Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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CM, I'd appreciate an answer to my question; are there autistic children who have not received vaccines?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Sure I did.

He referenced it in his recent post. I referenced it in one of almost a thousand posts.

You found it so one of you just post the link.
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Just FYI, when you quote a post, it generates a little arrow next to the poster's name in the quoted post. If you click the arrow, it takes you to that original post. You could have clicked what I quoted and found this without having to search at all.

Here is the original link to the multi-page article which refers to the findings in Sweden and Denmark. You're welcome.

Tolls said:
Indeed,
Very wrong.
All the studies there are significantly larger than the one mentioned in Clayton Moore's article. They also involved examining whether there was any increase in autism from MMR after the introduction of the jab, so the idea that the children were recruited for a vaccine study is nonsense.
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I thought he was joking about the link because he was the one that posted it first.
 
Took my kid in for some vaccinations today.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for signs of autism and report back.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The HIV reference was to show the value of record keeping and the ability to identify virus strains. Science.

BTW Autism is a condition not a disease.

Inherited tendencies toward a condition do not appear world wide.

The only thing/body intrusion all these children have in common in their environment are the vaccines.
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That is why I did not give you examples of inheritance!

Okay, the grey squirrel population increase was only in North America, but the other two examples were worldwide and coincident with autism increases. Why do you think vaccines are involved, but not carbon dioxide increases? Enough carbon dioxide can displace oxygen and cause brain damage in an enclosed room- are you sure the recent increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere might not be hurting venerable young children's brains? Or the world-wide increase in fructose corn sweetener since the 1970s (the children at risk have just begun to eat solid foods)? Or increased use of the GHz band of the radio spectrum?

Of course my point is not to make you paranoid about these other changes, but simply that a lot has changed over the past decades worldwide. In fact, the studies cited elsewhere in this thread show that the one thing/body intrusion all these children with autism do NOT have in common are the vaccines. The studies show no change in autism risk plus or minus vaccines! Fight autism, not a straw man.

(Sorry for the delay in my response- I don't post from work).
 
beren said:
Took my kid in for some vaccinations today.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for signs of autism and report back.
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Day 2 Update:

Her arms are still sore.
She throws a fit if I try to take of the band-aids.
Slight fever.

NO SIGNS OF AUTISM YET.

Further bulletins as events warrant.
 
beren said:
Took my kid in for some vaccinations today.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for signs of autism and report back.
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Mini-Arisia has had all the vaccinations her doctor could give her, and she's made it to age 14 without a whiff of ASD. She has 9 cousins, all of whom have received all of their vaccinations (and so did their parents)... three of those 9 cousins are on the Autism spectrum... that they were born that way is the only explanation that makes sense to me.
 
beren said:
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Day 2 Update:

Her arms are still sore.
She throws a fit if I try to take of the band-aids.
Slight fever.

NO SIGNS OF AUTISM YET.

Further bulletins as events warrant.
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Don't tell the anti-vaccers.
They'll take that nicely out of context given half a chance.

Vaccines give you fits!
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Tolls said:
Don't tell the anti-vaccers.
They'll take that nicely out of context given half a chance.

Vaccines give you fits!
:mad:
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Taking away prized possessions gives you fits. And any parent knows how valuable band aids are.

But I did include that to a bait. :)
 
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Took her out to eat. She was really shy to a tall stranger. She was non communicative with him.

ONE DAY AFTER THE MMR VACCINE.



Autism!!!
 
CM, you keep following the red herrings. My research shows that worldwide, clowns are getting less common. If you invert the curve for the decline Guess what?! It matches exactly the curve for autism increase.
It is clear that clowns prevent autism.
 
beren said:
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Took her out to eat. She was really shy to a tall stranger. She was non communicative with him.

ONE DAY AFTER THE MMR VACCINE.



Autism!!!
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A person joking about their child getting autism.:o
 
Giordano said:
I simply don’t understand the opposition to vaccination. Vaccination is one of the greatest success stories of modern medicine. It's all "natural," and uses the body's own healing power. It's the only form of "homeopathy" that actually works: a little bit of a substance now protects you from a fatal dose later.
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Please consider this a nitpick, but an important one. The notion that homeopathy is related to vaccination is not a valid one; vaccination doses are carefully calculated to be the best amount according to scientific tests. They do not rely on the speculation that "less is more," and they do not rely on the "law of similars."

And it can be clearly shown by tests that there is an active ingredient in vaccines. There is no active ingredient at all in most homeopathic solutions and an insufficient amount to have any measurable effect in others. Furthermore, no homeopathic solutions have been tested and found to work under the same controls as vaccines.

In short, it is improper and misleading to compare the proven efficacy of vaccines to the discredited 19th Century speculation of a crank.
 
Tomblvd said:
I knew that would bring you out from under your rock.

There are loads of questions you have yet to answer. How about a little less fake outrage and a little more information?
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But his information is fake, too!
 
Sherman Bay said:
Please consider this a nitpick, but an important one. The notion that homeopathy is related to vaccination is not a valid one; vaccination doses are carefully calculated to be the best amount according to scientific tests. They do not rely on the speculation that "less is more," and they do not rely on the "law of similars."

And it can be clearly shown by tests that there is an active ingredient in vaccines. There is no active ingredient at all in most homeopathic solutions and an insufficient amount to have any measurable effect in others. Furthermore, no homeopathic solutions have been tested and found to work under the same controls as vaccines.

In short, it is improper and misleading to compare the proven efficacy of vaccines to the discredited 19th Century speculation of a crank.
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I realize "tone" doesn't always come through adequately in a post, but if you re-read the context, and notice the quote marks around homeopathy, you will realize that I was indulging in a bit of whimsy. My apologizes for stirring you up; believe me, homeopathy is not one of my beliefs...
 
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