Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

JohnnyG said:
If you think this is a non-story you are suffering from a recto-cranial inversion (RCI).

If you think his "flirting" is the story your RCI is flaring up again.
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That's the source material. It's dumb. Republicans like to use people lying about dumb things to pretend like dumb stories are legitimate.

What do we have:

Weiner sends inappropriate photos to twitter followers. He's caught, he lies about it.

And...

But I love it. Let's do Clinton all over. I want to see all the handwringing and teeth-gnashing over the horrible moral decline of our society by as many Republicans as possible. Then when we learn that instead of just flirting online they've been banging prostitutes or carrying on extra-marital affairs or trying their damndest to sack-tickle a Congressional page, we can all remember that Weiner's reaction to being caught for a minor indiscretion is a reaction that would be shared by a significant percentage of humans when their dirty laundry gets aired.

You can try to turn this into a story about the cover-up, but just like Clinton, people are getting pissy about nothing. He sent inappropriate photos over the internet. OH NO!!
 
Ziggurat said:
Given that there aren't even any accusations to the contrary, I think we should assume he's telling the truth about that.
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The skeptic in me doubts if he was sending out lewd pics of himself just for the thrill of it.
 
Brainster said:
He seemed to be honest in the presser right up to the point where he claimed he never had sex outside his marriage. Skeptic alert!
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I bet either he really has never had sex outside his marriage or else everyone he has had sex with outside his marriage are now dead and can't talk. Telling a fib during your mea culpa about your earlier sins, and a fib that could be exposed, would be really dumb and risky. One might even call it Edwardsian.

He doesn't have to resign now but if it came out that he was lying during his mea culpa about never having an affair then I bet the pressure would be enough that he'd have to resign.
 
TraneWreck said:
Let me also say to Ziggurat that I was very much incorrect in dealing with the following dilemma:

1) He sent the tweet to someone he had prior contact with.
2) He sent it out at random, to people he didn't know.

I dismissed 2 because of the galactic stupidity involved in such an action. This was clearly an unwarranted assumption. Evidentally he did that with some frequency.
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I appreciate the reply. I guess the lesson is to never underestimate human capacity for stupidity when it comes to sex.
 
Ziggurat said:
I appreciate the reply. I guess the lesson is to never underestimate human capacity for stupidity when it comes to sex.
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Not knowing everything about Weiner, my guess is that the fame from his fiery floor speeches and television appearances led to a level of attention from women, especially young women, that was unprecedented in his world.

That's a powerful drug.
 
I still don't give a rat's.

He's still a better man than any of the current crop of worthless drongos the GOP fronts in the House.

And the sludge monster is even less a man than any of them.

It's between him and his wife.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Well this teaches me a lesson. I had assumed that someone got ahold of his @yfrog address. It appears to be not the case.

What a lying douchebag.
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Very few people in this thread were open to arguments that went against their existing confirmation biases; it is to your credit that you were one of those who did. And I note that you remained open to correction when new facts emerged.

I predict that several Weiner defenders posted their last comments in this thread before the press conference and will not update with an admission that they were wrong.
 
TraneWreck said:
That this was made into a story at all, however, is the fault of Breitbart and the vapid media we have to suffer with. Just because you've found dirt doesn't mean you've found a story.

The coverup was stupid, but that doesn't make the source material any more legitimate.
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It couldn't possibly be Weiners fault for engaging in sexually explicit communications with multiple young women, which I suspect his wife would consider a violation of his oath of marriage. Of course not. The fault lies with the messenger. :rolleyes:
 
I was wrong and will totally admit it. My opinion of Weiner is that he is a very effective congressman, but a terrible person. However, I will still treat any story that comes from Breitbart with appropriate skepticism.
 
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Ziggurat said:
I appreciate the reply. I guess the lesson is to never underestimate human capacity for stupidity when it comes to sex.
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I never really understood the tech side of this story, but it did seem out of character for a guy I have grown to know as John Stewart's buddy from school that made it to congress. Man, is this going to suck the next time he goes on the Daily Show . . .

Also, I am so glad that I am too old to have been of this generation of singles that send out pics of themselves. That stuff is going to burn far longer than anything I did when single.
 
JohnnyG said:
It couldn't possibly be Weiners fault for engaging in sexually explicit communications with multiple young women, which I suspect his wife would consider a violation of his oath of marriage. Of course not. The fault lies with the messenger. :rolleyes:
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No, it isn't, because that's not a story. It's an issue for the two of them.

Let's force everyone who has flirted inappropriately while married to resign from their jobs tomorrow.

Who's left?
 
Well surprise, surprise, surprise.

A week after claiming a hacker had posted a lewd photo to his Twitter account, U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner on Monday apologized for lying about the ordeal and admitting carrying on inappropriate relationships with several women he'd met online.
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/06/new.york.weiner/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The Central Scrutinizer said:
The guy's a politician. Therefore, he is prone to lying. We should start from a default position of guilty and go from there.
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People really should pay closer attention to what I say. There was never any doubt that he did it.
 
TraneWreck said:
You can try to turn this into a story about the cover-up, but just like Clinton, people are getting pissy about nothing. He sent inappropriate photos over the internet. OH NO!!
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Sorry there TW, Weiner turned it into a story about the cover-up. You can also try to turn this into a story about right-wingers, but nobody is buying that BS either. That RCI is really flaring up, must be hard to breathe.
 
So the guy sent a picture of his member to a hot woman? Woah, the man has a sex life. Outrageous.
 
TraneWreck said:
You can try to turn this into a story about the cover-up, but just like Clinton, people are getting pissy about nothing.
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Much as we may disagree over the significance of what Weiner did, this isn't the equivalent of the Clinton scandal. Clinton committed perjury. Weiner only lied. The difference matters.
 
JohnnyG said:
Sorry there TW, Weiner turned it into a story about the cover-up. You can also try to turn this into a story about right-wingers, but nobody is buying that BS either. That RCI is really flaring up, must be hard to breathe.
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Weiner has no control over the way the press and our country treats the incident.

It's a no-win situation on the Clinton model:

1) Force someone to answer embarassing questions.
2) If they fess to it, throw tantrum, worry about the kids.
3) If they deny it and it turns out to be true, throw tantrum, crocodile tears about the children, but now ignore whatever started the story and just whine about lying.

At least with Clinton they managed to complain about the blow job for a couple years before resorting to the "he lied, he lied," wailing. The fact that all you're talking about is the cover-up is excellent proof that the underlying issue is worthless. Prosecutors go after lies when the rest of their case has unraveled, no different here.

Scooter Libby lied about his role in outing Valerie Plame. The lie was all he could be prosecuted for, but the underlying issue was extremely important. When discussing Scooter Libby, the perjury or obstruction conviction is not what I'm upset about, it's the actual act of outing a CIA agent.
 
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