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March 16 1945, CJC

SURVIVORS FROM OSWEICIM CAMP ARRIVE IN BUCHAREST

BUCHAREST (JTA) - A group of 44 Jewish survivors from the Oswiecim "extermination camp" arrived here this week including a number of Jews who were deported by the Germans from Paris and Brussels.

The Jewish survivors from Oswiecim who arrived here all told the same gruesome stories of how hundreds of thousands of Jews were burned alive in the ovens of the camp. They also related how 3,000 Jewish children, brought to the camp from the Polish towns of Sosnowiec and Bendin, as well as from the Teresienstadt, were killed by the Germans in the Oswiecim gas chambers. The crematories in the extermination camps of Oswiecim and Birkenau were operated under the command of Gestapo leaders Schwarleiber and Palatisch, notorious throughout Germany for their cruelty.
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Another Holocaust lies finest minute. And there are so many of them.
 
The secret of the Holocaust was the building of hate with outrageous lies. The lies are eventually uncovered and discarded but the hate remains. Kinda like the century old family feuds, origin unknown.

The rabbit uncovers those lies so they can be discarded.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The secret of the Holocaust was the building of hate with outrageous lies. The lies are eventually uncovered and discarded but the hate remains.
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Except, oddly enough, in Germany, where the Holocaust is accepted as an undoubted historical event and Germany's role in it acknowledged.

Of all the places on the globe where denying the Holocaust should be present, it ought to be in Germany itself. It ought to be pushing the hardest of any country to prove the crime it was accused and convicted of committing did not actually happen. It should be fighting the hardest of all to clear its name.

But the opposite is true: Germany has consistently and publicly accepted the Holocaust and its role in it.

This is a major problem for your assertion.
 
Corsair 115 said:
Except, oddly enough, in Germany, where the Holocaust is accepted as an undoubted historical event and Germany's role in it acknowledged.

Of all the places on the globe where denying the Holocaust should be present, it ought to be in Germany itself. It ought to be pushing the hardest of any country to prove the crime it was accused and convicted of committing did not actually happen. It should be fighting the hardest of all to clear its name.

But the opposite is true: Germany has consistently and publicly accepted the Holocaust and its role in it.

This is a major problem for your assertion.
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After 60 years of subjugation and laws against disputing the Holocaust Myth what would you do? If someone was holding your private parts for 60 years telling you gramps and his generation were genocidal murderers and none of your elders dared disagree is there any other option?
 
Clayton Moore said:
After 60 years of subjugation and laws against disputing the Holocaust Myth what would you do? If someone was holding your private parts for 60 years telling you gramps and his generation were genocidal murderers and none of your elders dared disagree is there any other option?
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Well, since the relevant section of German law was not passed until 1985, one option might be for you to stop lying about it.

You know, like you lied about THHP being little but lies and liars?

Or your ridiculous claim that only 500,000 Jews were killed during the Holocaust (and even if you were correct -- how does that make what happened any better?)
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Well, since the relevant section of German law was not passed until 1985, one option might be for you to stop lying about it.

You know, like you lied about THHP being little but lies and liars?

Or your ridiculous claim that only 500,000 Jews were killed during the Holocaust (and even if you were correct -- how does that make what happened any better?)
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What's that stuff?

Most of the Jewish fatalities, much less than 500,000, were caused by disease or starvation.

You did know that there were Jewish doctors at most of the alleged "Death Camps?"
 
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I didn't ask for more unsupported assertion. How did you calculate this "much less" number, and what sources did you use?

Can you document even a single lie on the THHP site?

And why did you try to claim that 1985 was 60 years ago?

BTW, what happened to Guta and Abus Strawczynski?
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You don't realize it, but yes, you did.

You claimed that the law in Germany was equivalent to "someone ... holding your private parts for 60 years."

The law was passed in 1985.

Do you see the problem now (which is that you were ignorant of the law) or do I need to use smaller words?

How did you calculate your "much less" number, and what sources did you use?

Can you document even a single lie on the THHP site?

BTW, what happened to Guta and Abus Strawczynski?
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Clayton Moore said:
After 60 years of subjugation and laws against disputing the Holocaust Myth what would you do? If someone was holding your private parts for 60 years telling you gramps and his generation were genocidal murderers and none of your elders dared disagree is there any other option?
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Except that it seems to be the Germans who are holding their own private parts.

Anyway, besides sucking up to rabbit, you might help him focus and find his way out of this months' long quandary he's gotten himself into with his boasting on OSR 24.

Can you explain the proof that this document has been manipulated--how shall I put it?--the proof "that when the OSRs were found and compiled by War Crimes they saw a problem with the Great Provocation and just moved the incident as it was reported in internal German documents to avoid problems with the Soviet version." Can you help with this claim, which, oh yes, bunny made?

