Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

[TraneWreck]

Sexting transcripts 'coming' out of the weeds, and now this.


Stick (so to speak) right in there Weiner. Your fame will be useful.

Please ask your hero Breitbart why he wanders around town with a picture of Anthony Weiner's penis.

 

[Drudgewire]

Please ask your hero Breitbart why he wanders around town with a picture of Anthony Weiner's penis.

Because heeee's... got... a...

good boy phone... and a naughty boy phone...

A good boy phone... and a naughty boy phone.


/lil Jimmy

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

This whole stinker of a thread was a giant exercise in confirmation bias for most posters.

You got that right!

Ziggurat has it exactly correct when he says "Why were so many people not just unsure of his guilt, but actually sure of his innocence? For whatever reason, many people were simply blinded. They either weren't getting good information, or weren't able to process it adequately."

Ziggurat had it exactly wrong!

You, especially, GB, for all your clamoring against speculation and for the facts, blatantly ignored my posts outlining why he wasn't hacked, as he claimed,

Yfrog closed a loophole that could have allowed anyone access to Weiner's account. Cannonfire outlined why Weiner could have been hacked.

Why would you expect me to believe your outlining why he wasn't hacked?

ostensibly because I linked to a page with an anti-Obama banner ad.

I didn't ignore your posts. I ignored the link because that blogger was a Kook.

And I have to go there based on what you posted - yes, there was DEFINITELY SOMETHING obvious before he admitted his guilt, whether you and others chose to read and comprehend the technical evidence or not.

No, there DEFINITELY wasn't ANYTHING obvious before Weiner confessed.

Whether all this is really worth caring about ... I agree it probably is not. But I enjoyed trying to come up with scenarios that explained what we knew, and what we 'speculated' and seeing how it all played out.

Me too.

GB

 

[EventHorizon]

Because heeee's... got... a...

good boy phone... and a naughty boy phone...

A good boy phone... and a naughty boy phone.


/lil Jimmy

You know, I'm listening to the replay of the show right now. Opie is trying to get himself fired. The first hour he can't stop talking about how much they all hate working for Sirius XM.

 

[Ziggurat]

Ziggurat had it exactly wrong!

No, GB. You did.

Cannonfire outlined why Weiner could have been hacked.

Cannonfire's analysis was wrong.

Why would you expect me to believe your outlining why he wasn't hacked?

That's rather the problem, isn't it? You were wrong, and you still can't figure out why you got it wrong. You should have believed him, because he was right. But you didn't. And ultimately, the answer for why you didn't believe him when you should have must come from you, not from him.

I didn't ignore your posts. I ignored the link because that blogger was a Kook.

Um... have you been paying any attention to what Cannonfire is saying now? You've misidentified who the kook here is.

This, again, is a textbook case of exactly what I'm talking about. You couldn't (and apparently still can't) distinguish which of two arguments was right and which was wrong. Was your failure because you didn't have enough supplementary information to evaluate the two arguments? Or was your failure in the evaluation process itself? I really don't know, but regardless of the cause of your failure, you still failed. And that failure should have prompted introspection, but it isn't.

Which is why it's obvious that you will be surprised again in the future, because you will have learned nothing from the present.

No, there DEFINITELY wasn't ANYTHING obvious before Weiner confessed.

Oh yes there was. The fact that it wasn't obvious to you is not a sign that it wasn't obvious, it's a sign that you missed the obvious.

 

[dudalb]

You know, I'm listening to the replay of the show right now. Opie is trying to get himself fired. The first hour he can't stop talking about how much they all hate working for Sirius XM.

That's an old,old, O and A routine, going back to broadcast days. It's pretty much shtick, and the management knows it and as long as O and A bring in the bucks they could not care less. It gives them the image of Being Against The Man, without actually doing anything that upsets The Man.
FIghting with Managment is pretty much a standard Shock Jock bit. It's only when Money is the main issue that it should be taken seriously.

 

[EventHorizon]

That's an old,old, O and A routine, going back to broadcast days. It's pretty much shtick, and the management knows it and as long as O and A bring in the bucks they could not care less. It gives them the image of Being Against The Man, without actually doing anything that upsets The Man. FIghting with Managment is pretty much a standard Shock Jock bit.

