bikerdruid
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absolutely wrong.
shrek is making excellent points, and is a breath of fresh air in this forum.
i'm merely giving credit where credit is due.
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absolutely wrong.
shrek is making excellent points, and is a breath of fresh air in this forum.
i'm merely giving credit where credit is due.
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He says we do not care about the crimes in Vietnam because Kissinger is still a free man.
What he's trying to say is that Iraqis must not have cared about how they were treated under Saddam, since they were unable to oust him.
How does that even make sense?
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bikerdruid
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my sentiments exactly.
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bikerdruid
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if americans really cared about justice, kissinger, cheney, bush, rumsfeld and rice would be behind bars.
the simple fact that they are not is ample evidence of american double standards.
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And the fact that he did makes him great, how?
Anyone else?
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And the fact that you repeatedly refuse to come up with anything backing up your claims in this thread makes your posts worth reading, how?
It's disillusioning to read that some Danish don't care about evidence.
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Really? Examples?
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While all acts of terrorism are atrocities, not all atrocities are terrorism. Do you understand that?
I don't think you do, and in fact your chief concern is watering down the definition of the word "terrorism" so you can accuse non-terrorists of terrorism while actual terrorists get a pass.
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What issue of the NYT?
eta: I found it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/16/u...id.html?scp=16&sq=convoys&st=nyt&pagewanted=2
It's pretty ambiguously written, not sourced, I think this is a case of too much condensing of the story. I really doubt Bush demanded an end to food convoys.
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No.
First off, even to the extent that anything he said came from the NYT, his repetition clearly presents an endorsement of that information. If the information is wrong, it doesn't STOP being wrong just because it came from the NYT before Chomsky repeated it.
But more importantly, you're merely parroting his own dishonest excuse, because he DIDN'T simply get this from the NYT. The NYT and other news sources presented statements about what various people said. But Chomsky not only repeats those statements, he uses them to justify conclusions that do not come from the NYT, or anybody else. Conclusions which have no basis in reality, at the time or in subsequent events.
I've been through this before, Empress. You even posted in the thread, though much later, so you might have missed it.
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You failed to show Chomsky "wrong" on this before, you mean. That's what the poster asked you about. Instead, you went on a rant about how Chomsky dared to add one (millions starving, dependent on international aid) and one (demand from Washington to cut the supply lines for that aid) together. If the New York Times would state things like this explicitly, there wouldn't be a need for a Chomsky.
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Follow the thread for more than one response, CE. For example, note posts #53 and #74. I wasn't wrong, I was right. And Chomsky wasn't right, he was wrong. And you're not even trying to defend him on the merits of what he said anymore.
There's no need for anyone to make inflammatory accusations which aren't based on any facts and which are contradicted by actual events. But sure, if the NYT started doing that (or more correctly, started doing more of that), then Chomsky's role would be redundant. Hurah.
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If Afghanistan would be a model democracy today, you might have a point, but it isn't. It's one of the most backwards countries on the planet and an utterly destroyed hellhole, ten years after Chomsky's article. If his warning about starving population was entirely accurate or just picking a tendency from the recent news is completely irrelevant. In tendency he was - bloody - right and you just don't like to see the ugly, big picture.
I am not ignoring this.
I have repeatedly said that only 99% (tentative figure) does not care a heck (much).
There may well be a 1% and probably there is a 1% of the American population who really cares of American crimes.
What does this has to do with the crimes of US troops in Vietnam I do not know
Very obvious I would say.
Not exactly.
I said that the greatest part of the American population does not care much about American crimes in Vietnam.
I can not see any other explanation for the fact that almost (exception of My Lai) no war tribunal has been setup to condemn US troops.
If you have any other valid explanation, you are very welcome to provide
Iraqis lived under a dictator.
Americans dont
See the above
Not that other countries are any different.
Why was Hirohito not put on trial?
Just for a start..
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Why don't you start a thread about it?