legalize unpasteurized milk

[Emet]

Does the USDA have any involvement?

I'm not sure:

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) share primary responsibility for overseeing the safety of the U.S. food supply. In addition, all states have their own laws, regulations and agencies dedicated to food safety.
(...)
In many cases, the food safety functions of the FDA and USDA overlap; particularly inspection/enforcement, training, research, and rulemaking, for both domestic and imported food. Both USDA and FDA currently conduct similar inspections at some 1,500 dual jurisdiction establishments -- facilities that produce foods regulated by both agencies.

More here.

And why is it that I can buy eggs from a neighbor who has a flock of chickens in their backyard, but I wouldn't be able to buy raw milk from them if they had a couple cows? Or does the government only notice if it becomes more than neighbors selling to neighbors?

Don't know if that's legal. But most people eat cooked eggs (I'm aware of the exceptions). Raw milk is produced to be consumed as is.

New regulations giving the FDA the authority to inspect large commercial egg farms took effect on July 9, 2010. Prior to this rule, FDA inspected egg farms under its broad authorities applicable to all food, focusing on farms already linked to recalls. Apparently, the new rule did not take effect soon enough to allow for proactive inspections by the FDA of the egg farms involved in the August 2010 recall of nearly half a billion eggs for salmonella contamination.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

ok apparently its legal to sell, snort, eat, drink in some states.. its a federal crime to sell interstate.. this is such a great example of some lobbying industry paying lip service to regulaters.

its obvious this forum is filled with CFR /NWO shills.. defending corrupt government actions to the teeth. in California its completly legal, but CA farmers are prohibited from selling to Nevada and Oregon consumers.. talk about the fed gov. hurting small business.. geez

if this went up for a vote on the congress floor, how could representatives from CA vote NO and undermine local farmers business opportunities. the FDA is evil

CFR? I'm a member of the NWO, do they reciprocate with the CFR? Can I use the CFR sauna when ours is down?

 

[EventHorizon]

How out of touch with reality do you have to be to think that the Illuminati and the NWO exist? I think that some people think they actually live in a movie.

 

[JohnG]

this thread didnt even start out as a conspiracy.. someone called it was boring so i had to spice it up a notch, dvictr style

Real life isn't "spicy" enough for you?

 

[Arisia]

#1- You should have been watching the Sox game, not posting on here!!

#2- It's when they bring it across state lines that it really becomes a problem, or when you start doing large scale production.

I have been buying chicken eggs from my neighbor for years. But, it's a couple dozen here, couple dozen there. Nothing large scale.

Fresh eggs certainly are great though.

1. I live in Red Sox Nation, but I'm not of Red Sox Nation (shhh, don't tell anyone in my neighborhood)
2. Yeah, I figure it has to do with the scale of the operation more than anything.

Yeah, the fresh eggs are nice. And having grown up with dairying aunts and uncles, I know that raw milk can be really nice, too.

 

[dvictr]

CFR? I'm a member of the NWO, do they reciprocate with the CFR? Can I use the CFR sauna when ours is down?

theres a mixer-pot luck dinner with the girls from the CIA/ Mossad chapters. i know because i was dating one a few months back and she never logged off her facebook. she told me all about the hallow moon command center, and the software update to the HAARP infrastructure.

 

[dvictr]

mods delete thread 14, 20 and everything after 33

move back to politics the OP links to an article about a bill in congress... the real discussion is valid the CT is cute so may consider split

 

[AnnoyingPony]

 

[Kid Eager]

I have it on good authority that pasteurised is best, but I'd be happy if it came up to my chest...

 

[drewid]

You got Ernie in Oz???

And I have to say Stilton made from unpasteurised milk is Cheese #1. mmmmm.

 

[Travis]

What kind of nutbag even wants to consume raw milk? Do they also consume raw pork?

 

[KingMerv00]

What kind of nutbag even wants to consume raw milk? Do they also consume raw pork?

I demand I have the right to sprint face first into a lathe!

 

[Travis]

You should team up with the group that fights for the right to play chicken with trains.

 

[leftysergeant]

the industry introduced the pasteurization process to contaminate the human population with precursors to conditons like autism and predisposition to H5N1.

Dude! Read more often and you will post less balderdash. They don't add stuff to pasteurized milk. They HEAT IT. Can you grasp that concept? The only chemical change from organic raw milk to pasteurized organic milk is that the protiens in the bacteria and viri are denatured.

Louis Pasteur was an illuminati warlord thst may have been a modern day father to the NWO. it is rummored that during a visit to egyptians ruin in Cairo egypt he discovered ancient astronaut golden templates that instructed him on the secret forumula to milk processing.

Is this a Poe? Is it all a big spoof on CT whacktardism or did somebody put his tinfoil on with the dull side out?

 

[leftysergeant]

But most people eat cooked eggs (I'm aware of the exceptions). Raw milk is produced to be consumed as is.

You can wash crap off the outside of an egg.

Try washing it out of a truckload of milk.

 

[whatthebutlersaw]

The "raw milk" movement is full of woo and potentially dangerous. I have no objection to the Government regulating its sale.

This. ^

I belong to the non-farmer arm of a dairy farming family and I spent all my summer holidays with my cousins on a dairy farm. (Which was a lot more fun and exotic for me than it was for them.) While I don't pretend to understand microbiology, veterinary science or biochemistry I do know that the unpasteurized milk is not superior in any way. It doesn't even taste nicer and it comes with a slew of potential health risks. Some of which are really nasty. Which was why my uncles would not let me - or my cousins, but they didn't really want it - have milk straight from milking but made me wait for the pasteurizer they had for their own need. (Basically, a tank truck came along every day and hauled the milk to be sold to the dairies and the dairy pasteurized it in the plant. But the farm pasteurized its own, in a small contraption, for household needs. My cousins, however, prefered "store bought" skim milk from cartons. )

The only way to control for the nasties is pasteurisiation. Because no matter how hygenic your production line is, your product comes out of the body of a living being.

Un-homogenized, on the other hand, tastes a whole heck of a lot better imo and I'm glad to see that many UK stores have started to stock at least one un-homogenized brand.


(In case you wonder how I know it doesn't taste nicer when my uncles wouldn't let me have it: do you guys always do what your uncles tell you?)

 

[Kid Eager]

I'm sure if dvictr searched for "Chodorov" on this forum he'd find more than enough on raw milk...

 

[Travis]

To echo Calvin & Hobbes I sometimes wonder about the first guy or gal, way back when, that decided cattle would supply humans with milk.

 

[dafydd]

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/05/a-raw-political-fight-ron-paul-battles-the-fd



the federal goverment considers raw milk an illegal substance just like heroin and marijuana.

"help please i need the nanny state to make laws to protect me from dangerous animal by products "

LMAO.. how is this FDA decision legal? the big issue here is how it relates to other natural substances people want to consume

Pasteurized for me. Have you ever met some one suffering from brucellosis?

 

[triforcharity]

1. I live in Red Sox Nation, but I'm not of Red Sox Nation (shhh, don't tell anyone in my neighborhood)

(I won't tell anyone, but your NWO paycheck might be a little light this week.)

2. Yeah, I figure it has to do with the scale of the operation more than anything.

Yeah, that would be my guess also.

Yeah, the fresh eggs are nice. And having grown up with dairying aunts and uncles, I know that raw milk can be really nice, too.

I've never had raw milk. I think it's because i've never lived on a farm.