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Merged Freeman on the Land in America/lawful rebellion/sovereign citizens

When I say "CANNOT" I hope no one confuses it with "will not".
A court simply does not have the authority to make that decision.
 

An update:
Lance of the family Thatcher has returned to court and has continued to refuse to identify himself. In fact he now wishes to be only addressed as "Peaceful" :D

Three more jail days and back to court on Thursday when they hope to have witnesses who can identify Peaceful.

http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/...me-in-jail-for-refusing-to-give-name-in-court

A Merritt man who refuses to tell the court his name will spend three more nights in jail as the Crown brings in witnesses to prove his identity.

For a second time since his arrest on breach of probation charges last week, Lance Thatcher refused to acknowledge he is Lance Thatcher, telling the judge he prefers to be addressed as "Peaceful."

"I believe there has been a mistake. I'm here to help settle the mistake in honour," he told provincial court judge Sheri Donegan. "I trust I will not be led into dishonour."

"Are you Lance Edward Thatcher?" the judge asked the man directly.

"That's a mistake. Somebody feels I own (the name) or have a claim on it," he said. "I am here to help out to settle this matter in honour."

The judge temporarily adjourned the hearing to allow the Crown time to find a way to prove Thatcher's identity.

Prosecutor Stephen Lawhead returned a short while later and said he can call witnesses who know Thatcher, but not until later in the week. Thatcher's probation officer is expected to identify the man.

Thatcher told the court only he can identify himself.

"Nobody can identify me except me," he said.

"Are you prepared to identify yourself?" Donegan asked.

"I am me, yes. This is me. I am me," he answered.

The judge sent him on his way in the company of the courtroom sheriffs.

This is not the first time Thatcher has refused to identify himself to the courts, police officers or other authorities. A term of his most recent probation order requires him to give his proper name to police or probation officers when asked.

It's not known if Thatcher is practicing some form of "freeman" ideology. The Freeman Association of Canada encourages people to believe Canada's laws do not apply to them. May so-called freemen refuse to use their legal names, or alter the spelling of their names with the odd use of punctuation.

A different judge last week suggested Thatcher might be mentally ill, and asked if a psychiatric assessment might be required. The prosecutor said at this stage, there is no grounds to order such an assessment.

Thatcher will be back in court Thursday.
 
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The man was arrested last week in Merritt after he failed to attend court as required. He is charged with a series of incidents including ramming a police vehicle with his truck, uttering threats and dumping garbage on a person at the local dump.

For a second time since his arrest on breach of probation charges last week, Lance Thatcher refused to acknowledge he is Lance Thatcher, telling the judge he prefers to be addressed as "Peaceful."

:D
 
An update:
Lance of the family Thatcher has returned to court and has continued to refuse to identify himself. In fact he now wishes to be only addressed as "Peaceful" :D

Sounds like he has been listening to John Lennon too much.

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

,,,,

I am the eggman, they are the eggmen.
I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob.
Goo goo g'joob g'goo goo g'joob g'goo... (etc.)

All we are saying is give peace a chance

Norm
 
I discovered an interesting variation of the X of the family Y thing:

" Moving-World DECEPTION!! - The Grandaddy of all False-Science Government Funding* Frauds!

- True-Science website created by: Bernard of the bloodline-heritage Brauer, a spiritual man created by God
and joint-heir with Christ of the Kingdom of God.

(Be careful of using the word Family: A name that comes from the Roman root word: Familae, definition: A household, of SLAVES)"

https://sites.google.com/site/earthdeception/

Kookadookery abounds here....beware, beware!
 
https://sites.google.com/site/earthdeception/the-name-game

"The ‘Crown’ is the administrative corporation of the Pontiff of Rome owned City of London, the financial, legal and professional standards capitol of/for the Vatican. The City of London is a square-mile area within Greater London, England, and is an independent city-state."

Ow, my head.
 
https://sites.google.com/site/earthdeception/the-name-game

"The ‘Crown’ is the administrative corporation of the Pontiff of Rome owned City of London, the financial, legal and professional standards capitol of/for the Vatican. The City of London is a square-mile area within Greater London, England, and is an independent city-state."

Ow, my head.

Perhaps that explains the 'congestion charge' that has to be paid for a vehicle entering this approximate zone - the money is going to the Pope!

&, to add insult, I thought our majesty QE2 was in charge!

Was Henry VIII in fact engaged in sacrificial rituals with regard to his 6 wives and not just hankering after some new tottie?
 
another loon on Ickes
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060029231&postcount=7
For instance, my wife and I just witnessed the first truly Free Man to be Borne into our family in generations. We did it at a hospital. We filed a Borne plan (if anyone wants to read it, PM me). And guess what? We did not fingerprint/footprint, no DNA, no blood drawn, no genetic testing, no Vitamin K, no eye drops, and NO BIRTH RECORD SIGNATURES. The staff were very divided as to how they felt about it and we became rather famous. But most of the nurses (especially this one from Canada...what is it about Canadians and freedom?) fully supported what we were doing. Our stance was simple: we do not fully comprehend the nature of the relationship that is established with the State, upon completion of a Live Birth Record/SS-5 and as such we cannot enter into such a relationship until we do properly comprehend the terms. The administrator responsible for filing BCs with the State tried very hard to get us to provide some kind of information and signatures for a BC but we held our ground and walked out without doing any of that. In the end all she could do was provide a simple sheet stating that there was a "birth" of "unknown" to my wife, with no signatures (therefore not binding lawfully or legally), and with our refusal to consent noted and on record.

Hopefully social services will be alerted and the child's welfare is taken into consideration.

In my opinion any parent who believes their child belongs to the state if they register its birth is automatically unsuitable to have him/her.
 
News of Liberty of the savoy is leaked to a freeman

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we do not fully comprehend the nature of the relationship that is established with the State, upon completion of a Live Birth Record/SS-5 and as such we cannot enter into such a relationship until we do properly comprehend the terms

another loon on Ickes
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060029231&postcount=7


Hopefully social services will be alerted and the child's welfare is taken into consideration.

In my opinion any parent who believes their child belongs to the state if they register its birth is automatically unsuitable to have him/her.

You rarely see the argument from ignorance so clearly stated.
 
The plot thickens over on Ickes:


Rumplestilkin
Many do walk free, it would look pretty ridiculous if everyone was convicted now wouldn't it, they allow a set quota to go free to keep up the pretence of justice.

Yes of course they do.
Its like all the driving instructors getting together at the start of testing day and deciding who passes and who fails.

Its the luck of the draw

This is amazing stuff! Come on, which one of you is posting as kaisersozey? Please stop. You're killing me.
 
Holy! I can't believe this thread is still going. I just checked an old e-mail account I haven't used in a while and got an update from the thread subscription. I completely forgot about this.

Well... I wrote all of this in high school. Oddly enough I'm studying economics and programming now, and needless to say I've grown up a little bit and realized the absurdity of my old beliefs. Sorry if I came across as a wacko or an ass. To tell you the truth, I believed in this stuff because on the inside of this group, it made sense. But on the outside, the holes and the flaws became apparent. I chose to ignore a larger base of research that proved the very contrary.

Again, sorry if I came across as a wacko.
 
Most people do realise its muppetry after a while and come back down to earth, some occasionally go all the way with it and end up losing their homes and liberty.
Thats just natural selection in action.

Welcome back to reality my ill will.
 
Most people do realise its muppetry after a while and come back down to earth, some occasionally go all the way with it and end up losing their homes and liberty.
Thats just natural selection in action.

Welcome back to reality my ill will.

I feel like I just had an intervention. Thanks, buddy.
 

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