You might start by explaining, since bunny has up to now failed to, how "War Crimes" made use of OSR 24.

Or is it time to introduce another distraction?
 
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LemmyCaution said:
Except that it seems to be the Germans who are holding their own private parts.

Anyway, besides sucking up to rabbit, you might help him focus and find his way out of this months' long quandary he's gotten himself into with his boasting on OSR 24.
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Mr Caution I am genuinely mystified - what months quandary? I merely said some months ago "wait until you see my case against OSR 24" What part of the word "wait" do you not understand?

Can I say, however, your wait would be considerably shorter if your Presidents did have a habit of hateful and vicious unprovoked attacks on poorer but resource rich countries. Something which, as you know, I find quite traumatic.

Happily I've turn up some thing else you might be quite interested. NO-1242

15 June 1943

Subject: special buildings in concentration camps.
To Camp Commanders of Concentration Camps
Sachsenhausen, Dachau, Neuengamme and Auschwitz

According to a communication of the Chief of the Main Office (Hauptamtschefs), it struck him, when inspecting already completed special buildings, that they were not specially favorably situated

The Chief of the Main Office has decreed that when further special buildings are erected, attention must be paid to it that they are located - according to their intended purposes - out of the way, and so cannot be gaped at by all sorts of people.
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This screams fake

http://nuremberg.law.harvard.edu/imagedir/HLSL_NMT01/HLSL_NUR_05725001.jpg

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The biggest give away is the "GEHEIM" stamp, instead of the standard "Geheimes Reichesache", lack of letter head also. Yet they seem to have gone to trouble of faking a signature. I think the Hauptamtschef is not normal usage either, I am not sure who it referred to - Pohl?

Of course we all know how marvellous those gas chambers at Neuengamme, Dachau and Sachsenhausen were. The document is forged up in trade-mark style, not openly incriminating, but really having only one possible interpretation of what "special buildings" might be.

But really it is quite dumb, Auschwitz (supposedly) had just spent 100000s of RM building four crematoria-gas chambers and now they are all completed they are supposed to move them somewhere else?

However, it does indicate the extent to which forgery took place. This document wasn't necessary, no one refers to it today (partly because its obviously pony), yet they still went ahead at falsified it despite it being superfluous to Hoax requirements.

As always I value your opinion greatly.
 
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You are obviously pony, rabbit. Get on with OSR 24 and cut out the unbecoming antics regarding American aggression and other sideshows.
 
Hehehe, it turns out Chef des SS Hauptamt was none other than our old friend Gottlob Berger - he who denied the authenticity of the Posen speech.
 
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Mr Caution I am genuinely mystified - what months quandary? I merely said some months ago "wait until you see my case against OSR 24" What part of the word "wait" do you not understand?
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I am sure one or two readers may have a sort of twisted sympathy for you, your having sawed off the particular limb you crawled out on. It's ugly to watch someone so self destructive, but it is also human to screw up as badly as you, and some people may confuse your doing this with your being nearly human.

But most of us simply have low expectations for you, and thus we have patience regarding what you can achieve.

It is just all these other "projects" of yours and your bad tangents and lying smokescreens that have us concerned for your ability to bring this off. You are on your way down from your cut-off limb and yet you're still futzing with ways to obfuscate your way out of your fatal predicament. It bemuses us as repulsive and odious a specimen as you are.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
After 60 years of subjugation and laws against disputing the Holocaust Myth what would you do? If someone was holding your private parts for 60 years telling you gramps and his generation were genocidal murderers and none of your elders dared disagree is there any other option?
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And who exactly labels an entire generation as genocidal murders. I label the Nazi leadership as well as the SS the genocidal murders but the average soldider was just trying to survive the average German civilan was just trying to survive
 
Clayton Moore said:
After 60 years of subjugation and laws against disputing the Holocaust Myth what would you do?
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If that's the extent your attempted rationalization of why Germany isn't leading the deny-the-Holocaust fight, it is truly pathetic. That's all you got? Really? It's never crossed your mind that perhaps Germans might be a little closer to the source documents and archives than you?
 
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And who exactly labels an entire generation as genocidal murders. I label the Nazi leadership as well as the SS the genocidal murders but the average soldider was just trying to survive the average German civilan was just trying to survive
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And who paid the over 50 B I L L I O N in reparations?
 
Corsair 115 said:
If that's the extent your attempted rationalization of why Germany isn't leading the deny-the-Holocaust fight, it is truly pathetic. That's all you got? Really? It's never crossed your mind that perhaps Germans might be a little closer to the source documents and archives than you?
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Who suffered the Morgenthau Plan for about 3 years after the war ended?

And over 50 B I L L I O N in reparations?
 
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