I know that but O&A don't do shtick very well. Plus:

It's only when Money is the main issue that it should be taken seriously.

Uh oh. He IS trying to get out of his contract. Damn.

 

[Gandalfs Beard]

No, GB. You did.

No Ziggy, you did.

Cannonfire's analysis was wrong.

True.

But you missed the point altogether. I had no reason to believe your analysis at the time.

That's rather the problem, isn't it? You were wrong, and you still can't figure out why you got it wrong.

I admitted I was wrong a looooooooooooooooooong time ago. Get over it.

You should have believed him, because he was right. But you didn't. And ultimately, the answer for why you didn't believe him when you should have must come from you, not from him.

Apparently you are putting the cart before the horse. Yes, he was right. But before I knew he was right (after Weiner confessed), I had no reason to believe he was right.

Um... have you been paying any attention to what Cannonfire is saying now?

No! He was wrong. End of story.

You've misidentified who the kook here is.

Actually, no, I didn't misidentify the Moonbat Blogger, who thinks Obama is a Communist, as a kook!

Just because Cannonfire is a Kook doesn't mean that I was wrong about the Obama = Commie Kook.

This, again, is a textbook case of exactly what I'm talking about. You couldn't (and apparently still can't) distinguish which of two arguments was right and which was wrong.

I admitted I was wrong a looooooooooooooooooong time ago. Get over it.

Was your failure because you didn't have enough supplementary information to evaluate the two arguments? Or was your failure in the evaluation process itself? I really don't know, but regardless of the cause of your failure, you still failed. And that failure should have prompted introspection, but it isn't.

My failure was due to the fact that Breitbart is a liar. I didn't believe him because he's cried Wolf[e] before, and by extension, I didn't believe you because you believed Breitbart. When Weiner confessed, I believed you.

I admitted I was wrong a looooooooooooooooooong time ago. Get over it.

Which is why it's obvious that you will be surprised again in the future, because you will have learned nothing from the present.

I've learned that a liar infamously known for lying didn't have to lie because, for once, he actually had the goods.

It doesn't mean I should forever believe that liar every time he comes up with a new story.

And it's obvious that you will be surprised in the future, because you will have learned nothing from the past.

Oh yes there was. The fact that it wasn't obvious to you is not a sign that it wasn't obvious, it's a sign that you missed the obvious.

The fact that it was obvious to you, is not a sign that something is actually obvious. It's a sign that you jump to conclusions because you mistake obviousness for evidence.

Finally, I admitted I was wrong a looooooooooooooooooong time ago. Get over it.

GB

 

[Neally]

Momentum building within Dems for Weiners resignation:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20070156-503544.html

 

[Cleon]

Momentum building within Dems for Weiners resignation:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20070156-503544.html

I wonder how long before CNN picks him up as an anchor/commentator.

And let's face it, there couldn't be a better name for a TV news show than "Weiner/Spitzer."

 

[A Laughing Baby]

Weiner?! I hardly know her!

 

[Drudgewire]

You know, I'm listening to the replay of the show right now. Opie is trying to get himself fired. The first hour he can't stop talking about how much they all hate working for Sirius XM.

That's been daily at least since Sirius took over and E-Lo left for the greener pastures of Oprahville. Of course, he also bragged he had "walking away money" for months leading up to their last contract renewal but wound up signing on the final day.

Bottom line is it's not Opie and Anthony if they're not battling management MAAAAAN.

 

[leftysergeant]

Momentum building within Dems for Weiners resignation:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20070156-503544.html

We need some Democrats with the backbone to stand and fight. If Pelosi weren't so foolish as to take impeachment of the table when she had a chance to make the Repiublicons lok like a bunch of war profiteers and barbarians we wouldn't have Ryan and Cantor and Agent Orange trying to pass themselves off as leaders of some sort today.

The sludge monster wants to castrate the Democratic arty. Letting that snivelling little non-man win is not going to make America any better. Weiner should stand and fight and show the rest of the party how it is done, unless, of course, he can get two sleaze-bag Republicons to leave with him, like maybe Diapers boy and that hysterical little twit Cantor.

 

[Ziggurat]

But you missed the point altogether. I had no reason to believe your analysis at the time.

Yes, actually, you did. The information was all out there. You just chose not to believe it. You chose to believe Cannonfire because you found him more credible, not because his argument was better. It wasn't.

