging around in your chest cavity?

I cannot understand the amount of willful ignorance that goes into believing that the Earth is 6000 years old. It is beyond nutty. I certainly don't want it taught outside of religion classes.

That being said, in choosing a heart surgeon, I really don't care if he was or wasn't taught creationism in high school. In fact, it is possible for a practicing creationist to be an excellent heart surgeon. I'm pretty much only going to look at his experience and success rate in deciding if he is qualified enough to operate on me.
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Speaking of heart surgery, Texas was the site of a number of firsts in the field of heart surgery and two of the field's greatest pioneers (Denton Cooley and Michael DeBakey) practiced in Houston. In fact, the city is still considered to a world-class medical community.

 

[Jack Astor]

I graduated from Texas Tech, so pardon any bad grammar.

In the crazy race, I'd say Arizona and Texas are neck and neck first place; with the other usual suspects (every Southern state) trailing closely behind. Oklahoma gets honorable mention, seeing how they made sure those hordes of Muslims taking over the place don't impose Sharia law (the only reason Texas doesn't drop off into the Gulf of Mexico, is because Oklahoma sucks).

I'm from Lubbock, and my family still lives there. Out there in West Texas, they think Rick Perry is a bit too much of a liberal do-gooder. I grew up learning Jesus loves you, and he's gonna send me to the place where the feller with the horns and pitchfork conducts his business -- and sex is vulgar, sinful, nasty, evil; and should be only be saved for the one you love. There's a reason why we're all nuts.

Fortunately, there are some pockets of enlightenment in Texas.

 

[Ladewig]

My point is that Texas is not as homogeneous as you think.

In fact, I consider Texas to be one of the five least homogeneous states in the Union.


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Yes. I admit I have become one of those people who quotes his own posts. Feel free to mock me mercilessly.

 

[Halfcentaur]

Despised Okie, here.

Even I'm smart enough to know you don't mess with Texas. Or Oklahoma. 'Cuz we're OK.

Damn skippy. *rolls up shirt sleeves*

Oklahoma just had a similar victory several months back, thanks in no small part to aid from the Clergy Letter Project. Check out the "criticism" section for a good chuckle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clergy_Letter_Project

They're getting desperate.

 

[Ausmerican]

I graduated from Texas Tech, so pardon any bad grammar.

In the crazy race, I'd say Arizona and Texas are neck and neck first place; with the other usual suspects (every Southern state) trailing closely behind. .

Now you just hold on a minute!

As a resident of Arizona I have to protest and stick for where I live. Given our much smaller size and miniscule population in comparison to Texas we have you beat silly in the crazy stakes! And you Texans damn well know it!

You have the entire city of Houston to hold up as a beacon of sanity, you know what we have? Tucson. Now Joe Arpaio may not quite match Perry on a national lunacy level but his longevity speaks volumes to the pure river of redneck that runs through this state.

Texan lunacy in the main is confined to thinking that they are big.

 

[Darth Rotor]

wow.
so who do you suppose elected rick perry?

Tell ya what, druid, look up the 2006 election results, and the previous campaign, and figure out who did.

The election for Governor of Texas.

Educate yourself, lad, and put the E into JREF your own self.

Darth Out

 

[bikerdruid]

Tell ya what, druid, look up the 2006 election results, and the previous campaign, and figure out who did.

The election for Governor of Texas.

Educate yourself, lad, and put the E into JREF your own self.

Darth Out

darth, dude....it was a rhetorical question, but thanks.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Maybe the text book publishers decided that they were not making enough money to resist a boycott from other states if they tailored their product to cater for the looney tunes in Texas.

Not to jump on Lefty, since this is a common refrain, but from publishers I've talked to this is not much of an issue anymore. Apparently the printing process is nimble enough for them to have several versions of a text without much added cost and they have been doing so for some time. So, while this was a good way to get outsiders interested in Texas's education board struggles, it is less of an issue than it used to be.

 

[AdMan]

Not to jump on Lefty, since this is a common refrain, but from publishers I've talked to this is not much of an issue anymore. Apparently the printing process is nimble enough for them to have several versions of a text without much added cost and they have been doing so for some time. So, while this was a good way to get outsiders interested in Texas's education board struggles, it is less of an issue than it used to be.

Interesting--and good to hear.

 

[Philosaur]

So perhaps you should remember that next time you hear a stereotype about Texas and keep your cool. 'kay?

"Lengthy and irate"? "Keep my cool"? Can you please indicate in the snipped post where I am being "irate" and where you believe I need to "keep my cool"? I think my tone and language is quite reasonable:

Vortigern, Mudcat's response embodies a favorite tactic on this and other forums.

Bob: I think vanilla ice cream is best.

Alice: Well, I enjoy chocolate ice cream more.

Bob: WHOA! Dial it down a notch, Alice! What's with all the histrionics?! You know, you should really try to stay rational and civil, and not fly off the handle. It really hurts your credibility and marks you as an ignorant fool. Also, if you're going to disagree with someone, you could try to be a little nicer.

Alice: All I said was that I prefer chocolate. I'm merely expressing my opinion.

Bob: Geez, Alice! I'm about two seconds from reporting you for harassment. Your ad homs are not appreciated. Furthermore, you are equivocating on the word "prefer", and making a blatant appeal to authority with the "I said" crap.

 

[Apathia]

I tried pleasing someone once, and then everyone expected me to do the same for them.

I think you ought to admit that the flow of idiocy from Texas has surpassed the flow of idiocy from the rest of the United States (combined) for the past several years. It is possible that I missed a few glimmers of light that may have escaped from the galaxy-sucking black hole of willful ignorance that is Texas. If so, I apologize to those lonely few who have, so far, escaped obliteration.

Take it back, Complexity! Take it back.
Texas doesn't have as many bat-crazy legislators as Arizona!

 

[Apathia]

Now you just hold on a minute!

As a resident of Arizona I have to protest and stick for where I live. Given our much smaller size and miniscule population in comparison to Texas we have you beat silly in the crazy stakes! And you Texans damn well know it!

You have the entire city of Houston to hold up as a beacon of sanity, you know what we have? Tucson. Now Joe Arpaio may not quite match Perry on a national lunacy level but his longevity speaks volumes to the pure river of redneck that runs through this state.

Texan lunacy in the main is confined to thinking that they are big.

Oops! You beat me to the Arizona Bashing!