I admitted I was wrong a looooooooooooooooooong time ago. Get over it.

This isn't about the fact that you were wrong. It's about why you were wrong. You haven't come to terms with that yet.

Apparently you are putting the cart before the horse. Yes, he was right. But before I knew he was right (after Weiner confessed), I had no reason to believe he was right.

But why not? Since he was right, and there were people who knew he was right, what is it that you missed? And why aren't you even interested in finding out? All you seem interested in is defending your ignorance. And the danger there for you is that you might succeed.

My failure was due to the fact that Breitbart is a liar. I didn't believe him because he's cried Wolf[e] before, and by extension, I didn't believe you because you believed Breitbart. When Weiner confessed, I believed you.

Once again, you didn't need to believe Breitbart to conclude that Weiner was guilty. It was quite obvious to me that he was guilty, and that conclusion had nothing to do with any confidence in Breitbart. So that doesn't explain it.

I've learned that a liar infamously known for lying didn't have to lie because, for once, he actually had the goods.

In other words, you have learned nothing which will help you determine the truth next time something like this happens.

It doesn't mean I should forever believe that liar every time he comes up with a new story.

Yet again, you didn't need to believe Breitbart. All you had to do was watch Weiner himself, and it became obvious. Why did you miss all the clues in Weiner's behavior? Were you just not paying any attention? Do you not understand human nature well enough? Or did you just refuse to believe what you didn't want to believe? Only you can answer that, but it's got nothing to do with Breitbart.

 

[WildCat]

We need some Democrats with the backbone to stand and fight.

Looks like they're dumping him like yesterday's trash. Lots of calls for Weiner to resign today from other Dems. If he doesn't resign expect his district to be written off in the remap, New York loses 2 House seats after the census.

 

[WildCat]

Apparently Weiner's wife is pregnant, probably not how she imagined it...

 

[Emet]

More Democrats Urge Weiner to Resign; Watchdog Sees Double Standard

A growing number of Democrats are joining several high-profile Republicans in calling for Rep. Anthony Weiner of New York to resign following his admission of risqué online exchanges and lying about them.
(...)
But some observers say the message to Weiner is hypocritical and politically motivated, given both public opinion polling showing that a majority of New Yorkers think Weiner should stay and the fact that Weiner has not been accused of breaking the law or convicted of violating any House rules.
(...)
Sloan explained that the mounting pressure on Weiner may stem in part from the early precedent set by House Speaker John Boehner when, at the first sign of sexual misconduct, he urged Reps. Mark Souder (R, Ind.) and Chris Lee (R, N.Y.) to resign, even though their behavior didn't appear to involve any abuse of their office.

"A lot of people really hate Weiner, too," she said, referring to Weiner's colleagues in the House, some of whom are said to have been rankled by his personality and frequent media appearances.
(...)
"I think there will be a public backlash when people start to think about what is this guy really accused of doing, and is this the most serious thing a politician has done when most people are really concerned about politicians selling their office to special interests. There's no kind of that allegation here."

In the end, should Weiner decide to stay, it will be the voters who decide his fate.

A Marist/NY1 poll found 51 percent of New Yorkers say Weiner should say in office, and only 30 percent think that he should resign.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/demo...resign-ethics-watchdog-sees/story?id=13794819

 

[Dorian Gray]

All that's left is wiener jokes and cleaning up after the party.

GB

In other words, all that's left is Santorum.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Pelosi Launches Weiner Probe Amidst Urges To Withdraw; Weiner Expected To Stick It Out

 

[Dorian Gray]

We need some Democrats with the backbone to stand and fight. If Pelosi weren't so foolish as to take impeachment of the table when she had a chance to make the Repiublicons lok like a bunch of war profiteers and barbarians we wouldn't have Ryan and Cantor and Agent Orange trying to pass themselves off as leaders of some sort today.

The sludge monster wants to castrate the Democratic arty. Letting that snivelling little non-man win is not going to make America any better. Weiner should stand and fight and show the rest of the party how it is done, unless, of course, he can get two sleaze-bag Republicons to leave with him, like maybe Diapers boy and that hysterical little twit Cantor.

Weiner should resign. Just like that shirtless Craigslist Republican resigned. Why would you insist he stay on? Don't be so partisan.